Who you going to vote for between Trump and Hillary?

[Jibbajaba]

I've often wondered why we don't embrace large-scale New Deal type of programs for the unemployed and immigrant communities. Rather than handout programs that result in zero work, zero motivation and satisfaction for the person receiving the assistance, and for every person in genuine need - we see someone abusing the system - put the folks to work on interstate transportation or similar projects. There is no reason everyone who wants to work (and is able to work) isn't able to be offered work - the money is already there, why not put it toward something productive. It's a win-win-win. The workers have sense of accomplishment, the taxpayers paying for the work see results, and unemployment is gone (as are the byproducts of those with too much idle time).

Of course there are some who simply can't work due to medical condition - that is a separate issue entirely.

I've been saying this for a while. If he government is handing out money, it might as well get something in return. It's better for the government, better for us, and better for the people that it helps. There is not now, nor will there ever be, a shortage of things that need to get done in this country. From fixing roads and bridges, to fixing sidewalks, to forestry work, to cleaning the sides of highways, the list goes on. I live in an old neighborhood, and a lot of the sidewalks are stamped with the date (sometime in the 20's or early 30's) along with whatever New Deal program built it. Pretty cool, and it would be nice to see that kind of stuff again. Honestly, I think it's a source of posthumous pride for both the people who built them, and the people who created and ran the programs.

 

[Lagduf]

That is life. Fuck compassion when it comes to swarms of uneducated savages coming by the thousands. Not to integrate but to make their mini communities in OUR countries and live by their OLD ways.
They don't show even a tat of ambition to change their ways and become a decent part of society. Other middle eastern countries don't even want them.
Why are those so called "refugees" not going to parts of Europe where there is no free stuff and you have to work in order to put food on the table? Why do they swarm ONLY the countries with welfare systems?

Stevenk you are acting like a mindless leftist social justice warrior that doesn't see further than their own nose. Trying to validate and convince yourself that you are a better human being for all the bad reasons.

You've described every group of immigrants ever.

Of course they form communities before reaching broader integration. It takes generations. Are we all such victims of modern technology that we fail to realize there are things which can't be done instantaneously?

 

[Tripredacus]

How do these downtrodden folks violate my rights?

The people don't. The government does as uses those people as the excuse. Currently the media is trying really hard to make the citizenry demand their own rights removal.

 

[LWK]

Trump is tightening up on his stupidity and giving more solid speeches. Yesterday was not bad.

 

[GohanX]

If he could get over his own ego and actually listen to his campaign advisors he will win this thing. I don't think that's going to happen though, a lifetime of narcissism is difficult to overcome.

 

[lithy]

I've often wondered why we don't embrace large-scale New Deal type of programs for the unemployed and immigrant communities. Rather than handout programs that result in zero work, zero motivation and satisfaction for the person receiving the assistance, and for every person in genuine need - we see someone abusing the system - put the folks to work on interstate transportation or similar projects. There is no reason everyone who wants to work (and is able to work) isn't able to be offered work - the money is already there, why not put it toward something productive. It's a win-win-win. The workers have sense of accomplishment, the taxpayers paying for the work see results, and unemployment is gone (as are the byproducts of those with too much idle time).

Of course there are some who simply can't work due to medical condition - that is a separate issue entirely.

Government programs and regulations already skew the market enough making low skill work less available and more costly than it needs to be.

Then there is total nonsense like the recent news story about defective military helmets is an example. Built by prison labor, so we spend tax money to build (or more often fund via private prisons), spend tax money to convict people, and then spend tax money to buy products made by prisoners.

The way to get more people working is to remove the incentives to not work and restrictions on a free exchange of labor.

Of course, some will always be poor. It is not a system where everyone has value. It should however, benefit more peope more broadly than the shitshow we have now.

Personally, I am waiting for the day the country gets dumb enough to award a guaranteed minimum income and I quit my job the next day.

 

[tacoguy]

If he could get over his own ego and actually listen to his campaign advisors he will win this thing. I don't think that's going to happen though, a lifetime of narcissism is difficult to overcome.

You know whats the sad part, to me, Donald Trump is a more likable person than Hillary Clinton. Donald the man that uses the platform of hate and racism, says the stupidest crap, and the man who made money by cheating out the people that worked for him. Fuck Donald and Fuck Hillary. This has easily got to be the worst election cycle that I can remember. Even worst than Bush/Kerry and Obama/Romney.

 

[hyper]

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING LINK CONTAINS SPACIALLY UN-SAFE MACRO ANTI-AGGRESSIVE ENDO-TRIGGER MASONIC ALIEN KNOWLEDGE OF THE ANCIENTS.

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Spoiler:

 

[100proof]

You know whats the sad part, to me, Donald Trump is a more likable person than Hillary Clinton. Donald the man that uses the platform of hate and racism, says the stupidest crap, and the man who made money by cheating out the people that worked for him. Fuck Donald and Fuck Hillary. This has easily got to be the worst election cycle that I can remember. Even worst than Bush/Kerry and Obama/Romney.

See I feel completely the opposite. The conservatives could've propped up any remotely competent politician this year and likely cruised in to the White House. A lot of libs hate Hillary for being slimy, crooked and a chickenhawk. Conservatives have hated her with a fiery passion for 25 years so getting them out to vote would've been easy. Yet here we are 10 weeks before the election with her leading in every state that matters because conservatives didn't realize until it was much too late that a cartoon character who appealed to the basest of their base could gather just enough votes in the primaries to ruin their easy slam dunk and move the American political system in to all new levels of farce.

Seriously, fuck the Donald and fuck the idiots who voted for him for making Hillary the sane, rational option.

 

[evil wasabi]

Fuck the GOP for assembling the largest collection of undesirable 3 dollar bills. Rubio, Cruz, Kasich - they are fucking sucked. Can you imagine even being alone in a room with Kasich? It would smell of mildew and mothballs. Did he work in a morgue? Does he still live in one?

The GOP somehow determined a line of Ascension and that's where the failure becomes most apparent. This wasn't Cruz's turn. It wasn't Rubio's. They could have gone after so many other more likable candidates. They could have tapped Huntsman and he'd be like "ok, let's do this!"

Running against the DNC is hard because they control the NYT and CNN and the stories they focus on and the stories they obscure shape the thinking of the population moreso than any other media outlets. I don't think Trump made himself so popular as much as CNN did. So Fuck CNN too. Fuck them all in the ass until their souls leave their bodies.

 

[ki_atsushi]

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IF ALUMINUM FOIL IS IN SHORT SUPPLY JUST WRAP YOUR ENTIRE HEAD IN DUCT TAPE AND APPLY A PINCH OF TABLE SALE TO THE INTERIOR OF YOUR LEFT SHOE WITH YOUR CHAKRA POINTED 26 DEGREES NORTH-WEST.

Spoiler:

Drew Pinsky is a lol-worthy fucking quack.

That being said, Hillary has used "health issues" to skate out of being interrogated by the feds on numerous occasions (I mean like literally the day before or same day she magically has a health issue), so it's no surprise that her doctors haven't really treated her "conditions" correctly. Can you say cover-up?

 

[tacoguy]

That's what it feels like as if he was put in to make Hillary a sane option. When in fact she will most likely keep the country going the same course it has been just like Obama and Bush before her.

 

[BIG BEAR]

All bullsh8t aside,the Constitutional conservative has only one logical choice. The 2nd amendment protects the 1st amendment.
The Republican (RINO?) majority Congress was responsible for the rise of DT.
BB

 

[100proof]

Fuck the GOP for assembling the largest collection of undesirable 3 dollar bills. Rubio, Cruz, Kasich - they are fucking sucked. Can you imagine even being alone in a room with Kasich? It would smell of mildew and mothballs. Did he work in a morgue? Does he still live in one?

Yeah, I glossed over how limp the rest of the field was. That said, I would've taken Kasich 10 times out of 10 over Trump and America would've gladly voted for him over Hillary.

Running against the DNC is hard because they control the NYT and CNN and the stories they focus on and the stories they obscure shape the thinking of the population moreso than any other media outlets. I don't think Trump made himself so popular as much as CNN did. So Fuck CNN too. Fuck them all in the ass until their souls leave their bodies.

Perhaps but if anything, CNN and its ilk spent most of the time talking about what a shitshow Trump was. Unless you think they pulled some master-level reverse psychology by tricking the virulent end of the conservative base in to backing Trump solely on the basis that CNN thinks he's an asshole, I don't really blame them. Trump IS an asshole and, in all likelihood, an undiagnosed sociopath. Though that's hardly unique for an aspiring politician.

More likely, Trump just took advantage of the media's natural bias towards sensationalism and controversy. Now whether you think he did so purposefully because he's some master manipulator or he just fell in to it because he's a buffoon with a big mouth and no filter is up to you.

 

[GohanX]

Now whether you think he did so purposefully because he's some master manipulator or he just fell in to it because he's a buffoon with a big mouth and no filter is up to you.

A little bit from column A, and lot from column B.

 

[hyper]

1 outta 50 ain't bad

 

[Tanooki]

If he could get over his own ego and actually listen to his campaign advisors he will win this thing. I don't think that's going to happen though, a lifetime of narcissism is difficult to overcome.

He may have just done that in the last 24-48 hours which is kind of shocking. Things seem to have changed and towards he positive for the crazy egomaniac. He is now starting to stay on script and actually use a teleprompter. He has hired a new campaign lead (Bannon the CEO of Breitbart) and put that douche Manafort out to pasture (gee did he Apprentice 'youre fired!' him behind closed doors and let him 'quit?') starting to speak more positively on the right stuff, negatively of hillary in good ways that can/could stick, and he's even kind of upstaged/embarrassed obama and clinton going down to Louisiana. He shows up, says he'll help out and wants to see them through their suffering(yeah campaign bs) but he did it...Obama wouldn't, and Clinton was maybe next week...now suddenly Obama is going down there asap instead of ignoring things on vacation(which is often for him.) The press of course will blow it over as obama caring while it's really the fact he got shamed into it.

I'm not pro-Trump, fuck both those clowns, but I'm not blind to the fact if he can stay focused and not slip into being a twat again rambling off script on stage or twitter, he could mount a comeback.

 

[evil wasabi]

Yeah, I glossed over how limp the rest of the field was. That said, I would've taken Kasich 10 times out of 10 over Trump and America would've gladly voted for him over Hillary.



Perhaps but if anything, CNN and its ilk spent most of the time talking about what a shitshow Trump was. Unless you think they pulled some master-level reverse psychology by tricking the virulent end of the conservative base in to backing Trump solely on the basis that CNN thinks he's an asshole, I don't really blame them. Trump IS an asshole and, in all likelihood, an undiagnosed sociopath. Though that's hardly unique for an aspiring politician.

More likely, Trump just took advantage of the media's natural bias towards sensationalism and controversy. Now whether you think he did so purposefully because he's some master manipulator or he just fell in to it because he's a buffoon with a big mouth and no filter is up to you.

Actually that is what I was getting at. Liberals have a knee jerk reaction to anything Foxnews, yet Foxnews occasionally reports some issues that are real. Occasionally. On the flip side, conservatives don't take CNN seriously because it's completely sensationalized. People are groomed to side with the parties, rather than logic. The result is crap like the Daily Shitshow, which is some fake black fake comedian fake newscaster helping liberals feel superior to other Americans who they are taught to disagree with, without dialogue. John Oliver is the same kind of moron, except it's hard to take seriously a guy with an English accent bitch about American politics, and even more difficult when you consider that he doesn't even know what he's talking about, and his writers do all his thinking for him. He's just a delivery man; and without his writers he'd be delivering pizzas instead.

Somehow a large chunk of the moderates in the middle are left without a new channel. Maybe this is a good thing.

 

[oliverclaude]

Somehow a large chunk of the moderates in the middle are left without a new channel.

...and without a new candidate. They should quit social media then, come for the games & stay for the politics here. Let moderate be the new guerrilla.

 

[Poonman]

John Oliver is the same kind of moron.

IT'S 2016, PEOPLE: if you aren't man enough to prep a black guys cock for your wife while in full drag, you are LITERALLY HITLER.

 

[hyper]

just playing through, I'll be out of your way in sec..

Spoiler:

 

[LWK]

I'm voting trump, so make that 38. I've turned away from Hillary. She's taking in to many unvetted migrants and is just gonna be a sequel to Merkel. Funny enough, I made this comparison and Trump did the same exact thing. He needs to stay on the issues, last three speeches were a complete 180 from his usual stupid bullshit. If he keeps this up, and keeps attacking the extreme corruption from the left, he has a good chance I feel.

 

[evil wasabi]

IT'S 2016, PEOPLE: if you aren't man enough to prep a black guys cock for your wife while in full drag, you are LITERALLY HITLER.

I made the mistake of comparing Trump to Hitler, ignoring the fact that Hitler was a socialist, who rose to power promising socialist policies, and in power he ran a shadow government that rounded up his political opposition (the conservatives), and had them killed.

 

[Montatez]

just playing through, I'll be out of your way in sec..

Spoiler:

Back from vaca and this literally describes what I come back to! Lmao!

 

[wyo]

Maybe Trump's new team can do a better job of covering up the crazy. Then he would be like the presidential candidate in Stephen King's The Dead Zone.