What console were you most disappointed with?

[SouthtownKid]

Again, you are a dumbass. Why are we only talking about launch titles?

Because that was what I was talking about in the post YOU quoted, where I was responding to what YOU posted about the N64 launch. Idiot.

Its funny, because you guys expect everything nintendo does to be the coming of Christ.

That's because we grew up with Nintendo back when they used to be great. You grew up with the shitty Nintendo, so your frame of reference is completely different.

Myself and other members have listed plenty of A+ titles for the system.

No. You and other members have listed plenty of games you claim are "A+ titles." Big difference.

 

[smokehouse]

I highly doubt you played many of these at all.

It seems clear that you weren't playing the N64 in the 90s. What did you do? But one on ebay years later? Play it on the emulator?

If you had a N64 in its prime, you wouldn't have really thought it was disappointment.

Well...you seem to know me quite well or so you think...

I mentioned earlier that I rented/borrowed one from time to time to play current titles in hopes I'd find something worth buying the system for. I never fully gave up on the N64...it wasn't like I played it in 1669, returned it and never tried it again until 2001...

Back then...I played games with my buddies constantly...the only system I neglected was the Saturn...that's why I never run my mouth about it, I simply know nothing of it. The N64 however, I do know quite a bit about...how many more time do I have to mention I am a Nintendo fanboy?


I have played many of those titles listed...actually one of the worst on the list is Legend of Mystical Ninja 64...to actually list that as a good title is plain absurd...like I also said..most of those title are fluff garbage and to list those as the crowned jewels only proves how sad the console really was...

 

[T.A.P.]

The N64 has greatly-benefited from emulation.

There's a lot of plugins for it that tweak the graphics and resolution.

They actually make the games look pretty damn respectable even by modern standards.

Definitely. I was blown away by how good some of the games looked when I booted them up.

 

[smokehouse]

exactly, these guys are nuts. anyway, I am done posting since Desperate Housewives is on.

Besides, I dont really care to keep addressing STK's insults when he clearly has no idea what he is talking about.

Keep skipping past my stuff douchebag...I keep point out valid things and you keep ignoring them...

 

[SonGohan]

that is completely wrong. those things dont make a system great. Great games make a system great. who cares who developed them? In my opinion, nintendo's first party titles alone were strong enough to carry the system.

I mean, SNK fucking carried the Neo Geo. With a few notable exceptions, most 3rd party neo geo games SUCK. SUCK.

So by your logic, does the fact that the majority of great neo geo games were developed by snk mean that the neo geo was not a great platform?

I find it hard to believe you even went to college with your terrible, terrible reading comprehension. You don't have to care about who made what, until they aren't making it for your system. Great games make a system great, and Nintendo lost a shitload of potential great games because a number of reasons I listed above that you stated you didn't care about.

Your Neo Geo analogy doesn't apply because they didn't set a precedence with leading the industry in console sales and third party support. Don't forget what this topic is about. If you really want to draw a more accurate analogy, then you could say the Neo Geo Hyper 64 system was a huge disappointment coming from their MVS hardware.

 

[terry.330]

I'm still amazed at how terrible the PCFX was.

I'd compare the PC Engine/Duo library to the NES and SNES but eventually with animated cut scenes and CD quality audio.

Then NEC goes and follows all that goodness up with a system that falls somewhere between the CDi and Jaguar.

 

[T.A.P.]

Why did the Hyper do so bad? It seemed pretty fun the one time I played it.

 

[J. Max]

Most of those games a fluff at best...and some of the suck a fat one completely...

Are you kidding me? Most of those games were great - when they came out. Neither the N64 or PSOne 3D games have aged well, however.

 

[J. Max]

Why did the Hyper do so bad? It seemed pretty fun the one time I played it.

It didn't do badly at all. It didn't have many games on it, which is fairly typical for arcade hardware...

 

[Metal Slugnuts]

I wonder if this thing will surpass that shockboxes thread I started in general.

Of course it will...no one actually plays their cabs anymore.

 

[SouthtownKid]

It didn't do badly at all.

You mean besides the fact that it completely flopped?

 

[OrochiEddie]

I'm still amazed at how terrible the PCFX was.

I'd compare the PC Engine/Duo library to the NES and SNES but eventually with animated cut scenes and CD quality audio.

Then NEC goes and follows all that goodness up with a system that falls somewhere between the CDi and Jaguar.

The PCFX more or less became a sess pool for porn and mah jong

 

[T.A.P.]

The PCFX more or less became a sess pool for porn and mah jong

What about Mah Jong porn? I'm a busy man, and I don't have time to play two games.

 

[OrochiEddie]

What about Mah Jong porn? I'm a busy man, and I don't have time to play two games.

plenty of that too

 

[HeartlessNinny]

lol, you dumbass, you are just making stuff up now. Where are you getting this info? I am a huge KOF fan and have them all (the snk ones) on homecart only...no shitty psx ports for me, thanks.



Again, you are a dumbass. Why are we only talking about launch titles? Is a system defined entirely by it's launch? You are really digging for material.

And honestly, no one who spent 5 minutes w/ exitebike would trash it. honestly, how many n64 games have you even played? And trashing mario kart 64? honestly, you must not have any friends and never played it multiplayer.



you are just reading what you want to. Myself and other members have listed plenty of A+ titles for the system.

Its funny, because you guys expect everything nintendo does to be the coming of Christ. Then, when they dont revolutionize the industry, you fags take it as a personal insult.

I like how STK countered your bullshit with logic and reason and your best response is, "lol ur retardud"

 

[cannonball]

None. I've enjoyed all the consoles I've had over the years (although I barely remember the Atari. I was pretty young. If I had to pick one I guess I'd say the Wii, but even that has a half dozen or so games I really enjoyed.

I probably played the NES, SNES, and N64 the most out of any console I've owned. Those were heavy gaming years.

 

[neo_mao]

Keep skipping past my stuff douchebag...I keep point out valid things and you keep ignoring them...

I am not ignoring you, i didn't respond because you guys keep making the same argument that nintendo didnt release as many great titles as the psx or the snes or whatever other console, therefore it was a disappointment....and that argument is retarded.

Once you start making some good points worth discussing, then I will respond.

Also, are you seriously calling me a "douchebag"? Given the topics you've posted in the past, I really think you should twice before calling me a douchebag, buddy...

I find it hard to believe you even went to college with your terrible, terrible reading comprehension. You don't have to care about who made what, until they aren't making it for your system. Great games make a system great, and Nintendo lost a shitload of potential great games because a number of reasons I listed above that you stated you didn't care about.

Your Neo Geo analogy doesn't apply because they didn't set a precede nce with leading the industry in console sales and third party support. Don't forget what this topic is about. If you really want to draw a more accurate analogy, then you could say the Neo Geo Hyper 64 system was a huge disappointment coming from their MVS hardware.

My analogy makes perfect sense. To take it one step further, by your logic...we can say the psx sucked because Sega only released Virtua Fighter and Panzer Dragoon and other classics only on the Saturn...therefore the psx sucked since it missed out on a couple of great exclusive titles....

I mean seriously, do you now see how retarded your logic is?

I find it funny you guys are questioning my reading comprehension when you are the ones completely missing the point. I am not arguing that all the best games were on n64 or that even the n64 was the best system of that generation. I am simply saying that because there were some great games on the system that I had alot of fun playing, I do not consider it to be a disappointment.

Do you understand? I cannot break it down any simpler than that...so if you still dont get it, then I dont really know what else to say...

Oh and btw...lol at you questioning my educational background. I sure did go to college...one of the best in the country, and graduated cum laude as well...so

I like how STK countered your bullshit with logic and reason and your best response is, "lol ur retardud"

STK used no logic or reasoning. He simply started making bullshit assumptions...all of which were wrong.

I find it amazing how butt-hurt you guys are getting over this stuff. Nintendo should be commended as they have done a real number on you. This would be a great case study for a marketing class in business school.

 

[SouthtownKid]

Fuck, is Desperate Housewives over already?

I am not ignoring you, i didn't respond because you guys keep making the same argument that nintendo didnt release as many great titles as the psx or the snes or whatever other console, therefore it was a disappointment....and that argument is retarded.

That wasn't his argument at all, you illiterate ignoramus.

STK used no logic or reasoning. He simply started making bullshit assumptions...all of which were wrong.

I didn't make any assumptions. I was just pointing out your idiotic bullshit strawman argument. Here it is:

so exactly what genre did the n64 neglect? Maybe 2...sports and fighting games? (Personally, I'd pick killer instinct over lol tekken anyway).

The implication being that fighting games weren't neglected on N64 because the console had a shitty KI port, which you "prefer over Tekken anyway", as if Tekken was the only non-N64 fighting game that existed. I pointed out all the other, BETTER fighting games out there that N64 completely missed out on.

You don't consider the N64 a disappointment because back when you got it, you were too young and too stupid to know any better -- to have the slightest idea of how far Nintendo had fallen.

 

[evil wasabi]

Well...you seem to know me quite well or so you think...

I mentioned earlier that I rented/borrowed one from time to time to play current titles in hopes I'd find something worth buying the system for. I never fully gave up on the N64...it wasn't like I played it in 1669, returned it and never tried it again until 2001...

Back then...I played games with my buddies constantly...the only system I neglected was the Saturn...that's why I never run my mouth about it, I simply know nothing of it. The N64 however, I do know quite a bit about...how many more time do I have to mention I am a Nintendo fanboy?


I have played many of those titles listed...actually one of the worst on the list is Legend of Mystical Ninja 64...to actually list that as a good title is plain absurd...like I also said..most of those title are fluff garbage and to list those as the crowned jewels only proves how sad the console really was...

Different strokes for different folks. Barring Tekken 3 and SFEX+a, the N64 gave me more multiplayer nights of fun with my friends than any other console in the late 90s. Before that, it was all about Kart and MKII on the SNES. That's just the way things are.

I understand if you want to say you loved FFVII, but that's a one player game, and while they can be engrossing, there's no memories there. Playing one player games is about as worthless as masturbating. Yeah, they are fun, and sometimes you want to play them more than multiplayer, but no one gives a shit about it, and no one really wants to to hear your experiences, because that's creepy.

 

[Marek]

Different strokes for different folks. Barring Tekken 3 and SFEX+a, the N64 gave me more multiplayer nights of fun with my friends than any other console in the late 90s.

Whole-heartedly agree.

And Tekken, while pretty entertaining at the time, was absolutely nothing compared to Smash Bros or Goldeneye, in terms of badass non-internet multiplayer action.

 

[Phyeir]

Of course it will...no one actually plays their cabs anymore.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2946997&postcount=9

Everyone here should be playing arcade stuff.

Crap, am I becoming Kernow?

 

[SouthtownKid]

Whole-heartedly agree.

And Tekken, while pretty entertaining at the time, was absolutely nothing compared to Smash Bros or Goldeneye, in terms of badass non-internet multiplayer action.

Smash Bros. is the cotton candy of multi-player gaming. Yes, 4 people can be sitting and all mashing buttons at the same time for a few minutes while random shit happens on the screen, but there's nothing to the experience. A real fighting game is a million times more fun to play with friends than Smash Bros.

 

[evil wasabi]

Smash Bros. is the cotton candy of multi-player gaming. Yes, 4 people can be sitting and all mashing buttons at the same time for a few minutes while random shit happens on the screen, but there's nothing to the experience. A real fighting game is a million times more fun to play with friends than Smash Bros.

I don't know. My brother and his friends played that game on the N64 up through last year. never got into it, but for them it was special.

 

[SouthtownKid]

I don't know. My brother and his friends played that game on the N64 up through last year. never got into it, but for them it was special.

An age thing, maybe? How old were they when they started? I played it a couple times while drinking with friends, and I thought it was about as much of a game as spinning a roulette wheel. Some stuff happened... and then it was over. It was more just something to do while sitting around than something that was actually fun.

 

[SNKNostalgia]

First of all, this is a Neo Geo forum. We like to get what we pay for and expect our shit to be top notch. I am sure a lot of us were like this before the Neo Geo. Hell, I know Merc, Smokehouse and others are this way. We took our games seriously, go balls deep, no fucking around, playing bullshit is for suckas.

When I got the N64, it did not have the same feel of "Quality" that the NES, SNES or the PS1 had, when it came to the games. I was expecting mind blowing games not just pretty good titles overall especially in COMPARISON to the SNES games and as well as the PS1 games that were coming out.

Sure Mario 64 and Zelda OoT are some excellent games and they tend to actually look better graphically than many other N64 games as well. Golden Eye and Perfect Dark are some fun games to run through, but the multiplayer was ass if you have more than 2 players. Jesus fucking Christ 4 players was just terrible on those games.

To Neo_Moe It seems like you didn't own a PS1 when it came out nor played much games then and even now. So you don't know what you missed out on. This is just going by what I have seen in most, not all of your posts as I haven't read all. So I am listing this:

N64 vs. PS1 - Do I really have to show this?!?!

Castlevania 64 x2 < Symphony of the Night and Chronicles

Megaman 64 < MM X4-6, MM 8, MM Legends 1 (identical) and 2

Street Fighter Alpha series - none < Alpha 1-3, even SF movie and collections

SNK - nothing < Inferior to Neo Geo but better than 16 bit ports and none at all

Star Soldier - only shooter I could find US < Einhander, Sexy Parodus, Layer section series, etc...

Ogre Battle 64 < Final Fantasy Tactics, Ogre Tactics, Front Mission 3, Vandal Hearts etc...

Zelda OoT - OK won this one > Alundra, and this is my favorite next to Brave Fencer Musashi and Legacy of Kain 1

Winback < Metal Gear Solid, winback better combat but story, characters etc.. no contest to MGS

Resident Evil 2 = Resident Evil 2, but no RE 1 and 3 for N64, bummer.

Star Fox 64 < Ace Combat 2 and even Warhawk dare I say.

Final Fantasy - none < FF 7, it isn't overrated BTW, you know damn well when that game came out it was fucking awesome and epic as hell to play. Also, FF 8 and FF 9 were nice to have even though not my favorites.

Some other greats on the PS1 US: Tekken 3, Soul Edge, Dino Crisis 2, Ultimate Doom, Elemental Gearbolt, Arc the Lad 1 and 2, Valkyrie Profile, Vagrant Story, Lunar 1 and 2, Breath of Fire 4, Suikoden 1 and 2, and Star Ocean Second Story. There are so many others and tons of import games as well.

The system just comes up short with game series other than Nintendo made ones that have been coming out for years mostly. Hell, they didn't even make a Metroid game which is surprising.