Who is the most LETHAL/USELESS boss in HUMAN hands?

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Hi, I'm new here <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Anyway you know that SNK bosses are always cheap to some extent, having special moves that overpower other characters moves, and generally being a real pain in the neck. Of course the CPU plays bosses REALLY cheaply, but most of the time the CPU doesn't ultilize that boss characters moves fully. So therefore a human player can use the bosses cheapness to the MAX <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
The only boss which the CPU used to the MAX was Goenitz from KOF'96 - the CPU totally abused his Command Throw - using it ALL the time if you got close to him, something I don't think human players could do it in split-second reaction time, as its a full HCBx2 + D!!
Bosses are generally not playable in arcades unless you change some Dipswitch settings or train an emulator version.
So who is the most effective boss in human hands? I personally would go for Orochi from KOF'97...the CPU used him like a total dickhead, but Orochi just cannot be beaten in human hands, simply because of his Heaven Light Super and those damaging Black Discs he chucks at you.
Zero from KOF'00 was the most useless boss to use I reckon, as his moves simply take too long to recover. Only good thing hes got is his Black Hole and his Standing D.
Rememeber any boss you wish!
 

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Worst boss in CPU's hand: Omega Rugal in 98'. Can you say "GENOCIDE... CUTTER!" <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Anytime you get close to him he uses that or his friggin' electric ball move.
Crap boss in player's hand: Krizalid. Anytime I go up against one of my friends who thinks they can get me with a boss character, they choose him and die quickly. (Except for that overhead move that looks suspiciously like a hand version of... "GENOCIDE CUTTER!") <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">
 
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Crap boss in player's hand: Krizalid. Anytime I go up against one of my friends who thinks they can get me with a boss character, they choose him and die quickly. (Except for that overhead move that looks suspiciously like a hand version of... "GENOCIDE CUTTER!")

Heh are you sure that Krizalid's the most "crap" boss to use? Cause when I use him hes totally lethal...he has an easy infinite, an almost-invincible anti-air, Beat-You-Up DM that can be comboed with anything, chip damage off his Tornado...and of course *drum roll* theres his Lift Up Axe Kick move which is, quite frankly, SICK...lol
 

SrWilson

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I would have to say Krizalid is the best one ive used too on a KOF game but that could change soon with Igniz on KOF2001 hehehehe.
 

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LoL,yes it has got to be krizalid who would be lethal in the hands of the human player.He has a very easy to do infinite and that abusable typhoon move.For the CPU its omega rugal(94' version).

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"I would have to say Krizalid is the best one ive used too on a KOF game but that could change soon with Igniz on KOF2001 hehehehe."

Heh I'm still dying to see what Original-Zero is like in human hands, never mind Igniz. From what I've heard, when compared to Zero'00, O-Zero has faster recovery in his cape moves and a striker that is unblockable. You never know he could turn out to be one of the most useful bosses to use, unlike Zero'00, who was soooo slow recovering lol
 
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I will say that Goenitz is the man on the right hands he will kill any opponent in a snap! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> and the cpu is almost impossible to beat in level 9 <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
 
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Originally posted by Orochi_Shakira:
<STRONG>I will say that Goenitz is the man on the right hands he will kill any opponent in a snap! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> and the cpu is almost impossible to beat in level 9 <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Goenitz is of course pretty lethal in the right hands, mostly due to the massive amount of damage he dishes out. Also another major, and I mean major advantage hes got is the fact that hes got INFINITE DM's. Also there is no recovery time if his QCB,HCF+C is blocked, so theres no risk. However as far as his tornados goes, maybe they aren't as useful as the CPU uses...because the CPU has the "cheating" reflexes (like S-Akuma from SFA2) he can always put the tornados at the right place that'll get you...human players on the other hand will have to predict.
CPU Level 9? I thought it went up to 8... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
But CPU Goenitz is fairly easy as long as you know how to do it...I'll be brief: Any character with projectile/half-projectile (Mai's the best). Stay far away. Throw Light Projectile. Goenitz uses Ground Teleport. He recovers - Throw Him. Repeat. You win. <IMG SRC="smilies/drool2.gif" border="0">
 

FINAL SHOWDOWN

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yeah uh....its definitly krizalid....umm...hp,hcb+hp, hp, hcb+hp.........yeah .....

omega rugal isnt that bad the only thing that bad about him is his hcb+k move....other than that if you play as him (and considering your opponent knows what he is doing) you actullay have to time some of your moves as they have weakness.
 

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lethal cpu boss: omega rugal 98, goenitz, and shin gouki

worse cpu boss: geese howard (FF1), krizalid, zero, and omega rugal
 

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bastard god rugal,omega rugal
orochi

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krizalid,o.rugal
 

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LETHAL: Rugai, when the computer uses him. I agree on the fact that the Genodice Cutter move is a real pain in the ass. Rugai will use it everytime you walk too close to him. I'd say he is not lethal but endearingly annoying. As a comparison, I can beat the hell out of Zero or Krysalid without any problem, whereas Rugai still makes loose my temper.

I'd say the Omega Rugai is fun to use though. Because of his over-powered moves. You can quickly and neatly defeat an opponent.

USELESS: I'd say Zero. I don't like him at all: his clothes, his attitude, his moves... That's very subjective, I know, but I think that Krysalid has more class. Plus, that silly moustache, oh God... We're playing KOF, the KOVillagePeople. -hahaha, joke, no offense in my words-

-Tadaima-
 
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Originally posted by Tadaima:
<STRONG>USELESS: I'd say Zero. I don't like him at all: his clothes, his attitude, his moves... That's very subjective, I know, but I think that Krysalid has more class. Plus, that silly moustache, oh God... We're playing KOF, the KOVillagePeople. -hahaha, joke, no offense in my words-</STRONG>

Not to mention that we're not watching Tom Sellic or Burt Renolds...
Oh yeah and Krizalid OWNZ!
 

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Originally posted by Orochi_Shakira:
<STRONG>I will say that Goenitz is the man on the right hands he will kill any opponent in a snap! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> and the cpu is almost impossible to beat in level 9 <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Hey Shakira. Nice to see another Austin Texas gamer. Heh. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Goenitz,Omegal Rugal and Krizalid have over-powered tecnics beatable,the teleport of Rugal,98 have knocked and his projectile attack can be knocked by the Maiden Maisher so the best form to discovered the most lethal boss in human hands is play a survive and pass it (32 characters ,least)
 
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In human hands I say Nightmare Geese from RB Special rules!

CPU.....Don´t know!
 

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I am THE Krauser user in any FF.

I am that good with myself <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by KRIZALID'99v2:
<STRONG>Not to mention that we're not watching Tom Sellic or Burt Renolds...
Oh yeah and Krizalid OWNZ!</STRONG>

In regards to your sig, you would not know if you owned Krauser, we have yet to meet in a fight!
Considering Igniz is literally Krizalid's god, he cannot beat him.
 

Stephane

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mmm The most lethal, well for me that s Miyamoto Musashi in last blade, really a strong and good character <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Musashi rulez <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Originally posted by Stephane:
<STRONG>mmm The most lethal, well for me that s Miyamoto Musashi in last blade, really a strong and good character <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Musashi rulez <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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The name is Akatsuki Musashi and not Miyamoto!
 

Stephane

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Originally posted by the_move:
<STRONG>--------------------------------------------

The name is Akatsuki Musashi and not Miyamoto!</STRONG>


oh

well the real musashi was miyamoto musashi <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> my bad
 
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Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
<STRONG>In regards to your sig, you would not know if you owned Krauser, we have yet to meet in a fight!
Considering Igniz is literally Krizalid's god, he cannot beat him.</STRONG>

lol...KRIZALID ownz!! Too right we have yet to meet...and that is the day I'll chisel your gravestone...sleep well...lol <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Igniz...Maybe CPU Krizalid can't beat him...but human-hands...heh heh we'll see, we'll see...
 

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Originally posted by Stephane:
<STRONG>mmm The most lethal, well for me that s Miyamoto Musashi in last blade, really a strong and good character <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Musashi rulez <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Yeah Musashi owns but he still not the greatest boss...
 

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Basically it all comes down to this. Clark and Kevin Rian own every last one of those bosses. Ph34r military style grapplers!!!!
 
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