Why Sony, why?

Neo Alec

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I can't remember but could you use MegaDrive controllers on the 7800 like you can the 2600?
You can but only the main (2600) button will work. The Atari 7800 second button will not work -- You need a real 7800 controller for that.
 

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I can't remember but could you use MegaDrive controllers on the 7800 like you can the 2600?
Yes, but you need an adaptor for it. Technically, you can connect a MD controller straight to the machine and some games even work with it (Xevious, to some extend) but in most cases, the game will behave weird and/or the chara/ship cannot be controlled at all.

I have a Seagull 78 MD-to-7800 adaptor made by Edladdin, it does the trick but there's a better one available at the Atariage store called 7800 Mega Controller that not only supports MD pads and sticks but also Master System pads, sticks and even the light phaser.
 

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What makes this ridiculous is that console generations are more muddled than ever.

Games are still being made for the previous generation, which was over 10 years ago. Elden Ring, which was the biggest console release of the last decade, was compatible with 2 generations of consoles. If anything, the current generation has been hamstrung by being tied to the PS4 (previous) and the Xbox Series S (current). We barely know what this current gen is capable of without being held back by inferior hardware. Why should anyone buy an "upgraded" console when so much software is still being developed for consoles that came out 10+ years ago?
 

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I looked this over recently. Sony is just fucking crazy with this thing in regards to the price. No Disk Drive and you HAVE to buy the stand separately? Hard fucking pass for what I consider a mid-gen upgrade.
 

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They taking the Apple approach to hardware design. Remove everything and make them pay for it.
They might as well remove all the ports and make you buy a giant adapter do you can use your external drive.
 

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Imagine making the external drive add-ons completely bespoke like some Sinclair microdrive thing

I always wonder what on earth they're doing with Xbox and why anyone would buy into two decades of failure
 

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I'll let sony know viewpoint is out for this mid gen refresh
Hey it's not like the only one including people in this thread alone that think this thing isn't worth what Sony is asking. The generation gap in graphics isn't what it was like back when you compare it to the NES to the Super NES to the Nintendo 64. The only reason I ever even got a PS4 Pro was just for the better performance but even then the price wasn't that bad compared to now.
 

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Kern have you had a stroke?


 

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What? Significantly?
Oh dear
40%? Yeah. I thought you were an accountant or something. Maybe there will be a PS5 Pro game with ray tracing, 4k, 60f that teaches people about p-values.
 

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Very true but even so the PS4 Pro had a Disc drive.
I don't remember it having an SSD, 16GB RAM, and the GPU the 5 did though? Yet you were happy paying that back then for $180 less hmm

Strange
 

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40%? Yeah. I thought you were an accountant or something. Maybe there will be a PS5 Pro game with ray tracing, 4k, 60f that teaches people about p-values.
Why on earth did you think I was an accountant?

517 is not 60% of 700
Its not my fault you spastics covet shelves full of rotting plastic .. optical media?

Of all the formats to covet and moan about you can't use, you choose fucking optical media to fill your shelves with? Good luck using them in ten to twenty years regardless of whether any hardware runs them. Which it won't .. because it's 2024 already.

*Check out my PS2 and PS3 shelves"
 

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You pussies and your disc drives, your gaming pc doesn't have one
Wouldn't be hard to get an external drive now would it and probably for pennies on the dollar compared to what Sony is asking for their drives. >o

In all seriousness Kern, I feel that this console while yes it's an upgrade it's still a little too early to bring into the market. The pandemic along with the huge amount of scalping with the original PlayStation 5 had along with the Xbox Series X as well ended up overall having a large impact which kept these systems from landing into the hands of everyday consumers. Which eventually in the end really put a crutch on these things because most people who were buying these systems were at one point buying zero games for it. You know... the whole thing where these companies admit they'll sell consoles at a loss to help boost software sales kinda thing. Also the proof being that games are still being made for the PS4/Xbox One because a lot of people have these older gen consoles.

The Switch in comparison had some scalping issues also but nowhere near the extreme levels that the PS5 had and to an extent the Xbox Series X. I honestly feel that a console should have at least 5 to 6 years of a solid life of games coming on it where you shouldn't feel like you have to buy another system in the same generation because of upgraded features.

I was already wondering how much this thing is going to be scalped for but who knows. Maybe Sony will be smart and flood the market with this thing to deter people from trying to flip this as much.

Of all the formats to covet and moan about you can't use, you choose fucking optical media to fill your shelves with? Good luck using them in ten to twenty years regardless of whether any hardware runs them. Which it won't .. because it's 2024 already

I actually 100% agree with this even tho I still buy physical media all the time. I've more been into retro shit these days so with the catalog of stuff I have and play I think I'll be set for the rest of my days. Generally tho an all digital future is something I loathe since software companies get more control over the things you buy.

Case in point "The Crew" and just recently "Concord" where these companies are literally going into people's steam accounts & console system libraries and straight up deleting the games from your system.

That kind of shit is where this meme of "If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing." is sadly a reality we're coming to.

Funny enough physical copies of Concord which originally retailed for 40 bucks has shot up in price to over 100+ dollars cuz people are silly. The game discs are literally nothing but drink coasters.
 
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