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werejag

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you have me.. i cant suggest the post or thread since you deleted it. it happened but since you gobles everything not flattering to assembler... i give up

yes this again since it was never resolved. deleting and banning the questioner didn't resolve it. I'm not the lemmings you deal with every day on assemblers.
 

pipes

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Why don't you and werejag take this somewhere else? None of us know, or care about what you two are fighting about.

Seriously, it's messing up the flow of the whole thread.
 

LeGIt

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Why don't you and werejag take this somewhere else? None of us know, or care about what you two are fighting about.

It is an issue which evidently only exists in werejag's mind.

I would suggest it was an attempt to stir up trouble and/or discredit both myself and the ASSEMbler forum and he probably brought it up because I posted here and he is butthurt that he was recently banned from there. I really have nothing more that I can say to werejag that hasn't been said to him a thousand times elsewhere. I'm sure he is the kind of person to be wearing a tinfoil hat and spouting conspiracy theories, but whatever I'm done with him now.
 
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evil wasabi

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this reminds me of the time that rev stu kid joined the forums...

the mummy vs zombie wars of ... 2009 I guess.
 

Michael Yagami

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IMHO, Looks like Chris & Dion are:

images

He took time out of his busy, busy day to post those pics and has no time to pop Last Odyssey in the old AES and shoot a quick pic or vid.

And why does he keep shirtless pics of Chris on his harddrive?
 
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LeGIt

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I know, right?

Yet he can't record a simple video.

Out of interest why will you not accept Dion's offer to meet him?

I'm quite content to meet Rot despite his penchant for dancing in the nude.
 

BobbyPeru

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Out of interest why will you not accept Dion's offer to meet him?

I'm quite content to meet Rot despite his penchant for dancing in the nude.

The "let me slap you in the face" meeting? Sounds like fun.

And that's not taking into account family and work obligations...

I wouldn't fly half way across the country to play an unfinished ngh game* and get slapped in the face.

*That doesn't exist.

Actually this would be a great opportunity to expose them at the highest possible level. We should all pitch in $20 to fly Tonk out there, if he's free and down with that idea.
 
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jsiucho

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Out of interest why will you not accept Dion's offer to meet him?

Your real question should be, why cant Dion just post a short video of the game and get it over with. Its so much simpler and will get the same results. Well off course if he actually had the game.



JS
 

LeGIt

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The "let me slap you in the face" meeting? Sounds like fun.

And that's not taking into account family and work obligations...

I wouldn't fly half way across the country to play an unfinished ngh game and getted slapped in the face.

Well yeah the slap in the face element seems a bit daft but Dion doesn't mention anything preventing him from getting slapped back? :P (unless I missed it)

Your real question should be, why cant Dion just post a short video of the game and get it over with. Its so much simpler and will get the same results. Well off course if he actually had the game.



JS

A Mexican standoff it is then and I suspect that is how the situaiton shall remain =/

wikipedia said:
In financial circles, the Mexican Standoff is typically used to connote a situation where one side wants something, like a concession of some sort, and is offering nothing of value, and the other side sees no value in agreeing to any changes so refuses to negotiate. Although both sides can benefit from the change, neither side can agree to a compensation value for agreeing to the change, and nothing is accomplished.
 
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werejag

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its not mexican stand off since dion has been proven to be a liar. dion now must provide proof

tonk smacked him down its only you that is supporting him
 

LeGIt

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its not mexican stand off since dion has been proven to be a liar. dion now must provide proof

That is not how it works.

Generally the prosecution bears the burden of proof and is required to prove their version of events to this standard. This means that the proposition being presented by the prosecution must be proven to the extent that there could be no "reasonable doubt" in the mind of a "reasonable person" that the defendant is guilty. There can still be a doubt, but only to the extent that it would not affect a reasonable person's belief regarding whether or not the defendant is guilty.

tonk smacked him down its only you that is supporting him

Oh FFS yet another issue you clearly struggle to understand. I do not condone Dion's actions nor do I condemn him.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...on-ASSEMbler&p=3191929&viewfull=1#post3191929

Thankyou for the links.

Assuming the documents are correct, I can't see: Bust a Move Again EX, Bomberman, Neo Mr. Do, Puzzled, Neo Bomberman, Panic Bomber, Prehistoric Isle and Zupapa in the authorised MVS to AES list.

I do see Breakers Revenge, Captain Tornaday, Metal Slug, Monkey Puzzle Exchanger and World Soccer 96 in the list however and these were titles stated converted from MVS to AES which would appear to legitimise some conversions but not all. It does however put a spanner in the words of the alleged daughter of a CEO at SNK USA's claims to NO rights though.

They also have Twinkle Star Sprites in the MVS to AES seizure list, but fail to state the language, but in the distribution list they accept he had the rights to distribute the Japanese version, so whether his version was Japanese or not who knows but the list appears to be based on seized titles only - it's possible Dion had titles which were not seized, but at the same token, it is possible Dion had the rights to more titles but insufficient documentation at the time of the hearing. Typically Judges don't like to fuck around waiting for you to get that last little bit of proof, when they just want you to GTFO of their court - so you either have it to hand or you don't and they go off that.

I think if the documents are clear, from the rights presented Dion may have taken a few liberties, but many of the allegations, even if some are true, are off the mark as well. For example someone stated all MVS to AES conversions were illigitimate - having gone through the injucntion/seizure and press release, clearly this is not the case.

Whatever discredit Dion may have brought to the Neo community, I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but the Neo community would have done things wrong too. Personally the misinformation about the events would be one of them. Not recognising the legitimised reprints and conversions on the master list is one of them - if the master list is for officially recognised titles, even if you're not happy with the freaked quality or Dion's behaviour, in many cases it is still the official quality and the official product so that should grant them entitlement to the master list. Forgetting freaked titles exist is silly - it is up to people if they want to collect freaked titles or not, but given as many freaked titles are official titles, they belong on your list too.

Assuming the documents are correct, I also see the unreleased Diggerman in the original claim, but this does not mean the prototype is a fake, only that he didn't appear to have the right to redistribute it. It does go some way towards proving the game did exist and it was in his possession though.

There is a saying, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. There is also the saying let by gones be bygones. What happened, happned a long time ago. If there was any legal recourse, your time limit would have likely expired. As for Adol, Shock Troopers is on the approved product list, so again it doesn't look like YOU got scammed, even if everyone else did. You really need to start forgetting about all that French law crap, because that is all it is - merde.

Obviously people have questions for Dion, but if you're going to keep shouting at him, he isn't going to be listening.

What I would like to know is what do people expect from Dion:

A manual?

Money?

Closure?

It seems to me that everyone involved lost, even Dion and it is clear whatever your hopes are now Dion showed up, it is unlikely anything will come of it. If I were in your shoes, as someone who has been scammed out of many thousands of pounds I'd have taken legal action when I was able to and if not, forgot about it and got on with life as there is more to living than 14 year old hate campaign.
 
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pipes

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LeGIt: Why has this thread become all about you all of a sudden? You're killing it. I hate having to skip over your long ass posts all the time now. Plus, I had to go into settings to disable signatures because of you. It's annoying. It's the most horrible thing to have to look at.
 

werejag

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he is already sentenced and found guilty if he wants his case reopened he must provide new evidence.
 

Yodd

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Plus, I had to go into settings to disable signatures because of you. It's annoying. It's the most horrible thing to have to look at.

There use to be a rule about annoyingly large signatures. I would think his qualifies.

He likes to go on about people breaking ASSEMbler rules, yet he seems to have no problem being inconsiderate on our forum.
 

LeGIt

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LeGIt: Why has this thread become all about you all of a sudden? You're killing it. I hate having to skip over your long ass posts all the time now. Plus, I had to go into settings to disable signatures because of you. It's annoying. It's the most horrible thing to have to look at.

Last I checked I was invited to stick around, so I am. Also people are asking me to respond in a round about way, such as yourself, so I do.

I was also PM'd by two people regarding my signature, it doesn't seem to violate any rule but now that I've got the time free I'lll deal with it.

he is already sentenced and found guilty if he wants his case reopened he must provide new evidence.

Hence the offer of a visit with alleged proof, a slap and the subsequent Mexican standoff.

There use to be a rule about annoyingly large signatures. I would think his qualifies.

He likes to go on about people breaking ASSEMbler rules, yet he seems to have no problem being inconsiderate on our forum.

If the rule still existed I would have happily abided by it. Given as my signature has changed by popular demand it is a moot point now. Please bear in mind if your board member hadn't been inconsiderate in the creation and redistribution of the images, I wouldn't have had them to include in my signature in the first place.
 
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werejag

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meeting him in person is not necessary. him posting proof is the only necessary unless the verdict stands. mexican stand off implies an impass there is none here. hench the no mexican standoff.
 
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