What's this about a black kid being shot again

[smokehouse]

White privilege exists. That's all I'm saying.

Sure...it does...but so does all other kinds of privilege. Black, white, Asian, Native American, wealthy, female, male...it just depends on where/who you are.

What burns my ass is "white privilege" being used as a white exclusive and something ALL white people get. Which we don't.

Just being white does not get me into some exclusive and all encompassing club that makes my fucking life so much easier than others...bullshit. This is simply not the case...

 

[wonamik]

White privilege exists. That's all I'm saying.

So does non-white privlege.

here is a few example:
Non-swedish people that just immigrated to Sweden can get 80% of the salary paid by the gouverment to try to get companies to hire them instead of Swedes.
All people in Sweden are protected in the hate-crime law, EXCEPT SWEDES. (try to make sense of that one)
In Sweden ILLEGAL immigrants gets FREE health and dental care while we have over 70000 Swedes that have to live with bad teeth because they cant afford to fix them.

Thats a few REAL examples of priveleges.

 

[norton9478]

How differently would the Rodney King event been taken had a cop just shot him in the head vs a bunch of them kicking the shit out of him? I'm guessing FAR better had they just shot his ass.

Better for the cops, for sure.

I'll just offer my two cents' worth of advice on dealing with cops. I'm not going to get into how it should be, because that's just mental masturbation and reality doesn't care.

DON'T GIVE THEM ATTITUDE.

Bad advice, my experience is that cops will walk all over you if they can. If they give you shit (and only if they give you shit), you have to stand up for yourself and give them shit back. If you act a house slave, they will treat you like one.

Of course, I wouldn't recomend this strategy in the deep south, NYC, LA or any other place where cops can run wild on everybody.

Its because the term "white privelege" is politically correct BS invented to make white people feel "white guilt" and stir up hate against whites.
And I get pissed off cuz I grow up as a white minority in my own country and had to face so much fucking hate on a dailty basis from immigrants,
and then you come home and turn on the TV and you get these politically correct people talking how privledge, racist and evil whites are.

Immigrants could call us Swedes "svenne jävel" or "svenne hora" which are extremly offensive terms, and NO ONE would react, but if you ever said
anything back on the same level then all hell breaks lose. Where is the privlege in that? I dont know how many times I had a knife to my throat and called racist shit in the subway simply for being Swedish, IN SWEDEN!

And there is so much more I could bring up but I am gonna leave it at that.

So does non-white privlege.

here is a few example:
Non-swedish people that just immigrated to Sweden can get 80% of the salary paid by the gouverment to try to get companies to hire them instead of Swedes.
All people in Sweden are protected in the hate-crime law, EXCEPT SWEDES. (try to make sense of that one)
In Sweden ILLEGAL immigrants gets FREE health and dental care while we have over 70000 Swedes that have to live with bad teeth because they cant afford to fix them.

Thats a few REAL examples of priveleges.

SOunds like a bunch of euro-trash right wing bullshit.
Northern Europe's only problem is that it has run on Homogeneity for thousands of years and for the first time, is faced with some real diversity.

 

[wonamik]

Better for the cops, for sure.




Bad advice, my experience is that cops will walk all over you if they can. If they give you shit (and only if they give you shit), you have to stand up for yourself and give them shit back. If you act a house slave, they will treat you like one.

Of course, I wouldn't recomend this strategy in the deep south, NYC, LA or any other place where cops can run wild on everybody.





SOunds like a bunch of euro-trash right wing bullshit.
Northern Europe's only problem is that it has run on Homogeneity for thousands of years and for the first time, is faced with some real diversity.

So pointing out REAL injustice makes it euro-trash right wing bullshit??? makes sense, NOT
Why do you get defensive with these facts? Because they doesnt support your view of the world?

and you say the problem is that we havent had "diversity", well the economy in Sweden wouldnt agree with you (around 50% of our immigrants are on welfare), the crime statistics wouldnt agree with you (around 70% of the prisoners are immigrants from outside Europe).
Sweden was one of the most peaceful nations 30 years ago, now we have the second highest reported rapes in the world and the gettos are burning almost every night.
I grow up in these gettos and it aint nothing to praise or glorify.

 

[brentsg]

Sounds like lots of violence and "heavy gunfire" last night. People arrested from as far away as CA and NY, so all the crazies have arrived, just looking to provoke.

 

[smokehouse]

So does non-white privlege.

here is a few example:
Non-swedish people that just immigrated to Sweden can get 80% of the salary paid by the gouverment to try to get companies to hire them instead of Swedes.
All people in Sweden are protected in the hate-crime law, EXCEPT SWEDES. (try to make sense of that one)
In Sweden ILLEGAL immigrants gets FREE health and dental care while we have over 70000 Swedes that have to live with bad teeth because they cant afford to fix them.

Thats a few REAL examples of priveleges.

This happens everywhere. Here in the US an illegal immigrant can walk into a clinic anywhere, get taken care of and walk out never paying the bill. I get turned into collections if I try to make 3 equal monthly payments of a $1000 medical bill.

Better for the cops, for sure.

The cops were the least of my point...how about those that lost their homes, their belongings or their businesses in the riots? How about people like Reginald Denny?

I don't give a fuck about the cops involved, it is common knowledge around here how much disdain I have towards US law enforcement...I care about the masses that were terrorized because of the beating of that man. Had they simply plugged him in the head...not only would they have possibly ended the riots before they happened...they would have done that scumbag Rodney King a favor and saved him form this:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/rodney-king-autopsy/

Scumbag cops beat a scumbag and thousands suffered because of it...

 

[norton9478]

and you say the problem is that we havent had "diversity", well the economy in Sweden wouldnt agree with you (around 50% of our immigrants are on welfare), the crime statistics wouldnt agree with you (around 70% of the prisoners are immigrants from outside Europe)..

Sounds like a bunch of right wing euro bullshit to me.

PS, I don't have anything against sweeden. My car was made in trollhättan.

 

[ReplicaX]

Sounds like a bunch of right wing euro bullshit to me.

So what do you label the US immigration issues then? As they are far from right wing and pure bullshit.

 

[MySoberCompanion]

Sounds like a bunch of right wing euro bullshit to me.

PS, I don't have anything against sweeden. My car was made in trollhättan.

When was the last time you came in Eurabia?

 

[norton9478]

So what do you label the US immigration issues then? As they are far from right wing and pure bullshit.

Of course they are.

The difference is that we have a long history of immigration and nativist racist bullshit.

 

[ki_atsushi]

The number one reason I have my job is because I'm white and speak English. It doesn't get more privileged than that.

But that's because that's what CHINA wants for it's English teachers.

We're talking America here, bud... so since you're an America hating freak you can crawl back in whatever hole you came out of.

 

[Phyeir]

Of course they are.

The difference is that we have a long history of immigration and nativist racist bullshit.

There's a wide margin between being a racist/nativist in policies and having policies that allow people to come in with no plan beyond crossing a border and being able to enjoy services that those that are paying into the system can't even get to without having to pay even more to enjoy.

 

[LoneSage]

so since you're an America hating freak you can crawl back in whatever hole you came out of.

You are so far gone I have pity for you.

 

[Lemony Vengeance]

The number one reason I have my job is because I'm white and speak English. It doesn't get more privileged than that.

oh look. a Self loathing white male.

Just what the masses like.

 

[LoneSage]

oh look. a Self loathing white male.

Just what the masses like.

There is a big difference between self-loathing and understanding reality. I just call it for what it is.

 

[Fuzzytaco]

Once we finally get rid of all the white people in the world, the problems of xenophobia and racism will all vanish and world peace will finally be a achieved. I'm doing my part, by choosing not to reproduce. White free planet by 2500 AD!

 

[ki_atsushi]

You are so far gone I have pity for you.

So you're saying my analysis of you is wrong?

All your posts about China show a Chinese bias (hell, you even sipped the kool-aid about North Korea )... how else are we to think of you.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and don't tell me it's because you're in China that you're having to speak positively about it (government spying/censorship bullcrap)... because it would be better to say nothing at all than to lie about it, right?

 

[FAT$TACKS]

Once we finally get rid of all the white people in the world, the problems of xenophobia and racism will all vanish and world peace will finally be a achieved. I'm doing my part, by choosing not to reproduce. White free planet by 2500 AD!

 

[smokehouse]

Once we finally get rid of all the white people in the world, the problems of xenophobia and racism will all vanish and world peace will finally be a achieved. I'm doing my part, by choosing not to reproduce. White free planet by 2500 AD!

Hell...with breeding, on a long enough time scale, there really won't be any clear cut race. There really isn't any "pure" bloodlines in the US now...let alone 400+ years from now.

Save albinos...those motherfuckers are white as hell...

 

[brentsg]

Save albinos...those motherfuckers are white as hell...

They are as privileged as it gets.

 

[cannonball]

They are as privileged as it gets.

I bet they could teach English in ANY country they want!

 

[norton9478]

There's a wide margin between being a racist/nativist in policies and having policies that allow people to come in with no plan beyond crossing a border and being able to enjoy services that those that are paying into the system can't even get to without having to pay even more to enjoy.

Services such as?

But anyways, go tell this "difference" to those idiots freaking out over central American children being put up while their refugee status is sorted out.

 

[Phyeir]

There was already a perfect example given by smokehouse above. There is also the public education system, among other services that are already overburdened for the tax payers, the solution isn't to just further burden the system by adding more pressure from sources outside of the system.

My concern with any of these issues comes down to the source of cash vs who it is used on. If the US public tax dollars is being used on anything beyond services FOR the US general public, that's an injustice from a logical standpoint.

And I don't buy this whole refugee thing for a second. Not that Central America doesn't have issues socially and economically, more that this current crisis is created to try and further push through a cheap source of labor for all these crony capitalist companies that just want a cheaper source of labor. Or keep believing that the billionaires pushing for this suddenly have hearts that grew 3 sizes that day.

 

[smokehouse]

They are as privileged as it gets.

Yes.

Following that scale...albinos should be able to damn near rule the world.

You know, what made me think of that in the first place is that I saw a young black albino boy the other day. First black albino I've seen in recent memory.

 

[blotter12]

My concern with any of these issues comes down to the source of cash vs who it is used on. If the US public tax dollars is being used on anything beyond services FOR the US general public, that's an injustice from a logical standpoint.

You are operating under the false assumption that illegal immigrants don't pay taxes. Also, having my neighbor be healthy, working & educated is in my best interest, no matter what his immigration status is.