Why still dealing with NGF?

[Laserblast]

Bear did you even see my question?

 

[BIG BEAR]

Did you support NGF?? I told you that you have to look for the chips with the circled sticker on it.This sticker is covering the window that will erase the info on the chip if exposed by 'DIRECT LIGHT' I am a minus -5 TECH so please ask Chris R what he's done to your NGF home carts! UNLESS you want to open the cart up completely and look for anything out of the ordinary..everything on the PCB's should be consistent (soldering) undisturbed.
NGF = 'HOME oF THE SAC CART' <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
AES Carts <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">' ALL EPROMED SHIT'
Please don't think I am trying to scare you..Chris already told you he's the best TECH around and his lover is Dion soooo what do you think that equals??
No scare tactic..unhuh..just EDUCATION!
-BB <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

 

[BIG BEAR]

Anybody selling a NGF cart might as well sell a CD full of ROMS with the EMU..you'd fetch a whole lot more <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Guess what.. one of the chips went bad on my game cart. Damn.. let me go DL a ROM from the internet and copy it to an EPROM CHIP like NGF does... COOL!! My carts will never DIE as long as I have the ROMS and plenty of EPROMS like NGF!! Warranty sticker on carts <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> pretty smart! you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the peoiple all of time.
NGF fucked with the wrong one!! I can see if it was true..what you say about me..I would address it but 99.9% of what you guys preach is a LIE!!
Chrissy is 'CONCERNED' because I just 'EXPOSED' NGF totally! He won't be able to make that mortgage payment on his new abode now! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
you #10 TECH you!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
-BB

 

[Laserblast]

Bear, if you happened to look up all my posts since registering, outside of being bored to death, you would see that I NEVER supported NGFUSA in anyway. I never defended them. I don't own any of their games. I posted repeatedly the crap I have seen them pull. Don't get so riled up you start taking tones with people. What I like least about them is how they treat "bigtymers" great and everyone else like crap. My philosophy is to treat each and every customer like they are your best customer. NGFUSA disgusts me on so many levels I won't go near them. I was asking for your advice not trolling. Don't jump down my throat man.

 

[TonK]

Read my post under News and Rumors...

 

[BIG BEAR]

Not attacking you at all....what you have to understand is that the tone I am taking is not directed at you. My business practices are 'SECOND TO NONE' Business is Business!! This is a whole different animal and I will take the hostile tone when discussing these 'FREAKS' home of the '(A)ll {E)promed (S)hit' Cart.
There's no such thing as level headed discussion when NGF threads pop up condoning the selling of SAC carts!
AGAIN my anger is only directed at the NGF and there supporters!! The supporters are HORRIBLE too because their whole attitude is 'as long as I don't get fucked over it's cool' but what happens when you become there victim?? You'll come to this BBS crying about how they SCAMMED YOU..blah..blah..and all of us nay sayers are supposed to welcome you with open arms because you'll realize we were'nt bullshittin' you..
SAVE IT! I'm gonna let you have it!
-BB

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[Laserblast]

Bear when I first got online in Jan and first got on this board in Feb I did not know a thing about NGF. I was looking to get all the Neo carts I missed out on over the years by not having internet access. It was tough finding most games and yet NGF had them all listed for sale, it looked so easy. People here were patient and answered my questions. The steered me away fron NGF and said be patient. Now I managed to meet some great sellers and get some home carts I never thought I would get. And I have seen NGF treat people terribly and lie in ads and auctions for myself. I never dealt with them and feel like I have dodged a bullet. I'm grateful to many people here. What I am saying is that you will help more people by being patient and calm and giving them good info about NGF and why you think they are hurting the Neo Geo hobby than if you just start exploding. Everyone is entitled to some ranting, but don't scare people into the waiting maw of death that is NGF. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

 

[BIG BEAR]

I'm not trying to SCARE anybody! If the 'TRUTH' is scary.. then it is..what it is...I not going to 'SUGAR COAT SHIT' for you guys...because I'm guessing sugar won't improve the taste of SHIT!
I'm not going to stop EXPLODING when this SCUM is destroying the scene and people see fit to say what they do is 'COOL' <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
I don't want to purchase a home cart one day ,open up my package only to discover a 'FAKE NGF INSERT' A STICKER PLAGUED RUINED MANUAL' 'GLUED TOGETHER CASING' 'NGF WARRANTY STICKER ON MY CART' 'EPROMS ON THE PCB'S OF MY CART' and 'BEAT MEAT STAINS ALL OVER IT'
You people wtill want to run into the arms of the 'HOME OF THE SAC' Cart?? They have plenty (A)ll(E)prommed (S)hit Carts so no need to run into their arms...
-BB <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">
BTW.. Why do they do what they do?? MONEY!!!
The home cart scene is very lucrative (original product) these bastards are taking a page out of the books of TAIWAN dealers and covering their ASS with warranty labels.

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[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]

 

[ThePunisher]

I just started searching around online for neo geo carts and found Neo geo freak. I'm just happy I found this forum before I ordered anything. Big Bear I believe you should keep telling about Neo geo freak because I totally believe what your saying. Dion or Chris offered to sell me a cd with 100 roms and an emulator on it. To me you are making perfect sense. Dont sugar coat shit big bear just tell the thruth! It makes me worry about my own collection a little.

 

[Laserblast]

I give up! What are you trying to prove NGFUSA correct that this forum is all flames? <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> I know you are right but you are not going to help any newbies with that attitude. If this were the war room I would think you were being funny. But this is general DISCUSSION. If I were a newbie I would be scared to death and only too happy to listen to NGFUSA sugar coated lies. You are right Bear but no one is going to want to listen if you keep this up. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> Sure let the people who support NGF and know better have it but don't get people who never supported NGF in any way caught in the cross fire. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0">

 

[ThePunisher]

I disagree i'm a newbie and I want to hear the truth and not some sugar coated bullshit. How would you like it if no one told you what ngf was doing and you ordered a sac cart with stickers destroying the manual Im just glad big bear didnt give me sugar coated lies. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Laserblast]

Originally posted by ThePunisher:
<STRONG>I disagree i'm a newbie and I want to hear the truth and not some sugar coated bullshit. How would you like it if no one told you what ngf was doing and you ordered a sac cart with stickers destroying the manual Im just glad big bear didnt give me sugar coated lies. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

It's not what Bear is saying it's how he's SAYING it. People were much nicer when I asked in FEB and I checked around and saw for myself and then became a NGFUSA hater. If some one like them existed in the Sports Card industry for example, they would be Blacklisted and Shut Down. Since they continue to exist without changing people need to be warned not YELLED at.
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[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by Laserblast:
<STRONG>I give up! What are you trying to prove NGFUSA correct that this forum is all flames? <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> I know you are right but you are not going to help any newbies with that attitude. If this were the war room I would think you were being funny. But this is general DISCUSSION. If I were a newbie I would be scared to death and only too happy to listen to NGFUSA sugar coated lies. You are right Bear but no one is going to want to listen if you keep this up. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> Sure let the people who support NGF and know better have it but don't get people who never supported NGF in any way caught in the cross fire. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Look Laserblast if you don't like the programming,change the channel. It's that simple.. I DARE anyone out here to deal with NGF!! OH there going to be on there best behavior for a lil' while now because I've EXPOSED them today!!! I will continue to ATTACK THEM and make them stay on there BEST behavior thus putting them out of business!!
I'm never going to STOP until they are FINISHED!!! ALL you 'PRESTIGIOUS' home cart owners should be 'WORRIED' because of -NGF-
Chris R & Dion Dakis respectively Dion is just a 'BABBLIN' IDIOT' Chris R is the guy committing most of the crime!!
NGF can't stay in business if they can't sell you there (A)ll (E)prommed (S)hit Carts....
Have you guys ever asked yourselves where in the hell do they come up with all these carts???? Chris R just tried to sell a $1600 soldering station on eBay and I'm the CROOK???
I will never stop preaching the truth! I am going to suggest you NGF cart owners to go get a 'HEAT' GUN and peel that sticker back a bit to expose the seam of your cart..then unlock the cart from it's sides,then take a photo of CHRIS R's work and Dion's signature!
-BB
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[Laserblast]

I'm not convinced that your approach is the best Bear and I'm not changing the channel. This ain't T.V. where I just watch. This is my hobby and I care about it and can participate. Quit calling me a NGF cart owner, I don't have a single one and I never so much as gotten a flyer from them. I AGREE WITH YOU. I just think all you are doing with that tact is helping the other side. <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

 

[ThePunisher]

But you have to yell sometimes to get your point across and thats what big bear seems to be doing I dont know about everyone else but it sure has worked on me.

 

[Laserblast]

Originally posted by ThePunisher:
<STRONG>But you have to yell sometimes to get your point across and thats what big bear seems to be doing I dont know about everyone else but it sure has worked on me.</STRONG>

But when you saw for yourself and were offered ROMS did not that make the point better than anyone here could?
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[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by Laserblast:
<STRONG>I'm not convinced that your approach is the best Bear and I'm not changing the channel. This ain't T.V. where I just watch. This is my hobby and I care about it and can participate. Quit calling me a NGF cart owner, I don't have a single one and I never so much as gotten a flyer from them. I AGREE WITH YOU. I just think all you are doing with that tact is helping the other side. <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

You're not going to tell me how my attitude should be so forget it! I am YELLING AT YOU GUYS because a few of you RETARDS still don't get it!
When you support NGF,you support the OBLITERATION of the 'HOME CART' market!!
Some people want to be 'LUVEY DUVEY'
and play the middle. Guess what? I found out the 'HARD WAY' Nobody can play the fence...
you're either 'FOR' or 'AGAINST'
The 'TOTAL ANNIHILATION' of the 'NEO GEO' hoime scene!!
Why in the fuck do you guys beluieve cart prices have SKY ROCKETED??? The authentic stuff is being destroyed(most likely kept) by NGF and replaced with
(A)ll (E)prommed (S)hit Carts!
You want to take my attitude personal??
SO BE IT!! I already explained to you the anger is not directed at you but if you want to jump in the eline of fire...your choice.
-BB <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

 

[ThePunisher]

It did show me they were bad. Big Bear might be going a crazy but he should because look at what dion and chris are doing. Big bear is right in saying that they could destroy neo geo community by frauds and scams. Hopefully they'll be destroyed. I will never purchase anything from those bastards. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

 

[Laserblast]

GREATTTTT! Let NGFUSA say look at the Hot Head over at Neo Geo .com still mad over MVS cases. (I don't agree with their statements or take on that mess I just am telling you you are playing into their hands) I already said you are entitled to rant, I just don't think you are entitled to rant at everybody.
Fine, let's agree to disagree.

 

[Joe McCabe]

I was wondering how many of you have actual dealt with NGF? So far I have trade some stuff with Chris for mvs carts and I had no problems.

 

[Laserblast]

Cool Punisher glad you were able to avoid grief with NGF. I have been agreeing with Bear the whole thread that's why I am so confused. If it were anyone else I would ignore it , but I respect Bear and care about the situation.

 

[ThePunisher]

yeah anyway i agree with you that this whole ngf thing doesnt have to be the sole thing to talk about. I believe You should also talk about more things besides just hate in this forum.

 

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by Laserblast:
<STRONG>GREATTTTT! Let NGFUSA say look at the Hot Head over at Neo Geo .com still mad over MVS cases. (I don't agree with their statements or take on that mess I just am telling you you are playing into their hands) I already said you are entitled to rant, I just don't think you are entitled to rant at everybody.
Fine, let's agree to disagree.</STRONG>

If people believe I am 'MAD' over the MVS LIE.You are absolutely correct.I'm not going to tell you different.
The lie they told about me(freakin' my stock),etc. is only a benefit to the unsuspecting because now I have revealed the 'TRUTH' about NGF! you want to refer to me as a 'HOT HEAD'? fine. You want to focus on the messenger and not the message? fine.
All you prestigious 'NGF' cart owners need to pop open your carts if you have the balls...go ahead.. break that warranty sticker seal on the cart and then accuse NGF of selling you a SAC CART! They'll say your just trying to sabotage them because their SEAL is broken

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The only people who disagree with what I am saying support the OBLITERATION of NEO GEO carts as we know it!
Hey all you MVS MOTW owners? How did you feel when you realized somebody dl'ed a DEMO ROM from the internet and copied it to an EPROM CHIP selling you the game for 'BIG MONEY'??? You guys would have never known if the GREEDY ASS BOOTLEGGER had of checked the ROM for accuracy before distributing the carts.
Laserblast since I am scaring people into the arms of NGF,you should be placing an order for a couple of AES carts now right??
You money...not mine <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
-BB

 

[Laserblast]

Originally posted by ThePunisher:
<STRONG>yeah anyway i agree with you that this whole ngf thing doesnt have to be the sole thing to talk about. I believe You should also talk about more things besides just hate in this forum.</STRONG>

Bless you for ending this on a good note. Whaddayah want to talk about?
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[Laserblast]

Bear:
1. I said I respected you.
2. I said NGF will call you a hot head not me and I don't agree with that.
3. I did not say you would scare me into NGF's arms I know better, but you might do it to others.
4. The entire mess was started because I thought maybe I had found a way to check AES carts WITHOUT popping them open.
I would like to disagree without being disagreeable if I may. <IMG SRC="smilies/redface.gif" border="0">