Why was there a women's march?

DangerousK

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I simply cannot understand this mentality. I'm 35 years old and the world has changed immeasurably around me in my own lifetime.

10 years ago I'd never heard the term transgender

30 years ago gay people were nigh on lepers

50 years ago gay people were committing a criminal offence in the UK

60 years ago America was segregating black people

100 years ago women weren't allowed to vote

150 years ago there was still slavery in the US

This is just off the top of my head changes, I'm forgetting countless important milestones.

Things do change, and they change FAST. Not just on a local level, but on a national and global level.

This is the problem with most of the Republican voter base, though not all.

The world has changed at an incredibly rapid pace over the last 30 years, and they frankly have been unable to deal with the change. Humans generally don't handle change well period. Even if it's not great, people like when things are static because it feels safe, and it gives them a sense of knowing how things go. The Republican core base wants things to go back to what they remember being good even if it wasn't in reality as good as they remember. It has to do with their aversion to change. In particular change they have no control over as it pertains to education, work, finances, and societal issues (homosexuality, less punitive measures for minor criminal offenses, marijuana, transgender, etc. and actually you could even throw slavery in there if you want to really widen the date ranges) that have really accelerated over the last three decades. Who is to blame for this is irrelevant, as I feel the real way to reach these people is to try and figure out a way to help them adapt to all of this. My thought is they grew up in regions where things remained the same for generations, and the pace of life was not ever what it was in places like the Northeast USA where I live.

So imagine when the way of life of a region that is in overdrive finally makes it to where they are? The jobs go, and then everything else follows along with it all in one seemingly swift stroke. Now they are trapped in a vicious cycle that only some get out of. People handle change best when it's very gradual, and don't even notice it. They handle it far worse when change comes with the flip of a light switch. One day everything is comfortable, and the next day the bottom has been pulled out. No wonder they voted for Trump, he represents the world as they knew it when they were comfortable.
 

StevenK

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This is the problem with most of the Republican voter base, though not all.

The world has changed at an incredibly rapid pace over the last 30 years, and they frankly have been unable to deal with the change. Humans generally don't handle change well period. Even if it's not great, people like when things are static because it feels safe, and it gives them a sense of knowing how things go. The Republican core base wants things to go back to what they remember being good even if it wasn't in reality as good as they remember. It has to do with their aversion to change. In particular change they have no control over as it pertains to education, work, finances, and societal issues (homosexuality, less punitive measures for minor criminal offenses, marijuana, transgender, etc. and actually you could even throw slavery in there if you want to really widen the date ranges) that have really accelerated over the last three decades. Who is to blame for this is irrelevant, as I feel the real way to reach these people is to try and figure out a way to help them adapt to all of this. My thought is they grew up in regions where things remained the same for generations, and the pace of life was not ever what it was in places like the Northeast USA where I live.

So imagine when the way of life of a region that is in overdrive finally makes it to where they are? The jobs go, and then everything else follows along with it all in one seemingly swift stroke. Now they are trapped in a vicious cycle that only some get out of. People handle change best when it's very gradual, and don't even notice it. They handle it far worse when change comes with the flip of a light switch. One day everything is comfortable, and the next day the bottom has been pulled out. No wonder they voted for Trump, he represents the world as they knew it when they were comfortable.

Agree 100%

See: Brexit
 

evil wasabi

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In 1952 the UK gave Alan Turing the option of a prison sentence or chemical castration. He died a few years after accepting castration. He was 41.

I point this out because if you're anti gay, like seriously okay with making life harder for gay people, and you're using a computer or any device that was developed through computer science, then you're a hypocrit and a dinosaur.
 

Taiso

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What about being anti-ghey? Is that still on the table?
 

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In 1952 the UK gave Alan Turing the option of a prison sentence or chemical castration. He died a few years after accepting castration. He was 41.

I point this out because if you're anti gay, like seriously okay with making life harder for gay people, and you're using a computer or any device that was developed through computer science, then you're a hypocrit and a dinosaur.

His is one of the saddest stories I've come across. a true innovator, father of modern computing, code breaker, and hero. But destroyed mentally, physically, and emotionally simply because of who he was. They issued a pardon in 2013 for him. About 60 years too late.
 

RyoGeo

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I tend to focus on one obsession at a time, and Neo Geo has been out of the rotation for a lot of years. Between more modern video games, comic books, classic toys, soccer, books, reddit, kids, wife, vacations, and work, I just haven't been on the site much.

For a while, my account was actually locked because I had forgotten my PW, and the account was attached to an email address to which I no longer had access. :shame:

Wasabi helped me with that a while back.

Now I'm here typing about government for some strange reason. Oh, that and I'd like to find a reasonably priced Soccer Brawl on MVS, 'cuz it looks really fun and it's one of the few MVS carts I don't have.
 

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One of my fav memes:

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xROTx

PS. Short attention span...:keke:

[P|M]aternity, Education, Healthcare aren't entitlements, they're investments, since its the Middle Class that drives a consumer driven economy.

And, giving women education, and power over their reproductive systems, results in less unwanted children, saving money in the long run.

(And yes Filthyrear I was an unplanned child.)

Edit: Though smoke is right, the feminist movement should revoke Madonna's girl power card.
 
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HDRchampion

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In 1952 the UK gave Alan Turing the option of a prison sentence or chemical castration. He died a few years after accepting castration. He was 41.

I point this out because if you're anti gay, like seriously okay with making life harder for gay people, and you're using a computer or any device that was developed through computer science, then you're a hypocrit and a dinosaur.

i watched the movie...Should have went to jail to get the free cawk as a reward instead. Didn't he die from suicide not from the dick punches.
 

Hippo

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I bring it up because we have a lot of members here who have hate in their hearts.

The truth and such a shame who knew Neo-Geo is loved by so many stormfront members. Back in 05 shit was bad. But not nearly as angry
as this place has become.
 

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The truth and such a shame who knew Neo-Geo is loved by so many stormfront members. Back in 05 shit was bad. But not nearly as angry
as this place has become.

Just goes to show if you have a different opinion, your wrong.
 

Jibbajaba

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And, giving women education, and power over their reproductive systems, results in less unwanted children, saving money in the long run.

(And yes Filthyrear I was an unplanned child.)

Unplanned child and unwanted adult.
 

ki_atsushi

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New, educated, humans from a country's citizenry, to perpetuate said country's viability should be a priority. Ask Japan how a lack of newborns is working out for them. They're kinda' fucked right now. Too many "waifu" pillows out there. A healthy, moderately reproducing middle class is the base driver for an economy; or at least it will be until such time as everything is automated, which probably isn't all that far off. BUT, you raise a good point. Why should an employer pay for that? It comes down to how a government chooses to manage its population base.

A country NEEDS replacement humans. It just does. So, how does a country enable proper (read, educated) human production, without being onerous to employers? A country needs to make such production viable for both the producer (the literal woman, at minimum), and the employer of said producer. The rest of the industrialized world has decided the person/persons that have just produced a new human need an extended period of time in order to initiate the rearing process properly, such that said country is not being repopulated by TV reared fuckwits. So how do these countries do it?

In Germany, for the first 18 months (yes EIGHTEEN), a parent can draw close to 70% (I've seen numbers between 64-67%) of their salary to stay home and actually engage in the raising of their replacement. The employer is not burdened with this cost directly. It is a government funded benefit. So yeah, it comes from the tax base. "What kinda' commie bullshit is that! We're payin' people to be lazy!" Well, that's one take. The other take is that the country has chosen to invest in future taxpayers. Generally, people that have a better start to their lives end up better earners, and thus pay more taxes in the future. Really, it's just an R&D cost. Is Germany going bankrupt? No. If memory serves, I believe they are the biggest economy in Europe. So, what are Germany's tax brackets? Here are the top two tax brackets for Germans in Euros.

Filing single:
52,154 - 250 000: 42 %
250,001 and over: 45%

Filing jointly:
104,305 - 500,000: 42%
500,001 and over: 45%

"Holy fuck!" you say. WAY too high tax. Well, yes and no. The question is, how much of your personal money are you spending on things that would otherwise be covered. Let's go back to (my prior post) Healthcare. How much do you pay for insurance? Maybe $0 if you have a SMOKING plan at work, but now your employer is burdened with that cost (More commie bullshit!). If you have a family, how much do you dependents cost? Now, if you actually need to use your insurance, what's that set you back? On and on. In Germany, there are some co-pays for care, and that's it. No premiums, no pre-existing conditions bullshit (we'll see where the Annoying Orange lands on that one, when he actually has to commit to a policy), no fuss. You need care, you get care. Are you going to go bankrupt because you got cancer? No. Is that better for society that you don't go bankrupt? Yes. Is it better for the country's GDP, yes. In Germany's model, the nation's working parts (humans) are able to repair themselves, and your newly manufactured replacement parts (little humans) are provided with a good start by their functional and healthy manufacturers.

Healthcare is just one of many examples. There are services that make sense to be socialized, and services that don't. For all the hard line right wingers screaming and moaning about "Socialism," how many of them do you think would vote to abolish Medicare? That's a socialist platform for healthcare, period. "Oh, but wait, I'm old, and conservative, and the TV told me socialism is bad, but not Medicare that's fine." And why? Because it makes fucking sense for a civilized society to care for the elderly. In fact, of all the socialist programs one might support, Medicare makes the LEAST amount of financial sense, because these old fucks aren't earning ANYTHING!!! Lazy bastards, leaching off the system. It'd be more economical to just shoot'em and save the dough. But we don't do that, because we aren't fucking animals. So, why do we care for our retired, but not for the producing class. THAT actually makes zero financial sense. I'm off on a Healthcare jag again.

Bottom line, there really are things a nation should pay for in its own self interests, to take advantage of an economy of scale and negotiating position, but too many have been taught that it's better to expect that they too will be a millionaire, and that once they have it, they need to guard against the government taking it all.

Excellent post, you made some really good points!
 
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