When Neo-Geo exists no more......

Setherial

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So I have read some threads recently regarding the fact that these games will eventually stop working just because of the way they were built. Now here's the question. Will any of these games be worth anything then they do not work anymore? Does anybody wonder that after the thousands if not hundreds of thousands spent on these games and some putting them in a collection, that one day they won't work and could be worthless?
I think most of us are dead when they stop working.
 

SNK416

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Whats the best way to clean the contacts? Ive read a few, dry qtip, eraser, alcohol tip etc? Whats your method?
 

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Whats the best way to clean the contacts? Ive read a few, dry qtip, eraser, alcohol tip etc? Whats your method?

Deoxit contact cleaner and a qtip.
 
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HeavyMachineGoob

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An eraser is sometimes decent at cleaning cartridge connectors, but it depends on what sort of dirt is being dealt with. The only issue with an eraser is you have to disassemble the cartridge.

Does one have to disassemble the cartridge to use Deoxit? Can that stuff wreck plastic?
 

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Does one have to disassemble the cartridge to use Deoxit? Can that stuff wreck plastic?
No, you can get the edges clean with only cotton swabs. And the plastic never suffers when I use it.
 

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Every video game system and/or game will die eventually. Take for example the rare and very collectable Pioneer Laseractive. Pretty much all of the cartridges for that unit are either dead or dying unless they have been completely recapped. Fortunately, its the caps that usually die first and the neo geo stuff has really very few capacitors. Compared to other games and game systems, the neo stuff lasts much longer.
 

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Why would roms stop working? Maybe in 100 years but look at all the old Jammas from the early 80's (which on top of that were often mistreatet like shit). Still working. Only thing could be this custom chip but again why would an ASIC (?) die? It is hard wired transistors.

And if roms would die simply download them, flash the new blank chips, done:)


Edit: ...also changing through hole PCB chip stuff isn' that hard.

I think (and hope) that this machine is built on ...at least not consumer crap level.

@ TLH

Hmm, my MVS1-? has quite some caps but no prbs with that, infact I can't remember ever having bad caps on any console/AC PCB.
And if some die replacement will be easy.

Let's look on some other really annoying "goodies" like CPS2 and 1 boards with their battery/kill crap? Oh and Sega aswell, with many if not all System16 and 18 PCBs. That's not the way to preserve your milestones in VG history.
So NG will be fine;)
 
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Every video game system and/or game will die eventually. Take for example the rare and very collectable Pioneer Laseractive. Pretty much all of the cartridges for that unit are either dead or dying unless they have been completely recapped. Fortunately, its the caps that usually die first and the neo geo stuff has really very few capacitors. Compared to other games and game systems, the neo stuff lasts much longer.

In my experience with the LaserActive, the transport motor for the laser or the one that spins the disc are more likely to go first before the caps do. The PACs that I have now are going without ever being re-capped.
 

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The real question is will anyone care about these games after all of us who grew up with them are gone?
 

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I don't believe these (physical) artifacts will wither from our collective memories that easily (although I can see a serious price correction happening in some cases).

Look at old stamps. It's not like they lost their collectibility (even though it can easily be argued they are now obsolete due to inflation / digital communication). Or early vinyl records. Or old movies.

Video games may be a relatively young art form, I'm pretty sure it's (early) highlights will still be treated with respect years from now.
 

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In my experience with the LaserActive, the transport motor for the laser or the one that spins the disc are more likely to go first before the caps do. The PACs that I have now are going without ever being re-capped.

Not sure if I'm reading that right, but are your PACs not recapped? They have to be recapped, or the caps will leak and destroy the boards. BlueBMW has provided a lot of information about them in the past.
 

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Exactly; OP obviously not a big tymer.

Might not be a "Big Tymer" but I have many rare carts that I would hope just don't stop working. Especially my English and Jap versions of MSX.It would be ashamed for a 15k+ collection to go down the tubes.
 

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Might not be a "Big Tymer" but I have many rare carts that I would hope just don't stop working. Especially my English and Jap versions of MSX.It would be ashamed for a 15k+ collection to go down the tubes.

Don't worry, upper crust collectors never have any intention of playing $1000+ games. Don't tell them the carts don't work and nobody will know.
 

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Just encase those in VGA graded acrylic cases and no one would even dare thinking of taking it out to try if it works. XD
 

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Don't worry, upper crust collectors never have any intention of playing $1000+ games. Don't tell them the carts don't work and nobody will know.

Hahaha! You know, there is truth to that! There has got to be people out there who just buy them to sit on shelves so they can boast they have the physical game. All the while, they never even take into account that what they bought could be just a non working cart and they just dropped over $1k for it. So they sit around clamoring about how the have this awesome collection of games that are worth so much money, but wouldn't dare play it because of the value.
 

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chrd made a good point when he speculated that the "collectibility" of homecarts might not even be related to the playability...


Hmm, my MVS1-? has quite some caps but no prbs with that
Hey look, it's a powerfolwer post! More to the point: You did replace the battery though I hope. And replacing the cabs in the audio section of MVS boards can boost the sound quality a lot... so it might be worth to think about doing that at some point.
 

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Hmm, it's been a long time I powered up my MVS. At least the battery is not leaking. But yeah, maybe I should do my MVS a treat.

About the caps in audio section...should be worth it, thx for that.

I always stored my PCBs/consoles and stuff at room temp./humidity maybe that's why they're fine until this day.
 
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An ASIC which includes the whole Neo (no emulation) with proper I/O and RGB/15KHz CRT and HD/Scanlines would be very nice dear SNKP:)
 
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