why? ive been to the philippines many times and every arcade has a KOF machine. KOF is fully respected through out the whole entire world, cuz i know KOF is a world thing. when it comes down to the US, its a total bitch and i always see a crowd around tekken or any fighting game made by capcom. when i see a KOF machine in a big arcade, no one plays it. why?
why is it that KOF never gets respect in the US?
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American peoples LOVE Mortal Kombat, <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> , well i think that s explain all about the mentality of peoples who play in the arcade in usa <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
oh Anyways the first mk was a good one, not really after, and why press a button for the guard, i had never understand about that
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People just like playing games like MvC crossover game because there so called "crazy". I dont, they dont seem so kool to me.
I come from Canada and I was a big arcade fan back in 97-98 (I'm still an arcade fan today but since I own one, I don't waste quarters, I pay 200$ <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">) and I've never seen a NGM with a KOF in it. Seems like Capcom rules here... Too bad. Some people don't know what they are missing or don't care
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I live in Austin, Texas and I (and I'm sure several others) can vouch for that. There is maybe one arcade here that has any SNK games at all (PowerPlay), and that is not counting Capcom vs. SNK. Capcom must have had better marketing in the beginning, I guess. I try to get my friends to play KOF and they either say "KOF? What's that?" or "KOF? That sucks." SNK never got much respect in the US.
whoa even canada dont give respect to snk?
yeah youre right. people these days dont know what they are missing.
even capcom vs snk, everytime i see it, everyone is picking an all shoto team which enfurates me. luckily, terry was the only snk character to be picked alot in my area.
see, i hate big arcades becuz they would rather put a DDR machine or those ticket games instead of true fighting games like KOF or MOTW. i guess they care more about revenue than the demand from customers.
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Can't be as worse as the UK. Practically 90% of the population hate 2D games...instead they button-bash their way on their "cool" games like Tekken and DOA...nothing wrong with that...what annoys me is they don't even bother to learn the moves, and if they win, they think they're good.
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Over here in Durham, NC, we've got a couple of arcades with KOF games, but like you say, 9 outta 10 will be playing some other crappy game. On the plus side though, over here, in Capcom vs. SNK, alot of the players choose a bunch of the SNK characters. It makes me proud... <IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0">.
well just a couple of days ago, i was practicing some KOF 2000 and then two little kids would come up to me and challenge me. i practiced some cheapo stuff w/ jhun on them like if they were actual worthy human opponents. becuz face it, here in san diego, CA. the only human opponents ill be getting outside of my school's arcade and my school's KOF circle are nothing but mere button mashing kids.
as for capcom vs snk, i wipe the floor out of every shoto team i faced so far with terry, rock, and orochi iori.
as for capcom vs snk, i wipe the floor out of every shoto team i faced so far with terry, rock, and orochi iori.
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Yeah, Durham's got a lot of oldschool SNK players. Tilt at South Square Mall got SS2 the day it came out, and I was over there playing it (SS is my favorite SNK series, man, that was years ago). Too bad they got rid of that MVS they had for such a long time, I miss being able to play SS4 and RB2. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
That's weird that it's not very popular in the US or Canada, because from what I've been told, it's very big in Mexico--so big that they actually have BG's based in Mexico, and two characters from that region (to put that into perspective, I know of only one other game series with Mexican characters--Tekken)--Ramon and Angel.
Personally, in regard to MK, I think the series peaked at MK2. Mainly because it had Jax, one of the coolest characters ever in a MK game (The guy did the Riki-Oh head squash... he 0wnZ j00 by default <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">). Then, it just got worse with lazy character design than any Capcom game can ever be accused of being (5 karate characters? Try a grand total of 14 ninjas in Mortal Kombat Trilogy). If it had been a 3D game, the block button would have made more sense, as the changing camera angle would make determining which direction is "back" nearly impossible.
Then again, every fighting game series seems to peak at 2. It's the Rule of Twos. The Rule of Threes, of course, is that most of the cast from the previous one is scuttled in favor of "new blood." Exceptions: MK3, SFA3
Personally, in regard to MK, I think the series peaked at MK2. Mainly because it had Jax, one of the coolest characters ever in a MK game (The guy did the Riki-Oh head squash... he 0wnZ j00 by default <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">). Then, it just got worse with lazy character design than any Capcom game can ever be accused of being (5 karate characters? Try a grand total of 14 ninjas in Mortal Kombat Trilogy). If it had been a 3D game, the block button would have made more sense, as the changing camera angle would make determining which direction is "back" nearly impossible.
Then again, every fighting game series seems to peak at 2. It's the Rule of Twos. The Rule of Threes, of course, is that most of the cast from the previous one is scuttled in favor of "new blood." Exceptions: MK3, SFA3
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Basically its because you just can't find an MVS just anywhere. People just wanna put shooting games and driving games in their arcade and leave out the fighters especially SNK fighters. I blame Arcade vendors for it and some of it is SNK's fault for not really advertising things but most of the blame goes on Arcade vendors.
When i go to the arcade i ask people "do you play KOF" and usually they are like "oh you mean that SNK game with Kyo in it" They hardly know anything about it except for Kyo. Majority of the people only started to hear of SNK after Capcom vs SNK which is a damn shame.
I hate that SNK doesn't get resepect and attention that it deserves in the US. Outside of my group of friends I've met 2 people so far in my area that are good at KOF only 2 freakin people. Its just a damn shame.
I think the only SNK game that recently got alot of praise in the US is Mark of the Wolves because of how good it looks. Too many people are freakin Graphics Whores and won't touch anything unless it is real "pretty lookin".
I know this is already kind of a long kind of post but get this. One day I was teaching my friend how to use Kyo with a Joystick in Capcom vs SNK right, Then i came to the conclusion that its pointless to teach him how to use kyo on a game where he is barely half his strength so I suggested that we put in my KOF 98(KOF DM 99) so I could teach him how to use him properly and then my friend says this "no, i wanna stay on this cuz it has real nice lookin lights" then he says "i know you gotta have all the moves but you have to have good graphics too, i like the real lights". When he says "real lights" he is refering to the light effects of Naomi hardware and it pisses me off everytime he says "real Lights" cuz it reminds me of how much of a shallow ass graphics whore he is. He'd sacrifice good gameplay at the expense of a pretty light show, how shallow. Right when I bought Mark of the wolves and he saw Kain and Rock's win pose the first thing he says is "wow, do they use real lights on this game" and it pissed me off when he said that to the point of where I wanted to beat his ass.
We have to face it, majority of gamers are plain and simply graphics whores and they can't accept the MVS's graphics cuz they are so shallow.
[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: SPINMASTER X ]
[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: SPINMASTER X ]
When i go to the arcade i ask people "do you play KOF" and usually they are like "oh you mean that SNK game with Kyo in it" They hardly know anything about it except for Kyo. Majority of the people only started to hear of SNK after Capcom vs SNK which is a damn shame.
I hate that SNK doesn't get resepect and attention that it deserves in the US. Outside of my group of friends I've met 2 people so far in my area that are good at KOF only 2 freakin people. Its just a damn shame.
I think the only SNK game that recently got alot of praise in the US is Mark of the Wolves because of how good it looks. Too many people are freakin Graphics Whores and won't touch anything unless it is real "pretty lookin".
I know this is already kind of a long kind of post but get this. One day I was teaching my friend how to use Kyo with a Joystick in Capcom vs SNK right, Then i came to the conclusion that its pointless to teach him how to use kyo on a game where he is barely half his strength so I suggested that we put in my KOF 98(KOF DM 99) so I could teach him how to use him properly and then my friend says this "no, i wanna stay on this cuz it has real nice lookin lights" then he says "i know you gotta have all the moves but you have to have good graphics too, i like the real lights". When he says "real lights" he is refering to the light effects of Naomi hardware and it pisses me off everytime he says "real Lights" cuz it reminds me of how much of a shallow ass graphics whore he is. He'd sacrifice good gameplay at the expense of a pretty light show, how shallow. Right when I bought Mark of the wolves and he saw Kain and Rock's win pose the first thing he says is "wow, do they use real lights on this game" and it pissed me off when he said that to the point of where I wanted to beat his ass.
We have to face it, majority of gamers are plain and simply graphics whores and they can't accept the MVS's graphics cuz they are so shallow.
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[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: SPINMASTER X ]
People gotta realize that even though it doesn't have the best GFX, the Neo still friggin ROCKS! MOTW is awesome, and so are the new KOF's! I swear the fighing games that we get now (Tekken and the like) can't compare to the 2D fighters gameplay wise. I just like the 2D ones better. Nothing can compare in terms of strategy and gameplay.
I like graphics as much as the next guy and I wish I could get a KOF with GGX style graphics (take that Neobuyer! j/k <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0"> ), but I'll take what ever version I can get of it because it just plain kicks ass when you play it! Unfortuneately it's a lot easier to get quarters with graphics than with gameplay. Tis a shame.
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man, why cant we all just get along?
when i was in the philippines around this time last year, a shit load of people were swarming KOF 2000 machines like bees to honey. the marvel vs capcom 2 only had one or two people in it.
when i came back from my trip. i went to an arcade a few days later, and it was the other way around. a shit load of people around the marvel vs capcom 2 and hardly no one at a brand new KOF 2000 machine that had a sign saying, brand new!! <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0">
why why???
when i was in the philippines around this time last year, a shit load of people were swarming KOF 2000 machines like bees to honey. the marvel vs capcom 2 only had one or two people in it.
when i came back from my trip. i went to an arcade a few days later, and it was the other way around. a shit load of people around the marvel vs capcom 2 and hardly no one at a brand new KOF 2000 machine that had a sign saying, brand new!! <IMG SRC="smilies/mad2.gif" border="0">
why why???
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I don't mean to sway off topic or nuthing but I just participated in the National Tekken 4 Ttournament 2 days ago(yes the big namco sponsered one) and trust me the Tekken series is very strategic and tactical. I play every fighting game from King of Fighters to Virtua Fighter and the only fighting game that lacks in the depth and stratgy department is Dead or Alive everything else is A-OK. Virtua Fighter is the Deepest Fighting game created(proven fact) and it happens to be a 3d fighter. In my group of friends I'm the 3rd best KOF player and the top 2 KOF players out of my friends are also extrememly good Tekken players. Now if a KOF player can see that a game like Tekken has Depth then i'm pretty sure it does. Now if you like 2d better than 3d then that is all good but don't push off 3d fighters as shallow games cuz in truth Virtua Fighter and Tekken offer more depth than 2d fighters(cuz 3d offers more moves, more options etc) and there is no fighting game that can Top Virtua Fighter's Strategy and gameplay.
Don't look at this a knock on 2d cuz I have no bias when it comes to 2d and 3d, i'm no fanboy I like all fighting games. It seems every forum I go to people make assumptions that 2d fighters are all the same(yeah right like KOF and MvC2 are the same) or that 3d fighters are all button mashers(when in actuallity there is only 2 button mashing friendly 3d fighters and neither of them is Tekken). I just had to clear up that those assumptions are very wrong, very very wrong. Now back to the topic at hand, i've ranted long enough.
