What's this about a black kid being shot again

StevenK

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It would be interesting to see statistics on black cops and self harm.
 

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What can society do to change the feeling that black people have about being discriminated against? Constantly feeling like you have an uphill battle in the way your are perceived in the world sucks, and that's the overarching problem.

It doesn't seem to bother a lot of ethnicities - take Chinese people for example, they live in every community in every corner of the world and frankly they don't seem to give a fuck about what anyone else thinks about them, and fair play to them for it.

Maybe that's the difference between arriving in a country by choice rather than by force, even if it was generations ago.
 

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Lets keep Travon out of this.

Regardless of the flattering pics they used or the unflattering pics they avoided, George Zimmerman is a confirmed racist from a racist family, a volatile gun toting nutcase, and a possible [incestual] child abuser.

Even if Trayvon DID attack him, I have no doubt in my mind that George was the instigator.
 

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You, someone who had zero connection to this, who wasn't there during the shooting, and who was not present at the court sessions, think something else happened than what was recorded?

No offense...but what you think is irrelevant in this situation...

You weren't there either yet you believe the evidence presented by the state. Evidence can and will be tampered with, witness accounts will be skewed, witness will be coerced if possible. The Federal and numerous state governments have a history of bending the law and facts to suit their agenda, keep lower class people in-check and protect their cronies. The outcome of the indictment was decided from day one. All you have to do is realize what's at stake with this case and you will see that you, me and most people will never know the facts now or ever.

Black, white, red, purple; soon the suped-up, militarized, poorly-educated, corporate lapdog enforcers will be shitting on us all. Right now they are just sitting back and waiting to see how many people will believe their bullshit without being the least bit skeptical.
 
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Dude, you should have kept it the way you wrote it. "Lapgod" is an awesome turn of phrase.

Edit: luckily Poonman saved your invention with a quote.
 
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2D_mastur

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Meh what can I say, I type with four fingers.

But I do suppose belittling the value of life and shooting your gun without thinking of ways to avoid the death of human being would feel like playing God to most people. Most Americans probably come to the idea.
 
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So it's all over the news here in Cali.

There's protests in San Diego, Los Angeles and Oakland over this. So far there's been looting in Oakland and the I-15 in San Diego was shut down for awhile because of protestors blocking traffic.

They are also protesting around the US Embassy in London over this as well.
 
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By what I've read...here's what I take from it:

-Cop grabs Brown by the throat (while still in his vehicle. Cop says arm, witnesses say throat...I believe throat), Brown freaks out and socks cop in the face, cop draws gun, Brown freaks out and goes for gun, gets shot in the hand/arm.

-Brown takes off running, cop gets out, gives chase. Shoots at Brown and friend. Brown is hit in the back (I'm pretty sure I read this). At this time he turns around, probably in shock and heads towards cop. Eye witnesses report Brown being bent over, arms tucked in (again, probably in shock). Cop reports he thought Brown was charging him in attack, opens fire at him, fatally wounding him. (This story of him bent over, coming at the cop ties in better vs the "he had his hands in the air yelling don't shoot!!" story)

assaulted Brown or not was not up for debate (which, in my eyes, if he did grab Brown by the throat, he was guilty of assault)...it was if should be tried for murder. Which, if what I posted above is true...I don't he should be.

According to the asshole prosecutor's press conference Brown didn't get shot in the back whatsoever. He also didn't say he got shot in the car (actually that's the 1st I heard of that. The shots all supposedly happened when Brown ran from the cop.

Again I feel if he shot him while going for the gun great. If he shot him cause he charged great. However if he shot from a distance while his life was not in danger cause of anger, not so great.

Just to clarify not 100% sure if Brown was shot in car or charged at officer, but from what I remember hearing he didn't. Wouldn't be suprised either way, and understand why you think the way you do.
 

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So was this actually true?

If it is, it looks like law enforcement is gearing up for a totalitarian crackdown (if not all-out war) on the American people.

Vh-mib-little-tiffany.jpg


James Edwards: Well, she was the only one that actually seemed dangerous at the time, sir.

Zed: How'd you come to that conclusion?

James Edwards: Well, first I was gonna pop this guy hanging from the street light, and I realized, y'know, he's just working out. I mean, how would I feel if somebody come runnin' in the gym and bust me in my ass while I'm on the treadmill? Then I saw this snarling beast guy, and I noticed he had a tissue in his hand, and I'm realizing, y'know, he's not snarling, he's sneezing. Y'know, ain't no real threat there. Then I saw little Tiffany. I'm thinking, y'know, eight-year-old white girl, middle of the ghetto, bunch of monsters, this time of night with quantum physics books? She about to start some shit, Zed. She's about eight years old, those books are WAY too advanced for her. If you ask me, I'd say she's up to something. And to be honest, I'd appreciate it if you eased up off my back about it.
 

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You weren't there either yet you believe the evidence presented by the state. Evidence can and will be tampered with, witness accounts will be skewed, witness will be coerced if possible. The Federal and numerous state governments have a history of bending the law and facts to suit their agenda, keep lower class people in-check and protect their cronies. The outcome of the indictment was decided from day one. All you have to do is realize what's at stake with this case and you will see that you, me and most people will never know the facts now or ever.

Black, white, red, purple; soon the suped-up, militarized, poorly-educated, corporate lapdog enforcers will be shitting on us all. Right now they are just sitting back and waiting to see how many people will believe their bullshit without being the least bit skeptical.

As usual, it's about 50% from column A, 50% from column B. I read through the court accounts then made the post I made earlier. I'm not claiming it gospel, I'm saying its feasible. Neither party handled the situation well, Brown assaulted the cop, cop felt his life was in danger, end of story. It's a shitty situation...

I was debating people saying he "over shot" Brown. That's an absurd statement made time and time again and one made in complete ignorance. Look up and video of any firefight and tell me people are cool headed and taking minimum shots.

The new para-military police and DHS is scary as shit to me…as I always do, I will go on record stating I do not trust our government in the slightest nor do I trust a vast majority of the police.

It's sad when organizations like this have to exist:

http://www.oathkeepers.org

According to the asshole prosecutor's press conference Brown didn't get shot in the back whatsoever. He also didn't say he got shot in the car (actually that's the 1st I heard of that. The shots all supposedly happened when Brown ran from the cop.

Again I feel if he shot him while going for the gun great. If he shot him cause he charged great. However if he shot from a distance while his life was not in danger cause of anger, not so great.

Just to clarify not 100% sure if Brown was shot in car or charged at officer, but from what I remember hearing he didn't. Wouldn't be suprised either way, and understand why you think the way you do.

I just chuck this one out there;

Honestly…I still do not understand why the officer just didn't taze Brown. This entire thing could have been avoided had he pulled his taser instead of a gun...
 
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You want to see some scary police shit?.... watch this video.
I talked to my lawyers about this, and they said there is little they can do about these cases and they are becoming far too common.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks



OK I can't watch the video ATM. But I've heard of this lately, what if any justification is required?

How similar is this to, for instance, war time commandeering and quartering of troops style shit?
 

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Honestly…I still do not understand why the officer just didn't taze Brown. This entire thing could have been avoided had he pulled his taser instead of a gun...


Qftmft

This has been my deal since day one. Although I haven't really said anything in this thread about the actual incident, just semantics about institutional racism and whatnot.

I don't believe the cops story though. Witnesses have said the assault went differently.
 

smokehouse

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You want to see some scary police shit?.... watch this video.
I talked to my lawyers about this, and they said there is little they can do about these cases and they are becoming far too common.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks


The more this happens…the closer we get to mass civil unrest…which, at this point, given how corrupt our government is, I support 100%.
 

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Cops should be using non-lethal weapons like tazers, rubber bullets, and tear gas instead of killing people. Yes, he robbed a store, but he didnt deserve to die like that.

At least blacks aren't pussies and don't take this shit lying down and riot.
 

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Cops should be using non-lethal weapons like tazers, rubber bullets, and tear gas instead of killing people. Yes, he robbed a store, but he didnt deserve to die like that.

At least blacks aren't pussies and don't take this shit lying down and riot.

Which race or races do you consider to be pussies?
 

smokehouse

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Cops should be using non-lethal weapons like tazers, rubber bullets, and tear gas instead of killing people. Yes, he robbed a store, but he didnt deserve to die like that.

At least blacks aren't pussies and don't take this shit lying down and riot.

Not sure if serious…

If so…that is a pretty ridiculous statement. Black on black gun crime is through the roof…maybe you should do a bit of reading on your "aren't pussies" before running your mouth...
 
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