!Arcade! Website opens; (www.neogeousa.com)

Fox1 · Sep 17, 2001

Well its open and there is going to be no AES 2, probably because of the flames it got here a while ago. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Sidez · Sep 17, 2001

heh I even saw one of the comments I made regarding the AES 2 on their website.

I think the news item posted by !Arcade! was extremely childish, blaming us effectively for it not being manufactured. This is complete bollocks and by shifting the blame to us when it is more than likely that they are at fault they are trying to put some sort of guilt trip. Thing is Arcade have not had a proper website for as long as I can remember and nor have they released much info about the AES 2. All that was shown was a mock-up and the principle behind it.

That's all very good but to convince people you need prices, release dates, details of possible packages etc to market your product. The fact that they have kept so quiet about it for so long and the apparent fallout with GameGo (over not honouring the competition from what i've heard) problems in the manufacture of the system were the cause of the canning and not posters on this forum.

Having a long series of posts from this forum as though to prove a point is extremely immature and unprofessional. A simple "we don't have enpugh demand to justify the the production costs" would have sufficed.

Metal Slug · Sep 17, 2001

He,He
I'm with you Sidez!
What a load of shite!

Neo-Geo.Com = Bullshit Busters!

My Fav quotes...

"A MODDED 2 SLOT WITH A FEW BUTTONS ON THE FRONT???LOOKS LIKE IT!!!VERY 80'S!!!ARCADE! HAVE DISSAPOINTED ME!!! BIG TIME!!!AS FOR THE DISBELIVERS.....MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER AS A MYTH LOL "

"That picture doesn't prove anything more than they have a box, with two slots and a home cart of MOTW and MVS of MOTW and a spray painted PSX controller"

What a bunch of buck-passing Lamers!
Looks like the above quotes were right all along!
I guess the mock up will make a good ash-tray!

Sidez · Sep 17, 2001

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I was really looking forward to it's unveiling today and only to be blamed along with others for its demise is very lame. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

outsider · Sep 17, 2001

Very interesting indeed. They seem to have an operational website too, complete with sales and even a forum.

I see some old members over there, so thats what they've been up to eh? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

LWK · Sep 17, 2001

Just visited and the archive of comments shows he was browsing this whole time, so there is no excuse for the lack of answers.
Who knows, maybe the AES2 was created as a hype to get other stuff moving.

Would you want to buy a strikers thinking the AES 2 is on the way? Yep, since that is a selling factor. Entices the upcoming release...
He even quoted me:

"I just like playing my carts in a SNK made machine personally"

The blame game?
HA. The funny thing is, does Yamauchi pay attention to the people who bash nintendo, and does it effect his marketing technique? Nope. There is bashing for ANY system and every system that was ever released, this sounds like a excuse just to get off clean for the lack of material.
He delivered a strikers and a converter, but putting comments up he had obviously saw, only proves to us he saw the endless questions that whent unanswered.

Just how I see it, no offence.

Cool 16 · Sep 17, 2001

I would buy a aes2 for anything under $600. I wish they would make it.

Arakon · Sep 17, 2001

HAHAHA
you know, I've seen this ALOT of times.
create a stupid rumor. wait till people discover that it's a lie and flame the creator. creator then says the item will not be released/given out cause of the people who flamed. 99% of the time, said item didn't even exist in the first place. that's one way to get free advertising.

evasyar · Sep 17, 2001

Yeah, me also thinks the AES2 is a hoax to begin with. A prominent developer, system or software, should be good enough to provide something to show prospective buyers before they could even start to get investors or buyers to "bite the apple" so to speak. Consumers have to be enticed somehow, something tangible like showing of the prototype they had worked showing AES2 capabilities on some consumer electronic show or something. I believe prospective consumers will bite depending on what they can tangibly see as potentially they can have and enjoy and I dont think ARCADE had done that at all... Too bad... <IMG SRC="smilies/shame.gif" border="0">

neojedi · Sep 17, 2001

No, I think it was doable, and may have looked a lot like the Massystems offering. (no inventory, build-to-order) The issue would have been price, I doubt that it could have gotten below $600. Combine that with the fact that no one on this site is planning to spend that kind of money, and no one outside of this site is likely to spend that kind of money, and the system fails.

Who would spend that money on an AES2 when you can buy an original AES and a supergun instead?

[ September 17, 2001: Message edited by: neojedi ]

LWK · Sep 17, 2001

You know what gets me is there was like twice as many people saying they would buy one, yet he uses the few that thought it was BS (which those people are now right BTW)

Thats like me saying, hey buy my ps10!, then when people want to know why they should buy, I will ignore them to look "special"
The only one ray can blame is himself for not giving info about this vaportech.

LWK · Sep 17, 2001

Originally posted by Arakon:
HAHAHA
you know, I've seen this ALOT of times.
create a stupid rumor. wait till people discover that it's a lie and flame the creator. creator then says the item will not be released/given out cause of the people who flamed. 99% of the time, said item didn't even exist in the first place. that's one way to get free advertising.

I agree with you, it seems do orchestated, giving as the obvious way out. I mean how easy is it to set this scenario up.

"I will start a rumor to get my name around!"
Then when people have endless questions and high expectations for something that never materializes then there is the easy way out, blame the people for there expectable reactions. <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">

Kyokugen Star · Sep 17, 2001

Would you want to buy a strikers thinking the AES 2 is on the way? Yep,
since that is a selling factor.

No it isn`t. I bought Strikers without ever even caring about an AES 2 no one needs anyway now that there is the Phantom. I simply desired it for the game itself, the beauty of the artwork, and the collector`s value which were the reasons for most of the other buyers too imo.

And: I don`t know what were the reasons that made Arcade finally cancel it but to claim that is was invented to push a 50 piece cart run for collectors is the most stupid thing I have read for a long time now. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

Highlander67 · Sep 17, 2001

LWK,

I totally agree with you on this one. The few comments that people said against the legendary "AES II" do not compare to the many that were for this new system. THe lack of info and talks about this system could of very well doomed it from the start. It would of been cool to purchase one from !Arcade! but basically lying about how so many people didn't want the system is quite an unhonorable way to go. Personally, I don't think I would want to buy one anyway after their site comments.

BRANDI · Sep 17, 2001

Finally it opened...

nick_th_fury · Sep 17, 2001

does Yamauchi pay attention to the people who bash nintendo, and does it effect his marketing technique?

Hmm,
Actully, if thats true, why on earth is Nintendo attempting to convince everyone
that their new system isnt for kiddies?
After all, we know thats what Nintendo likes.
They've never wanted to cater to adults,
their being forced to by their marketplace.
So I'd have to disagree with you.

As far as !arcade's site, maybe yall should be proud.
You work hard to tear something down,
especially you LWK, & when it fails, they give u credit.
Near as I can tell, that was your objective all along.
So why bitch now?
Or do you just not like the spotlight? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Had ya'll worked hard on a Neo project,
& had people tear into you, you might also be a bit miffed.

I think its kinda a shame on both sides.
I would have liked to have seen the aes2 succede.
It was a very interesting idea IMO.

BIG BEAR · Sep 17, 2001

Nicely designed site...
great to have another site in support of the neo geo .

Very disappointed that the new system will not become a reality.
The quotes that were captured are comical.
-BB

LastResort · Sep 17, 2001

well, seems like people dont know when to quit flaming <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

Sidez · Sep 17, 2001

lay the fuck off

The only party at fault is !Arcade! for not giving an details and failling to convince many that it even existed at all. Those comments show that he has been lurking looking at the questions and points raised and yet still failed to respond.

If you want publicity and hype as well as support for your product then it is up to you the manufacturer and not consumer to create this.

LWK is just one person so I don't believe his opinions mean much overall in the big picture. Most of the comments quoted on the site are due to ignorance regarding the product: Arcade released barely any info regarding the AES 2 hence the speculations and negative comments on the board. If more details, release dates, pictures and actual PROOF that the thing isn't a hoax, i'm sure everyone would be seriously pumped for it.

I don't think it was anyone's fault that the AES 2 never became a reality but by pinning the blame on this forum, !Arcade! are doing no credit to themselves.

It's a shame because the website is quite nice with a decent selection of gear. Further details on AES 2 would have been the cherry on the cake. By quoting from this forum on the front page of their site, the cake tastes very bitter.

Rade K · Sep 17, 2001

I think it boils down to !Arcade! not wanting to take the risk. No way in hell could they have produced this system for a price that people would be willing to pay for.

Sure, a few people would pay large amounts to own this system, but said amount of people is not enough. !Arcade! needed a large amount of public intrest and support for this project and they probably figured that it didn't exist. Well, not enough to make it profitable. They are a business after all.

Pinning the blame on people on this board (and other boards, I'm sure) is not what I think they wanted to do. It was just used to illustrate that public demand for this product was weak. It was no one's fault.

!Arcade! wants to stay in business and not releasing the AES2 was a good way of doing that.

nick_th_fury · Sep 17, 2001

lay the fuck off

No.

If you bitch when they say their going to do something.
Then you bitch when they say their not.
I'd just like to know, when are you not going to bitch.

Ya'll want to criticize anyone & eveything.
Well thats fine, but then you want to do it, without any rebuttal?
Tuff shit.

wagesofsyn · Sep 17, 2001

Very few, including myself, have $600+ to throw around. I'm scraping together to afford Sengoku 3. I would love for the AES 2 to come out, but (and this is a big but, one that was never addressed by !Arcade!) I want pics of the board itself, and the casing, overall definate specs for the system (video, sound, etc.), a preorder price including shipping, a release date, and some kind of confirmation all AES and MVS carts work on it.

Caris Nautilus · Sep 17, 2001

I just tried neogeousa.com and get a 404 error. You mean it got tore down already?

Sifl · Sep 17, 2001

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
I just tried neogeousa.com and get a 404 error. You mean it got tore down already?

She's still up.

Caris Nautilus · Sep 17, 2001

Originally posted by nick_th_fury:
No.

If you bitch when they say their going to do something.
Then you bitch when they say their not.
I'd just like to know, when are you not going to bitch.

Ya'll want to criticize anyone & eveything.
Well thats fine, but then you want to do it, without any rebuttal?
Tuff shit.

Well to be fair Arcade! never really had a finished product, you seriously ever think they were going to release this AES 2? They never had more than a litte pic of the system with some PSX controller.

And all that could have been was a 2 slot in a black casing. They never let out any specs, final pricing ect. If he did have a fully working proto type, you then have to ask WHY didn't he post pics of it running, video ect.? That sure as hell would have gotten hype and demand for it up. I mean you can't expect people to go mad over a system with little to no info up for it...

I doubt they ever were gonna release it anyways, was probly a stunt to get their name out there. Not to mention it was a bad idea, anyone that wants a home system can buy one within a week. What would be the draw of a 3rd party neo that costs almost twice as much?

Since most neo fans want original goods, could he really have thought people would fall all over this idea? I mean you see the hell NGF gets for making converted games.

[ September 17, 2001: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

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