Wizard Tilting Lible: The Last Odyssey for Last Odysseys

[SetaSouji??]

Stop being a muppet. Everyone here sees it. It's annoying. And you suck.

I think we found the root of the problem.

Look at Riste's statement

Now look at his photo and look back.

You thought he was a reject muppet when you came back didn't you?

 

[hyper]

You have until March 31st, 2012 to step down as a moderator at the Assembler forums. Your account must be subsequently purged from the servers of assemblergames.com as well. Additionally, Werejag must be fully reinstated with his original account/privileges at said forum.

If the above requests are not fulfilled by the specified date, I will gradually post here(and elsewhere) dozens of photographs and video footage spanning the past 11 years prominently featuring Assembler's notoriously secretive Founder & Admin, AKA Kevin.

Legit, if you fail to comply with my wishes, you will be solely to blame for the release of said images and video of your forum boss(as it were) into the wilds of the Internet.

Payback's a bitch, neckbeard.

Is this still on the table?

 

[Spike Spiegel]

I also got fucked by Dion long ago (98... last deal I ever did with him). I paid him asap so I could get a game super fast. He proceeded to wait for weeks holding my money, knowing full well I wanted the game quickly. When I got it a month later, it was a fucked up version of the one I requested. No manual, and japanese looking insert instead of the US one that he said he was going to sell me. Later on, I simply gave it away with a sale I made to someone to be nice (like I was able to sell the fucked up one he gave me). Fuck Dion.

 

[Taiso]

I also got fucked by Dion long ago (98... last deal I ever did with him). I paid him asap so I could get a game super fast. He proceeded to wait for weeks holding my money, knowing full well I wanted the game quickly. When I got it a month later, it was a fucked up version of the one I requested. No manual, and japanese looking insert instead of the US one that he said he was going to sell me. Later on, I simply gave it away with a sale I made to someone to be nice (like I was able to sell the fucked up one he gave me). Fuck Dion.

This is all highly circumstantial evidence.

And, just to throw another tired and impotent defense at your scathing, first hand account of NGF's shady practices, that was ten years ago and you just need to let it go.

Because, you know, being cheated clearly has a statute of limitations and once that expires, you no longer have a right to complain.

Especially when the person that screwed you over has never once showed an act of contrition, remorse or regret for any of the things he's ever done, or in any other way comported himself as a representative of a professional vendor of collectible products.

He's taken some pictures in some nice suits, though. Does your wife know this man?

 

[SNKNostalgia]

Man, I fucking love those shirts!!! They look almost as good as my JP Metal Slug 3 freaked into US that is now fucking worthless!

"Le-GIt" seems like a person that goes out of his way to just rationalize shit like there is a good side to all bad things. What a non-realistic way of thinking!

 

[Poonman]

I think we found the root of the problem.

Look at Riste's statement

Now look at his photo and look back.

You thought he was a reject muppet when you came back didn't you?

I really wish Wasabi wasn't posting with my first/last name and my face for his avatar.

Does he have a problem with me?

 

[Kinneth]

I also got fucked by Dion long ago (98... last deal I ever did with him). I paid him asap so I could get a game super fast. He proceeded to wait for weeks holding my money, knowing full well I wanted the game quickly. When I got it a month later, it was a fucked up version of the one I requested. No manual, and japanese looking insert instead of the US one that he said he was going to sell me. Later on, I simply gave it away with a sale I made to someone to be nice (like I was able to sell the fucked up one he gave me). Fuck Dion.

Same thing happen to me, but with Chris Ray for Ninja Combat and Ninja Commando. Paid quickly, with priority shipping and tracking. No response from Chris Ray, and the games were finally shipped 2 months later. Both games were suppose to be "MINT," but were trashed gamers condition. When the games inserts eventually started sticking to the case. Went to complaint, and Chris Ray denied selling me anything. Went to complaint to Dion, he also denied selling me anything. Poor quality.

The paypal proof is here:

Auction Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 6U441887TE2xxxxxx)



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Total amount:
-$120.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$120.00 USD

Date:
Jun 7, 2001
Time:
13:59:23 PDT
Status:
Completed

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Item # Item Title Qty Price Subtotal
[Mint AES games NinjaCombat and NinjaCommando] 0 $120.00 USD $0.00 USD




Shipping & Handling
(includes any seller handling fees): --
Shipping Insurance : --

Total: $120.00 USD


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Subject:
You have sent $120.00 USD to Chris Ray with PayPal
Note:
[Mint AES games NinjaCombat and NinjaCommando]thanks, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Funding Type:
Credit Card
Funding Source:
$120.00 USD - xxxx Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-xxx

 

[El Capitan]

Really genuine suggestion - tempa-ban LeGit for 3-7 days.

Someone needs to go outside, relax, and let this all blow over.

If he's not posting here, he's in the trollbox, bringing the drama... WTF?

 

[Marek]

I really wish Wasabi wasn't posting with my first/last name and my face for his avatar.

Does he have a problem with me?

Its a bro crush.

Just go with it.

 

[Poonman]

Yeah, I got no real problems with it just don't want someone to look me up and find me here.

If he spelled it out in cyrillic I'd be totally ok with it otherwise.

 

[BobbyPeru]

I was going to google the name. I figured it was some obscure war criminal or something...

 

[gum_drops]

If someone does google your name, at least they won't be able to tell it's you by the photo. Seeing as Wasabi painted on that disguise and all.

 

[Poonman]

I was going to google the name. I figured it was some obscure war criminal or something...

I look more like a car thief than I do a war criminal.

 

[BobbyPeru]

I look more like a car thief than I do a war criminal.

I knew the picture was you, I didn't know he was actually using your name.

 

[TonK]

Same thing happen to me, but with Chris Ray for Ninja Combat and Ninja Commando. Paid quickly, with priority shipping and tracking. No response from Chris Ray, and the games were finally shipped 2 months later. Both games were suppose to be "MINT," but were trashed gamers condition. When the games inserts eventually started sticking to the case. Went to complaint, and Chris Ray denied selling me anything. Went to complaint to Dion, he also denied selling me anything. Poor quality.

The paypal proof is here:

Auction Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 6U441887TE2xxxxxx)



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Total amount:
-$120.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$120.00 USD

Date:
Jun 7, 2001
Time:
13:59:23 PDT
Status:
Completed

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Item # Item Title Qty Price Subtotal
[Mint AES games NinjaCombat and NinjaCommando] 0 $120.00 USD $0.00 USD




Shipping & Handling
(includes any seller handling fees): --
Shipping Insurance : --

Total: $120.00 USD


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Subject:
You have sent $120.00 USD to Chris Ray with PayPal
Note:
[Mint AES games NinjaCombat and NinjaCommando]thanks, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Funding Type:
Credit Card
Funding Source:
$120.00 USD - xxxx Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-xxx

Was this around the time you bought one of my JPN Metal Slugs?

I need to find my TSS transaction with Dion.

 

[Tyranix95]

Alas I don't do devil's advocate... people often run off their mouth and write cheques their body can't cash but as Stefan will tell you back in the day I was the devil incarnate.

If you've seen Team America you'd know what I mean when I say we're just a bunch of dicks. A dick can be a good friend to have when you're in a tight spot or your worst enemy. We have probably screwed over a couple of pussies in one way or another so neither of us are innocent, but we probably slapped a couple of arseholes too. The problem is we can't always agree on who is the arsehole and when dicks swordfight... its not pretty. A threeway swordfight helps to soften the blows.

If it sounds like I wanted your opinion I'd give it it you, it's only because I've been down that path and know where it leads and if people cannot agree they should be made to. The thing is I learned from my mistakes a long time ago and I hope at some point you two will too, but if it seems like I'm raging all of the time it is only because my matter of fact attitude is coupled with apathy.

One of the things you'll need to understand though is everything has a balance - there will always be a good and bad guy. The catch is, things arn't in equal amounts at all times and sometimes there is a complete role reversal. You need to be mindful of such things.

We'll never agree to disagree... but if we're going to be a dick about issues we can at least use a condom i.e. be civil about it.
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troll

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

 

[malignantpoodle]

1. Admits he has no interest in the system.
2. Not a single person here wants anything to do with him.

No reason for him to be here. When I asked him in the trollbox what he was doing here, he said something to the affect of, "I won't be able to explain it and you won't understand it".

I'll say he's 100% right about that.

Moving along...

 

[TonK]

Until I get my copy of the Settlement Agreement - this is the best explanation for all 3 documents.

A permanent injunction is an order prohibiting a person or entity from a specific activity... permanently.

"Stipulated" means that both parties (meaning, the NGF guys and the Playmore guys) agreed to the injunction.

The injunction is against Dion and Chris, it is unilateral.

After Playmore filed the suit, a "settlement conference" was had that reached this agreement.

At that conference, there was a "Settlement and Release Agreement" that has not been produced. Dion and Chris wont produce it.

They say its "Confidential" - a lot of bickering could be ended by them producing it.

So all we have to go with is whats in this order, which is most likely everything that was in this agreement anyway.

This order prohibits Dion and Chris, FOREVER, from selling "unauthorized video game cartridges... AND those games set forth in Exhibit "A""

The problem is, this order was terribly written, it doesnt say what video game cartridges are authorized or unauthorized, or what unauthorized means.

And the way its worded, it could be interpreted to mean that they can't sell any of the games listed in Exhibit A - (i.e. "...AND those games set forth in Exhibit A...")

So it is as clear as mud.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050208171535/http://www.snkplaymore.jp/information/en_press15.html

Ok, first off, everything in that release is past tense.

So it is not clear that they are still allowed to sell those games.

Are the inserts fake?

Yes, they aren't made by SNK

But, if the game is on that list, I assume they had permission by SNK, since they won't produce the agreement.

But what does "permission" mean....? Dion and Chris want everyone to believe they had some "licenses" or these were "official" releases.

Permission might just mean that Playmore agreed not to sue them for these releases.

Some Japanese guy wrote this... there is no exception in the injunction for a "press release" so if i were Dion and Chris, I would be very careful about selling anything.

Anyone who wants to get the real story should contact the lawyers for Playmore.

For Chris and Dion to say "these are official games" is still as ridiculous as it ever was.

It's like, what if Nintendo made a press release saying that some fan group ("nintendoage") had their "permission" to sell repro Stadium Events carts?

That doesnt make nintendoage's repro carts any less shitty, or the original any less desirable.

Define official.

To a collector, it means from the original company.

NGF stuff is not official no matter how much "permission" or "licenses" they have.

Just because they have a press release that says SNK gave "permission" to sell them.

There are no freaked releases on that list at all. No English Pulstar, or any other "corrected" releases.

 

[evil wasabi]

buying games and then reselling them makes someone a distributor? So Tonk is a distributor after selling more official metal slugs than anyone else (outside of SNK)?

I say that because it's one thing to be a distributor, which they claim, and another to buy and resell.

 

[werejag]

Really genuine suggestion - tempa-ban LeGit for 3-7 days.

Someone needs to go outside, relax, and let this all blow over.

If he's not posting here, he's in the trollbox, bringing the drama... WTF?

i did not like the treatment i got from assembler forum. to act like them and ban even for a few days shouldn't happen.

legit is the type who wants to litigate things already settled. im surprised tonk is going the long mile to support this.

lets let tonk do his doc search and we should wiki them and then when the ngf gang says its lies we have proof

 

[chrisr]

Same thing happen to me, but with Chris Ray for Ninja Combat and Ninja Commando. Paid quickly, with priority shipping and tracking. No response from Chris Ray, and the games were finally shipped 2 months later. Both games were suppose to be "MINT," but were trashed gamers condition. When the games inserts eventually started sticking to the case. Went to complaint, and Chris Ray denied selling me anything. Went to complaint to Dion, he also denied selling me anything. Poor quality.

The paypal proof is here:

Auction Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 6U441887TE2xxxxxx)



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Total amount:
-$120.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$120.00 USD

Date:
Jun 7, 2001
Time:
13:59:23 PDT
Status:
Completed

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Item # Item Title Qty Price Subtotal
[Mint AES games NinjaCombat and NinjaCommando] 0 $120.00 USD $0.00 USD




Shipping & Handling
(includes any seller handling fees): --
Shipping Insurance : --

Total: $120.00 USD


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Subject:
You have sent $120.00 USD to Chris Ray with PayPal
Note:
[Mint AES games NinjaCombat and NinjaCommando]thanks, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Funding Type:
Credit Card
Funding Source:
$120.00 USD - xxxx Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-xxx

So lets get this straight, you bought two games off of eBay from me, but I did not ship them for two months? Then, after I did, a few MONTHS later you complained about the inserts and I said I never sold you anything?

First off, was this before or after you came to Vegas and enjoyed hanging out with Dion and myself? And if so, I do not remember you mentioning anything about it....

But, even being I have zero recollection of this transaction, I am more than willing to issue you a full refund for the return of the games. 100% refund for both of those worthless freaked gamers condition carts. I feel like Costco now, taking back shit people used for 10 years but no big deal, I just want you to be happy. I truly have no memory of this flap though, and I do remember the famous "Sengoko" incident, to which today has been the only transaction complaint I have had in over 15 years or selling neo geo games, and he refused a retrade.

 

[evil wasabi]

Legit isn't banned. But I did remove his sig because he quoted me, and it violated my aesthetic sense.

 

[68k]

Welcome back Chris

 

[werejag]

....
First off, was this before or after you came to Vegas and enjoyed hanging out with Dion and myself? And if so, I do not remember you mentioning anything about it.... ......

omg everything is great becuase you hung with the ngf pimps.


do you think that highly or youself dion err chrisr? who gives a rats ass who or when you hung with anybody

 

[wataru330]

So lets get this straight, you bought two games off of eBay from me, but I did not ship them for two months? Then, after I did, a few MONTHS later you complained about the inserts and I said I never sold you anything?

First off, was this before or after you came to Vegas and enjoyed hanging out with Dion and myself? And if so, I do not remember you mentioning anything about it....

But, even being I have zero recollection of this transaction, I am more than willing to issue you a full refund for the return of the games. 100% refund for both of those worthless freaked gamers condition carts. I feel like Costco now, taking back shit people used for 10 years but no big deal, I just want you to be happy. I truly have no memory of this flap though, and I do remember the famous "Sengoko" incident, to which today has been the only transaction complaint I have had in over 15 years or selling neo geo games, and he refused a retrade.