CRT Fetish Thread

[ChopstickSamurai]

I have the audio out on my Bainbridge SCART switchbox running into an old Sony receiver I picked up at the thrift store. Got a pair of bookshelf speakers on sale from Amazon, and I will never go back to that tinny sounding built-in speaker on my PVM.

The speakers are made by Micca which isn't a brand I was aware of. But they had good reviews on Amazon, and I figured what the heck for $50. Figured I could return them if they sucked. I think they sound great for a pair of $50 speakers.

 

[grendelrt]

I have the audio out on my Bainbridge SCART switchbox running into an old Sony receiver I picked up at the thrift store. Got a pair of bookshelf speakers on sale from Amazon, and I will never go back to that tinny sounding built-in speaker on my PVM.

The speakers are made by Micca which isn't a brand I was aware of. But they had good reviews on Amazon, and I figured what the heck for $50. Figured I could return them if they sucked. I think they sound great for a pair of $50 speakers.

Yeah the PVM speakers that came with mine werent bad except they had 0 bass. I used a old set of computer speakers with a sub and its been a vast improvement in sound. There are tons of speaker sets on amazon for 30-40 bucks brand new that have a small powered sub that would work.

 

[Pasky]

I was told by Skips that using the internal speakers on the professional monitors is a bad idea anyways as the sound can interfere with the picture. This may also be why the bass is 0 (don't want to shake the yolk in those things). So it's probably best to use external speakers even if the internals are fine.

 

[2050-Z]

Lovely! There are two of these on etsy right now.

Zenith Space Command Color Television

https://www.etsy.com/listing/197966152/awesome-vintage-zenith-space-command
https://www.etsy.com/listing/197974325/awesome-vintage-zenith-space-command

 

[K-2]

I just got this comment on one of my old videos on the BVM-20F1:

John Steele
6 hours ago
Frankly, I would not want this monitor for old-school gaming. In the close-up shots you can see how big and obvious the gaps between scanlines are; I might as well use my LCD monitor with the terrible scanline filter available on most emulators. Like an article on Tested explains (I won't link to it because YouTube seems to delete my comments when I put links in them), a cheaper CRT TV would have more blooming of the scanlines, making the image look seamless. Unless someone can tell me it comes with a dial or setting to defocus (for lack of a better term) the scanlines?
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K-2
56 minutes ago
HahahahhahahahahahahhaHhahahHHHhHHHHhHAaaaa!!!

 

[BanishingFlatsAC]

lololol

 

[Ragnorok64]

Go with euro scart cables all around, much easier to find than JP spec RGB21 cables. Plus I'd think the scart selector would be expecting euro wiring. usually JP21 only comes into play with XRGB units.

This touches on something I've been wondering. I have a Super Famicom and US SNES do wouldn't I need to get a SCART cable wired to connect to an NTSC SF/SNES? If I do how much else would have to change in my potential setup? Could I still use a regular SCART switch and splitter?

 

[coreykun667]

Got my PVM today and hooked it up to my Sega Saturn via S-Video. I plan on getting RGB stuff later. I'm kinda broke for now.

 

[Yodd]

This touches on something I've been wondering. I have a Super Famicom and US SNES do wouldn't I need to get a SCART cable wired to connect to an NTSC SF/SNES? If I do how much else would have to change in my potential setup? Could I still use a regular SCART switch and splitter?

I am not sure I understand what you are asking, but it sounds like you are asking if you can use the same cables between the two consoles.

And the answer is yes, they can both use the same cable providing it was built with NTSC machines in mind.

And Euro scart switches and JP21 are wired differently and cannot be used with the other. If you have a Euro scart switch, go with all Euro wired cabling.

 

[theMot]

I just got this comment on one of my old videos on the BVM-20F1:

John Steele
6 hours ago
Frankly, I would not want this monitor for old-school gaming. In the close-up shots you can see how big and obvious the gaps between scanlines are; I might as well use my LCD monitor with the terrible scanline filter available on most emulators. Like an article on Tested explains (I won't link to it because YouTube seems to delete my comments when I put links in them), a cheaper CRT TV would have more blooming of the scanlines, making the image look seamless. Unless someone can tell me it comes with a dial or setting to defocus (for lack of a better term) the scanlines?
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K-2
56 minutes ago
HahahahhahahahahahahhaHhahahHHHhHHHHhHAaaaa!!!

John Steele? Sounds like a porn name.

 

[coreykun667]

So what's the amount of lemon units people get with Bandridge switchers? I heard something about the 5v connection. I'm curious if I should buy one or just wait and save up for that handmade one over at Assemblergames...

 

[Ragnorok64]

I am not sure I understand what you are asking, but it sounds like you are asking if you can use the same cables between the two consoles.

And the answer is yes, they can both use the same cable providing it was built with NTSC machines in mind.

And Euro scart switches and JP21 are wired differently and cannot be used with the other. If you have a Euro scart switch, go with all Euro wired cabling.

Crap. I'm not even sure I understand what I'm asking. What I'm thinking of doing is taking SCART from the SF/SNES, running it into a SCART switch like this , then running a SCART to BNC RGB cable out of the switch. So if I use an NTSC SCART cable out of the SF/SNES I assume that screws up everything down the line if it was designed with PAL in mind?

 

[Yodd]

Crap. I'm not even sure I understand what I'm asking. What I'm thinking of doing is taking SCART from the SF/SNES, running it into a SCART switch like this , then running a SCART to BNC RGB cable out of the switch. So if I use an NTSC SCART cable out of the SF/SNES I assume that screws up everything down the line if it was designed with PAL in mind?

The switch doesn't care if what hooked up to it is pal or NTSC. It just matters if things are wired to the euro scart spec.

Just make sure the euro scart snes/sfc cable you buy is wired for a NTSC machine. NTSC snes requires caps in the cable where as pal snes requires resistors.

 

[Ragnorok64]

The switch doesn't care if what hooked up to it is pal or NTSC. It just matters if things are wired to the euro scart spec.

Just make sure the euro scart snes/sfc cable you buy is wired for a NTSC machine. NTSC snes requires caps in the cable where as pal snes requires resistors.

OK, it's starting to come together now. I believe i was interchanging EuroSCART and PAL in my head.

 

[MtothaJ]

Thats a well matched set!
What kind of inputs does this TV have?

 

[MtothaJ]

I was told by Skips that using the internal speakers on the professional monitors is a bad idea anyways as the sound can interfere with the picture. This may also be why the bass is 0 (don't want to shake the yolk in those things). So it's probably best to use external speakers even if the internals are fine.

The main problem is that for those PVM / BVM's which have a speaker built in it is just a single mono unit. Given that most systems output stereo sound and not all games give the option to change from stereo to mono by hooking up e.g. just the left channel you will end up hearing only a part of the action. Other option is to get / build some sort of simple stereo to mono mixer but ultimately getting a cheap set of external stereo speakers is a better idea all around.

 

[MtothaJ]

I just got this comment on one of my old videos on the BVM-20F1:
Frankly, I would not want this monitor for old-school gaming. In the close-up shots you can see how big and obvious the gaps between scanlines are; I might as well use my LCD monitor with the terrible scanline filter available on most emulators. Like an article on Tested explains (I won't link to it because YouTube seems to delete my comments when I put links in them), a cheaper CRT TV would have more blooming of the scanlines, making the image look seamless. Unless someone can tell me it comes with a dial or setting to defocus (for lack of a better term) the scanlines?

It horses for courses. Some people love profound scanlines, for others they are an unnecessary limitation / byproduct of the technology.
In countries where RGB via Scart is readily available on standard consumer TV's these offer a good middle ground - sharp but at the same time seamless image with scanlines.

 

[joe8]

It horses for courses. Some people love profound scanlines, for others they are an unnecessary limitation / byproduct of the technology.
In countries where RGB via Scart is readily available on standard consumer TV's these offer a good middle ground - sharp but at the same time seamless image with scanlines.

Scanlines can soften the blocky pixels of RGB oan old low-res console. So I wouldn't necessarily say it's a limitation. Plus, it looks the way the arcade looks.

Got my PVM today and hooked it up to my Sega Saturn via S-Video. I plan on getting RGB stuff later. I'm kinda broke for now.

How many inches is that PVM- 14"?. Why are you running s-video instead of RGB on a PVM? It should be RGB, or nothing at all. Don't some of the newer PVMs (like the one you've got) have component connections?

 

[Skips]

Scanlines can soften the blocky pixels of RGB oan old low-res console. So I wouldn't necessarily say it's a limitation. Plus, it looks the way the arcade looks.


How many inches is that PVM- 14"?. Why are you running s-video instead of RGB on a PVM? It should be RGB, or nothing at all. Don't some of the newer PVMs (like the one you've got) have component connections?

Um because he just said he didnt have the money? RGB cables cost money and if you are broke (which he said he was) you aren't exactly going to be able to afford them.

 

[coreykun667]

How many inches is that PVM- 14"?. Why are you running s-video instead of RGB on a PVM? It should be RGB, or nothing at all. Don't some of the newer PVMs (like the one you've got) have component connections?

It's a 13 inch manufactured in September 1995, and yep it has component. As for why I'm only running S-Video, I don't have all the RGB stuff yet. I definitely plan on getting RGB hookups for it when I get some money gathered up. I really want that RGB, but I could only afford the monitor for now.

 

[Psxed]

If you have some basic soldering experience the bnc to female scart isn't so hard (and expensive) to make. I bought a female scart connector and 4 bnc connectors and stripped a PS2 av cable into 6 pieces, used 4 cables for the scart connector to 4 bnc connectors and 2 cables with the tulip connector left on for the L/R audio connection. That cost me like 8$ and an hour of my time.

 

[MtothaJ]

If you have some basic soldering experience the bnc to female scart isn't so hard (and expensive) to make. I bought a female scart connector and 4 bnc connectors and stripped a PS2 av cable into 6 pieces, used 4 cables for the scart connector to 4 bnc connectors and 2 cables with the tulip connector left on for the L/R audio connection. That cost me like 8$ and an hour of my time.

One still needs the proper scart cables for the actual consoles to plug into that female scart adapter / scart switch box / whatever and since the scart cables were never officially offered in the US getting them there is more of a cost / hassle than in Europe.
Obviously, much like with the monitor hook up one can also make their own cables for the consoles, although all things considered getting ready made ones might be the better choice.

 

[Psxed]

One still needs the proper scart cables for the actual consoles to plug into that female scart adapter / scart switch box / whatever and since the scart cables were never officially offered in the US getting them there is more of a cost / hassle than in Europe.
Obviously, much like with the monitor hook up one can also make their own cables for the consoles, although all things considered getting ready made ones might be the better choice.

Yeah you're right and i did know about that part. But atleast you save a few dollars so you can buy a scart cable for one of your consoles.

 

[Yodd]

Why are you running s-video instead of RGB on a PVM? It should be RGB, or nothing at all.

I swear to god you are just fucking stupid.

You really need to stay out of this thread, and preferably off these forums.

 

[xsq]

I swear to god you are just fucking stupid.

You really need to stay out of this thread, and preferably off these forums.

qft.