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Since you're a legal professional what effect would you say exists when a settlement agreement integrated into a court judgment has conflicts with the judge's order? Which will govern?
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Since you're a legal professional what effect would you say exists when a settlement agreement integrated into a court judgment has conflicts with the judge's order? Which will govern?
I said the same shit and explained it properly several months ago, check my post history. Obviously it fell on deaf ears as your verbal diorrhea keeps getting regurgitated.
I'm not looking for the last word. I'm looking to work together to sort the wheat from the chaff and end the bullshit? It seems to me people may not want that to happen. As you are a conspiracy theory nut, I wonder what you would make of that?
When you're right you're right. I did moderate badly as I should have banned you a long time ago. That's my fault for trying to be reasonable. Evidently I'm at a place where someone else moderates badly though.
I'm guessing from the barely legible sentence that English may be your second language. I do not understand what you are saying, sorry but I do think your English is decent, however there is room for improvement. If you would like some assistance or elocution I may be able to help you. Upon reflection though it seems that you're just saying the same shit I did, in another way.
Whilst the question was not directed at me, I didn't notice anything mutually exclusive in the papers so the point is moot, though I am not 100% on that particular legal system and I may have missed something. The first thing any so called expert should accept though is that everything they know amounts to nothing.
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I hope TonK can answer one question; how much are we going to have to save up for all the new surprises
As long as you don't need new eyes, I think you'll be fine.
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Well, in this case, it doesn't.
As I stated, there were more papers relating to the case, and further outcomes.
These papers were filed October 14 2003. The limited exception press release was issued on December 4 2003.
Note also that the papers of October 14 state that it was an agreement without taking out a permanent injunction. SNK Playmore then state in the press release that it was a permanent injunction. Perhaps they actually did go that step further, I don't know. Still, the press release serves to prove that SNK Playmore did indeed agree to a limited exception allowing NGF to sell games with English corrected inserts, and therefore serves as an addendum to the court papers.
Why you won't accept an SNK Playmore press release as proof of that, I don't know. However, if you want to search on whatever system you have in the US for legal documents, I am sure you would find additional paperwork.
I seem to recall there were other companies who SNK took action against around the same time - e.g. Aruze, Dax Technology, Arcade-Infinity and Worldwide Video Entertainment. I seem to recall Dax losing - what happened to the others?
As I stated, there were more papers relating to the case, and further outcomes.
These papers were filed October 14 2003. The limited exception press release was issued on December 4 2003.
Note also that the papers of October 14 state that it was an agreement without taking out a permanent injunction. SNK Playmore then state in the press release that it was a permanent injunction. Perhaps they actually did go that step further, I don't know. Still, the press release serves to prove that SNK Playmore did indeed agree to a limited exception allowing NGF to sell games with English corrected inserts, and therefore serves as an addendum to the court papers.
Why you won't accept an SNK Playmore press release as proof of that, I don't know. However, if you want to search on whatever system you have in the US for legal documents, I am sure you would find additional paperwork.
I seem to recall there were other companies who SNK took action against around the same time - e.g. Aruze, Dax Technology, Arcade-Infinity and Worldwide Video Entertainment. I seem to recall Dax losing - what happened to the others?
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Why was the press release taken down?
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I think probably because the site seems to be Japanese only now. Back then, snkplaymore.co.jp had an English button at the top, with an English section. Was this replaced by snkplaymoreusa.com? The press release archive on that site only goes back as far as 2007.
Didn't Dion say that NGF shut down in 2004? Perhaps as they were no longer trading, Playmore felt there was no need to keep it up. At least one of the documents was on their site last year, though.
Didn't Dion say that NGF shut down in 2004? Perhaps as they were no longer trading, Playmore felt there was no need to keep it up. At least one of the documents was on their site last year, though.
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It's possible, but you should get your hands on the court documents and see whether you really want to believe Dion. They're out there. I'm sure you can get ahold of them if you really want to.
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Bobak has them, TonK has them, there on my computer somewhere... there's a big ass list of things they illegally sold as well as items they sold that were counterfeit. Someone should drop it in here.
http://digitalbullet.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/7/7/2277892/ngf.pdf
So yeah, just gonna leave this here.....
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Yeah, that's the earlier document, it preceeds the result of the case. Note, though, how it states they're allowed to sell games on a list (exhibit A, doesn't seem to be included?)?
Yes, it mentions them being original English or Japanese covers. However, this document does preceed the case, so it's quite likely that this could have been amended sometime between January and December.
As for finding the documents, I can't really use PACER right now... I think I might still owe them money!
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As for finding the documents, I can't really use PACER right now... I think I might still owe them money!
The last court document on this that I saw was the 10/14/03 permanent injunction, in which the court found against Dion and Chris R, and released SNKP's bail for the TRO back to SNKP.
The titles I spotted were Bust a Move Again EX, Bomberman, Neo Mr. Do, Puzzled, Neo Bomberman, Panic Bomber, Prehistoric Isle and Zupapa.
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=559911&postcount=704
It was permanent against unauthorised titles. There is an authorised list and I spotted the titles above were not on it.
The SNK Playmore press release is essentially a reposting of the court approved list, except that they incorrectly put arcade only by a few titles such as Shock Troopers, whereas the court list was unintentionally for blanket rights. Sadly for NG the court's ruling trumps SNK Playmore's intentions.
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So you're saying, implicitly, that Zupapa was a counterfeit Dion Dakis release, that SNKP successfully sued them to stop selling.
Thanks. Now you can go ahead and give that sincere apology for the dickhead moves you made in your youth. You know, so you don't get removed as a mod at ASSEMBler.
Thanks. Now you can go ahead and give that sincere apology for the dickhead moves you made in your youth. You know, so you don't get removed as a mod at ASSEMBler.
Bust a Move Again EX, Bomberman, Neo Mr. Do, Puzzled, Neo Bomberman, Panic Bomber, Prehistoric Isle and Zupapa, yes.
In fact I said it several months, several pages and several posts ago and have repeated it to deaf ears. If people spent the time to read my shit instead of talking shit, this whole mess could have been avoided long ago.
I could, but I won't. If I am demoted, so be it.
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Your entire point of existence here has been to act as Dion's mouthpiece, while opening old wounds by talking about what a badass you were for destroying people's PSO accounts. And while many people here are bitter about how Dion scammed and stole from people, you have the childish inclination to point out that he didn't scam people at your board. Seriously, you're a waste of time. We already had Chris R operating the NGF spinmachine. They don't need you to be their fucking Avatar, Jake Sully.
You need to apologize for what you did before, to the people whose countless hours you stole. They will never get those hours back. You need to man up, and grow up. It's past due.
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and casually tossing out mentions of an eight inch penis that may or may not be his
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1. SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION: Neogeo Freaks (Press Release 12/04/2003)
2. STIPULATED PERMANENT INJUNCTION (Filed: 10/14/2003; Decided 10/15/2003)
3. PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION (Filed: 1/15/2003; Decided: 1/17/2003)
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Stipulation
An agreement between attorneys that concerns business before a court and is designed to simplify or shorten litigation and save costs. ....
Permanent Injunction
A final order of a court that a person or entity refrain from certain activities permanently or take certain actions (usually to correct a nuisance) until completed. A permanent injunction is distinguished from a "preliminary" injunction which the court issues pending the outcome of a lawsuit or petition asking for the "permanent" injunction.
Preliminary Injunction
A temporary order made by a court at the request of one party that prevents the other party from pursuing a particular course of conduct until the conclusion of a trial on the merits.
A preliminary injunction is regarded as extraordinary relief. The party against whom it is sought must receive notice and an opportunity to appear at a hearing to argue that the Injunction should not be granted. A preliminary injunction should be granted only when the requesting party is highly likely to be successful in a trial on the merits and there is a substantial likelihood of irreparable harm unless the injunction is granted. If a party has shown only a limited probability of success, but has raised substantial and difficult questions worthy of additional inquiry, a court will grant a preliminary injunction only if the harm to him or her outweighs the injury to others if the injunction is denied.
2. STIPULATED PERMANENT INJUNCTION (Filed: 10/14/2003; Decided 10/15/2003)
3. PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION (Filed: 1/15/2003; Decided: 1/17/2003)
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Stipulation
An agreement between attorneys that concerns business before a court and is designed to simplify or shorten litigation and save costs. ....
Permanent Injunction
A final order of a court that a person or entity refrain from certain activities permanently or take certain actions (usually to correct a nuisance) until completed. A permanent injunction is distinguished from a "preliminary" injunction which the court issues pending the outcome of a lawsuit or petition asking for the "permanent" injunction.
Preliminary Injunction
A temporary order made by a court at the request of one party that prevents the other party from pursuing a particular course of conduct until the conclusion of a trial on the merits.
A preliminary injunction is regarded as extraordinary relief. The party against whom it is sought must receive notice and an opportunity to appear at a hearing to argue that the Injunction should not be granted. A preliminary injunction should be granted only when the requesting party is highly likely to be successful in a trial on the merits and there is a substantial likelihood of irreparable harm unless the injunction is granted. If a party has shown only a limited probability of success, but has raised substantial and difficult questions worthy of additional inquiry, a court will grant a preliminary injunction only if the harm to him or her outweighs the injury to others if the injunction is denied.
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Looks to me like the limited exception to the Permanent Injunction is found in the PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION (Filed: 1/15/2003; Decided: 1/17/2003) and NOT the STIPULATED PERMANENT INJUNCTION (Filed: 10/14/2003; Decided 10/15/2003).
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December 4, 2003
SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION
Neogeo Freaks
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As a limited exception to the Permanent Injunction, the video games on the list below, and only those video games, were purchased from SNK Corporation Japan, and were sold by Neogeo Freaks/NGF USA with the permission of SNK Corporation Japan. These games were sold by Neogeo Freaks/NGF USA with the corrected English AES inserts with the permission of SNK Corporation Japan.
The List of Authentic Games owned by Neogeo Freaks/NGF USA is as follows:
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December 4, 2003
SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION
Neogeo Freaks
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As a limited exception to the Permanent Injunction, the video games on the list below, and only those video games, were purchased from SNK Corporation Japan, and were sold by Neogeo Freaks/NGF USA with the permission of SNK Corporation Japan. These games were sold by Neogeo Freaks/NGF USA with the corrected English AES inserts with the permission of SNK Corporation Japan.
The List of Authentic Games owned by Neogeo Freaks/NGF USA is as follows:
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Fuck guys, this is the thread that keeps on giving.
NGF completely destroyed by Mike
Appearances from everyone under the sun except Shawn
England still proving it produces the most worthless forum members around the world
Old-time big gun Stephan dropping revenge on said crappy British member
Some wistful remembrance of a gone but never forgotten member of this site
Lots of nostalgia
Some Photochop
Cross-forum ownage of the NGF butthole twins
Shit, this is still the best site on the interwebs.
NGF completely destroyed by Mike
Appearances from everyone under the sun except Shawn
England still proving it produces the most worthless forum members around the world
Old-time big gun Stephan dropping revenge on said crappy British member
Some wistful remembrance of a gone but never forgotten member of this site
Lots of nostalgia
Some Photochop
Cross-forum ownage of the NGF butthole twins
Shit, this is still the best site on the interwebs.
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I agree with the statement above.