Neo Store Recalls SS5S Carts

JFlex · Jul 30, 2004

From the NeoStore main page
"Samurai Shodown V Special home cartridges to be recalled for reprogramming. Full details to be disclosed on the next business day, which is Monday, August 2nd. Before taking any action, please wait for this upcoming announcement for complete return instruction."

Finally some good news. If programming includes the fatalities I will definitely buy this cart.

GothicSamurai · Jul 30, 2004

Any confirmation if this includes both the English and Japanese version? Or is it just Samurai Showdown V Special (English version)?

Verythrax · Jul 30, 2004

GothicSamurai said:
Any confirmation if this includes both the English and Japanese version? Or is it just Samurai Showdown V Special (English version)?

No. That's what was announced, nothing more, nothing less :annoyed:

JFlex · Jul 30, 2004

I would say both.....we'll get the full story next Monday. I can't imagine they would do one and not the other.

BIG BEAR · Jul 30, 2004

JFlex said:
I would say both.....we'll get the full story next Monday. I can't imagine they would do one and not the other.

If they correct the game in it's pure form,it would shock the hell out of me..I'm almost ready to bet something of value that Playmore will add insult to injury with the this so called "fix" Remember they broke the game in the 1st place :rolleyes:

-BB

Verythrax · Jul 30, 2004

BIG BEAR said:
If they correct the game in it's pure form,it would shock the hell out of me..I'm almost ready to bet something of value that Playmore will add insult to injury with the this so called "fix" Remember they broke the game in the 1st place
-BB

I'm 101% they will do the same 'fix' offered in Japan. Or they will have 6 versions of the game:

- JP AES bugged;
- JP AES 'fixed';
- JP AES unlocked;

- US AES bugged;
- US AES 'fixed' (if anyone in Japan buys the US version, anyway...);
- US AES unlocked.

galfordo · Jul 30, 2004

I'm happy to hear that some action is being taken. However, I guess we'll have to wait and see whether this "action" is what we've been hoping for.

And I'm pretty sure that this recall will involve both US and JPN carts - I don't think SNKP would sink quite that low.

Syxx573 · Jul 30, 2004

I have one thing to say about snk playmore.

:oh_no:

KOF Max Impact is their last chance.

Razoola · Jul 30, 2004

Verythrax said:
I'm 101% they will do the same 'fix' offered in Japan. Or they will have 6 versions of the game:

- JP AES bugged;
- JP AES 'fixed';
- JP AES unlocked;

- US AES bugged;
- US AES 'fixed' (if anyone in Japan buys the US version, anyway...);
- US AES unlocked.

Im not sure what they will do but like you Im quite sure they will offer the same fixes in all regions. Its just a question of if the sound problems are related to the M rom only, if it is then it makes P rom modification less likley. We will just have to wait and see.

Raz

Verythrax · Jul 30, 2004

Razoola said:
Im not sure what they will do but like you Im quite sure they will offer the same fixes in all regions. Its just a question of if the sound problems are related to the M rom only, if it is then it makes P rom modification less likley. We will just have to wait and see.

Raz

Yes, but SNKP stated that they will put the fatalities back, but without the splitting in half scenes, so 'm pretty sure that it will envolve other roms, too.

BIG BEAR · Jul 30, 2004

Verythrax said:
but without the splitting in half scenes

I'm like..... why bother?? and I did'nt think that the SvCC fiasco would ever be duplicated or topped...
Lesson learned?? "Skies the limit", is a two way street.
-BB

Amano Jacu · Jul 30, 2004

These are the items that you want to hang onto and you want
to hang on tight! If/when SNK makes an "updated" or "corrected"
version, I will simply buy that too. Or, if need be and they require
you to send them an old cart, no problem, I will simply buy another
cart from shawn and send them that one! lol
But no way in HELL will they ever get my cart back!

It's GONE!

I always stick with the original.

This is because collecting ANYTHING is a matter of fetish to the end, say adoring an object. Thus, the object must be as real as possible, as closer to the original as possible.

When ANY item is first out of its factory, it's distributed, that's it. Complete with any plastic, seal, chellophan, whatever. That's the finalized 'set'. And must NOT be altered in order to preserve the originality of the object.

No swapping of any part, no patching, whatever.

I preordered (in Japan) TWO copies of the game already, as I always do, yet a PATCHED copy would be anywan meaningless to me.

Another 'corrected' run from the begging would be another story.

.

Verbatum · Jul 30, 2004

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Electroman · Jul 30, 2004

Well this is good news. Since the carts will be "fixed", that could mean:

1.) Our US and/or JP carts will be sent back to Neostore, for 100% credit towards a new shipment of fixed carts.

2.) Our carts will be sent back to Japan to be fixed.

Either way, this presents a nightmare, and a potential moneymaking opportunity for collectors. Heh I wonder if the original issue English version will be worth uber money later.

Anyways, if I had a choice, I would like my US exchanged for a fixed JP version. That way I would get my fatalities back, and have the supreme JP artwork and insert and be so gleefully happy of Shawn. I would also forgive SNKP.

<waits for August 2nd>

finngamer · Jul 30, 2004

Damn. This came a bit too soon. Me and Raz (well, mostly Raz) were going to try to unlock the fatalities with my copy, on the 14th.

Now I have three choices:

1. Not send the cart in, hope for the best in unlocking the shit.

-Resolution 1.1: It's a success, I get the full fatalities and my untouched cart is über-rare.
-Resolution 1.2: It won't work, I've missed my window of trade, and my untouched cart is über-rare.

2. Send the cart in, get the semi-fatalities

-Resolution 2.1: I'm semi-glad, and I'm still hoping for the full fatalities to be unlocked.
-Resolution 2.2: I'm semi-glad at first, but because SNKP took their chance and removed any traces of the fatalities, thus foiling attempts of restoration, I'm fully-pissed.

3. Get a full refund. (If this is an option offered by the NeoStore? Wonder how very light insertion marks enter into this?)

-Resolution 3.1: I use the money to buy the MVS version (later). I'll get everything that was supposed to be included in the game in the first place. Still would prefer the AES cart though...

Arrgh! I'm torn!

thegreathopper · Jul 30, 2004

fatality

I am sure they have already said they will not fix the fatalaties...
In fact I would put money on that.................

SNKJorge · Jul 30, 2004

I can't believe some people think that the inferior censored
version will be 'Uber Rare'
what a bunch of fucktards. :oh_no:

finngamer · Jul 30, 2004

thegreathopper said:
I am sure they have already said they will not fix the fatalaties...
In fact I would put money on that.................

Have you read the boards recently?

Based on translations by several members here of a japanese message from SNKP, it is currently believed, that they will reinstate the fatalities, but so that you won't see anything cut in half. Bodies, heads... will stay in place.

I know, it's confusing (and another miss by SNKP), but SOMETHING will be reinstated. But does it mean they'll alter the animation of the cut-fatalities? THAT is what we're pondering.

xtoo_short20x said:
I can't believe some people think that the inferior censored
version will be 'Uber Rare'
what a bunch of fucktards.

Well, it's going to be.

All of Shawn's stock will be altered, right? And since most of the pre-orderers will be sending back their copy for alteration, the remaining copies will indeed be rare.

Not to me, but to collectors. It is the ORIGINAL, after all. Think of it as a typo or a misprint on an old post-stamp, for example. See what I mean?

Atro · Jul 30, 2004

xtoo_short20x said:
I can't believe some people think that the inferior censored
version will be 'Uber Rare'
what a bunch of fucktards.

C'mon ! It's because the fact they'll remain 'virgin' nothing else.

I don't doubt to see further people keeping the 'virgin' version as a collectible and playing the 'fixed' version for fun. This Neo Geo world is crazy. There are no rules to keep these games cheap. Someone always try one way or another to pump them up in value. What can you do about it ?

thegreathopper · Jul 30, 2004

yes yes yes

Oh yes I have read the boards recently have you ??
The game is still going to be censored compared to the mvs version,
that is the point I am making.....

finngamer said:
Have you read the boards recently?

Shito · Jul 30, 2004

thegreathopper said:
Oh yes I have read the boards recently have you ??
The game is still going to be censored compared to the mvs version,
that is the point I am making.....

Man, you have a point and that's the ONLY real point.

What really matters to know know is the ACTUAL content of the original release chipset.

Is the full Level3 violence really present but just locked out?

If so, I would rather hope for a custom full unlocking than for a sloppy yet 'official' half-restorarion hackjob that would mostly cut out the real deal once for all.

Ralf501 · Jul 30, 2004

finngamer said:
Damn. This came a bit too soon. Me and Raz (well, mostly Raz) were going to try to unlock the fatalities with my copy, on the 14th.

Now I have three choices:

1. Not send the cart in, hope for the best in unlocking the shit.

-Resolution 1.1: It's a success, I get the full fatalities and my untouched cart is über-rare.
-Resolution 1.2: It won't work, I've missed my window of trade, and my untouched cart is über-rare.

2. Send the cart in, get the semi-fatalities

-Resolution 2.1: I'm semi-glad, and I'm still hoping for the full fatalities to be unlocked.
-Resolution 2.2: I'm semi-glad at first, but because SNKP took their chance and removed any traces of the fatalities, thus foiling attempts of restoration, I'm fully-pissed.

3. Get a full refund. (If this is an option offered by the NeoStore? Wonder how very light insertion marks enter into this?)

-Resolution 3.1: I use the money to buy the MVS version (later). I'll get everything that was supposed to be included in the game in the first place. Still would prefer the AES cart though...

Arrgh! I'm torn!

I think you should keep your copy so that maybe you and Raz can find a way to unlock the violence setting.

galfordo · Jul 30, 2004

uber-rare? yes. uber-valuable? I doubt it.

Amano Jacu · Jul 30, 2004

It's funny, imagine they release a game for 359$ and all the first batch is defective and it doesn't work at all so they do a recall. Would collectors stick to it anyway? "Hey, I got the uber-rare version, the one that doesn't work, everybody else only has the common version that works, losers".

Kazuki Dash · Jul 30, 2004

finngamer said:
Damn. This came a bit too soon. Me and Raz (well, mostly Raz) were going to try to unlock the fatalities with my copy, on the 14th.

Now I have three choices:

1. Not send the cart in, hope for the best in unlocking the shit.

-Resolution 1.1: It's a success, I get the full fatalities and my untouched cart is über-rare.
-Resolution 1.2: It won't work, I've missed my window of trade, and my untouched cart is über-rare.

2. Send the cart in, get the semi-fatalities

-Resolution 2.1: I'm semi-glad, and I'm still hoping for the full fatalities to be unlocked.
-Resolution 2.2: I'm semi-glad at first, but because SNKP took their chance and removed any traces of the fatalities, thus foiling attempts of restoration, I'm fully-pissed.

3. Get a full refund. (If this is an option offered by the NeoStore? Wonder how very light insertion marks enter into this?)

-Resolution 3.1: I use the money to buy the MVS version (later). I'll get everything that was supposed to be included in the game in the first place. Still would prefer the AES cart though...

Arrgh! I'm torn!

no need to make your mind up just yet finn, we'll get a better idea of what's going on with the new update from the NeoStore on Monday...what's one weekend?

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