VF5 shipped today. I'm going to have a hard-on until Thursday

[beelzebubble]

I bought a 19000 shirt for my B costume and shut it down. Maybe i'll try another character but it all seems so pointless. Fight, get more stuff for my characters...for what? Noone will ever see my customizations. It'd be different it we could exchange ghost data or something but...whatever..

thanks for reminding me why i shouldn't give in to temptation and buy this game (or any fighter on a console that doesn't let me play online).

pointless tasks disguised as gameplay... ugh.

 

[Bishamon]

thanks for reminding me why i shouldn't give in to temptation and buy this game (or any fighter on a console that doesn't let me play online).

pointless tasks disguised as gameplay... ugh.

I'm still hoping the 360 version will include online play.

 

[hanafuda]

I have to admit that I'm getting rather tired of playing this game. Winning the tourneys is fun but somethings are kinda annoying. I fought the same Warrior Akira 6 TIMES! He kept on challenging me. It's was mostly annoying because I wasn't getting any experience or anything. I really hate having to quit fights but it seems there's no way to quit except by pressing start and exiting. Luckily after I beat him the 6th time I got a a chance to quit via a tourney invite.

Maybe you have burned out on this game for the time being. I mean, to get that rank you must have played about 250-300 matches with that character, right? I'm still at 7th dan with Lau, and that is about 150 matches played.

As for Akira, yeah, I'm well aware that he was in the original game, but in terms of character alone he must be the most boring character ever in a fighting game. I'm sure he is good to use once you learn him, but for me, he is bottom of the list of characters I want to learn. Next up I'm thinking maybe El Blaze, or Goh.

I went and played a couple of matches in the arcade buy got owned: primarily because the arcade button layout has the kick and guard buttons reversed to the way I have my HRAP3 configured. Really don't like that layout, but seen as the arcade doesn't enable you to map the buttons (why not?), I remapped the HRAP3 buttons to match the arcade layout and have since been getting more used to that. Still not there yet, but next time I hit the arcade I will be able to put up more of a fight, and not hold down the kick button thinking I am guarding

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Maybe you have burned out on this game for the time being. I mean, to get that rank you must have played about 250-300 matches with that character, right? I'm still at 7th dan with Lau, and that is about 150 matches played.

As for Akira, yeah, I'm well aware that he was in the original game, but in terms of character alone he must be the most boring character ever in a fighting game. I'm sure he is good to use once you learn him, but for me, he is bottom of the list of characters I want to learn. Next up I'm thinking maybe El Blaze, or Goh.

I went and played a couple of matches in the arcade buy got owned: primarily because the arcade button layout has the kick and guard buttons reversed to the way I have my HRAP3 configured. Really don't like that layout, but seen as the arcade doesn't enable you to map the buttons (why not?), I remapped the HRAP3 buttons to match the arcade layout and have since been getting more used to that. Still not there yet, but next time I hit the arcade I will be able to put up more of a fight, and not hold down the kick button thinking I am guarding

You're such a noob.

 

[hanafuda]

You're such a noob.

In terms of putting any serious time/thought into a VF game?

Yep, sure am.

Enjoying it though. Haven't been this 'into' a fighting game for a long time. NBC was the last fighter I got really hooked on.

 

[RBjakeSpecial]

Akira is awesome. Play him on the practice mode and try to learn all of his moves. Spod (Spinning Palm of Death) is a great move that will take you a LONG time to master. His knee will take a long time to be able to pull off with any precision too.

Akira is a really technical character that is difficult as hell to learn, but has a ton of strategy. He really is the Ryu of the game, so taking him out would be just as wierd as pulling Mario from Super Mario Brothers.

Akira is a bitch at first, but he's really one of the best characters in the game. I think the simple design is nice, and a nice reminder of the roots of the game and how complex it can get.

As far as playing in the arcade... Hanafuda X, you really should set up your buttons so they mirror the arcade, the game is designed with that layout and you may find some of the combos and moves easier to do with the G, P K layout. The arcade is a tough place to play VF5, mainly cause everyone there has been playing it for the last 15 years. If you play a lot though you'll get better. Out of curiosity what character are you playing?

I'm currently playing Lau, I think I only have him up to 2nd kyu in the arcade. I've been sorely neglecting him. I can't wait to get my hands on a home version of this game... It's really the best fighting game.

 

[Devil_Gans]

As for Akira, yeah, I'm well aware that he was in the original game, but in terms of character alone he must be the most boring character ever in a fighting game. I'm sure he is good to use once you learn him, but for me, he is bottom of the list of characters I want to learn. Next up I'm thinking maybe El Blaze, or Goh.

LOL.

 

[hanafuda]

My Lau is now 10th dan.

Starting to see the special ranks now. Quite a few kaiden players around, but have yet to see any others.

Akira is awesome. Play him on the practice mode and try to learn all of his moves. Spod (Spinning Palm of Death) is a great move that will take you a LONG time to master. His knee will take a long time to be able to pull off with any precision too.

Akira is a really technical character that is difficult as hell to learn, but has a ton of strategy. He really is the Ryu of the game, so taking him out would be just as wierd as pulling Mario from Super Mario Brothers.

Akira is a bitch at first, but he's really one of the best characters in the game. I think the simple design is nice, and a nice reminder of the roots of the game and how complex it can get.

As far as playing in the arcade... Hanafuda X, you really should set up your buttons so they mirror the arcade, the game is designed with that layout and you may find some of the combos and moves easier to do with the G, P K layout. The arcade is a tough place to play VF5, mainly cause everyone there has been playing it for the last 15 years. If you play a lot though you'll get better. Out of curiosity what character are you playing?

I'm currently playing Lau, I think I only have him up to 2nd kyu in the arcade. I've been sorely neglecting him. I can't wait to get my hands on a home version of this game... It's really the best fighting game.

As I said, I'm sure Akira is a cool character to learn, but I hate fighting him, and in terms of actual characterisation, I feel he might as well be a cardboard cut out.

Lau is the man. Back in the day when VF1 came out in the arcades, Lau was the only character I played, even if that was only very little. Same goes for VF2. After that I don't think I touched the series.

My fave Lau move, and so far, fave move I have seen in the game, is when you go into his alternative stance, then do f+P, then as it connects P+G. He goes from the attack and grabs their arm, then grabs them by the throat and throws them forward onto the floor. Awesome move. My ultimate finisher if I am feeling cocky enough to try something risky...

The first thing I did when I got back from the arcade was re-map my HRAP3 buttons to the arcade layout. I still prefer my old layout, but after a couple of days' play I am already used to the new layout.

 

[RBjakeSpecial]

My Lau is now 10th dan.

Starting to see the special ranks now. Quite a few kaiden players around, but have yet to see any others.



As I said, I'm sure Akira is a cool character to learn, but I hate fighting him, and in terms of actual characterisation, I feel he might as well be a cardboard cut out.

Lau is the man. Back in the day when VF1 came out in the arcades, Lau was the only character I played, even if that was only very little. Same goes for VF2. After that I don't think I touched the series.

My fave Lau move, and so far, fave move I have seen in the game, is when you go into his alternative stance, then do f+P, then as it connects P+G. He goes from the attack and grabs their arm, then grabs them by the throat and throws them forward onto the floor. Awesome move. My ultimate finisher if I am feeling cocky enough to try something risky...

The first thing I did when I got back from the arcade was re-map my HRAP3 buttons to the arcade layout. I still prefer my old layout, but after a couple of days' play I am already used to the new layout.

Sorry! Didn't read your initial posts thoroughly enough Lau is certianly the man. I love his juggles. Favorite move is getting the oppenent to duck then KICK and juggle juggle.

Lau is def. the man. We need to play some rounds in Akiba!

 

[hanafuda]

Sorry! Didn't read your initial posts thoroughly enough Lau is certianly the man. I love his juggles. Favorite move is getting the oppenent to duck then KICK and juggle juggle.

Lau is def. the man. We need to play some rounds in Akiba!

I didn't know you can juggle after K. I'll give it a go. Normally when I am in a position to use a ranged move like that with Lau I will go for f,f + K. Can usually follow it up with a sly groud stomp too.

Yeah, I would be up for a few rounds some time, although I try my best to avoid Akiba Also, I need some more Vs human experience first.

 

[hanafuda]

My Lau is now kaiden after a surprisingly short stint as 10th dan.

After winning literally about 5 matches as 10th dan and with a huge wad of 'level' bar left to fill, I was suddenly thrown into a rank promotion match which I won, which then gave me kaiden rank, but with an empty 'level' bar for the first time.

The next two matches were then instant demotion if I were to lose, but I ended up winning both quite comfortably, so retain kaiden rank with a fairly healthy margin.

While I find this game very enjoyable to play, I'm starting to think that it really isn't that deep after all. While it is certainly highly technical, the system itself is really pretty straightforward, and while the characters have a ton of moves at their disposal, there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of necessity for the huge move roster.

Lau for example. He has some cool combos, but why bother when PPPK (variation) pretty much gets the job done? Sure, making full use of the roster certainly makes for some impressive viewing, and is entertaining for the player, but is most of it superfluous?

Time to track down some match vids I think, but I have a feeling that I'll find that most players just use a core set of moves that work for them, and ignore the rest.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

While I find this game very enjoyable to play, I'm starting to think that it really isn't that deep after all. While it is certainly highly technical, the system itself is really pretty straightforward, and while the characters have a ton of moves at their disposal, there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of necessity for the huge move roster.

Thanks for the info, professor. This is what I meant in the other thread about talking about something you don't know about.

 

[thundr51]

Lau for example. He has some cool combos, but why bother when PPPK (variation) pretty much gets the job done? Sure, making full use of the roster certainly makes for some impressive viewing, and is entertaining for the player, but is most of it superfluous?

Don't let the Quest mode AI fool you. With Jeff you can get surprisingly far with just Kick.

However, move over to arcade and turn up the level to hard to get a taste of what a real match is like. Granted, it's still not human level but you at least get a taste. The quest mode is a joke. I figured this out the minute I made it to 10th dan and STILL hadn't lost a battle whereas on Evo I could barely make it to 8th dan.

 

[hanafuda]

Thanks for the info, professor. This is what I meant in the other thread about talking about something you don't know about.

I have over 250 matches under my belt in Quest Mode, and can now clock Arcade Mode on one credit with Lau under normal difficulty, si foo.

So you are saying that, as I have never played VF3 or VF4 in my life, I can't possibly qualify to post my impressions of VF5?

You're beautiful.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

I have over 250 matches under my belt in Quest Mode, and can now clock Arcade Mode on one credit with Lau under normal difficulty, si foo.

So you are saying that, as I have never played VF3 or VF4 in my life, I can't possibly qualify to post my impressions of VF5?

You're beautiful.

Yes. You can't take your experiences with the one player game (with horrible ai) and think you're an expert at how humans must play each other. Your sony love and shitty opinions are getting on my last nerve. By how you describe your play, all anyone has to do is sidestep you/counter you and you're toast. Use a few moves my ass. Go back to the arcade and see what people do.

 

[Ghost-Dog]

Yes. You can't take your experiences with the one player game (with horrible ai) and think you're an expert at how humans must play each other. Your sony love and shitty opinions are getting on my last nerve. By how you describe your play, all anyone has to do is sidestep you/counter you and you're toast. Use a few moves my ass. Go back to the arcade and see what people do.

I've been playing VF since day one and when I played my first random challenger at Club Sega in Akiba I got destroyed. Without a hint of hesitation or mercy. I'm not saying I'm really good or anything, it's just a testament to how deep the fighting engine is when facing real, skilled humans.

 

[hanafuda]

Yes. You can't take your experiences with the one player game (with horrible ai) and think you're an expert at how humans must play each other. Your sony love and shitty opinions are getting on my last nerve. By how you describe your play, all anyone has to do is sidestep you/counter you and you're toast. Use a few moves my ass. Go back to the arcade and see what people do.

Where did I say I'm an expert at how humans must play each other?

I played in the arcade the other day, and lost, but didn't fare too badly either.

How much time have you spent playing VF5?

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Where did I say I'm an expert at how humans must play each other?

I played in the arcade the other day, and lost, but didn't fare too badly either.

How much time have you spent playing VF5?

5? About two hours. 4 evo? Jesus, 100s of hours.

The fact you said it's not that deep, and you can get away with using only a few moves is just wrong.

 

[hanafuda]

5? About two hours. 4 evo? Jesus, 100s of hours.

The fact you said it's not that deep, and you can get away with using only a few moves is just wrong.

Two hours?

I'll be PMing you for tips then

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Two hours?

I'll be PMing you for tips then

You're a fucking idiot. If you knew anything about the series, which you clearly do not, you'd know there's not a whole hell of a lot changed from evo to this. Just shut the fuck up already. Nobody needs your worthless opinions about virtua fighter. Or any fighter, for that matter.

 

[hanafuda]

You're a fucking idiot. If you knew anything about the series, which you clearly do not, you'd know there's not a whole hell of a lot changed from evo to this. Just shut the fuck up already. Nobody needs your worthless opinions about virtua fighter. Or any fighter, for that matter.

Hey VF master.

After a brief search, I found this tourney vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6iGvYNfXrI&mode=related&search=

I don't want to comment too much about characters other than Lau, but from a glance I would say that none of them use more than about 40% of their actual move set.

A few Lau matches in their too. He really does not use much of his move set at all. Just check out the very last match of the vid. Lau wins, and the majority of that is the PPPK combo.

If you disagree, find a tourney vid where players do make use of more than a few key moves/combos. I doubt you will find such a video though, because it doesn't exist, or at least, anyone that does actually try to veer away from those key move sets will get owned, because they are superfluous.

 

[Snooptalian]

To bad you two can't get together and play some 1 on 1 VF...Maybe if the 360 does online with it's version that will happen to settle all arguments...LMK if and when it does and I'll start the betting...

 

[hanafuda]

Anyone know of a link that lists all of the custom ranks after 10th dan?

 

[Martinov]

A few Lau matches in their too. He really does not use much of his move set at all. Just check out the very last match of the vid. Lau wins, and the majority of that is the PPPK combo.

Not watched the video, but I'll be shocked if he did the whole PPPK on a regular basis outside of a juggle combo. Too much risk finishing with those kicks, it's a sure sign of a noob Lau player, that's what everyone's getting at in recent posts.

 

[beelzebubble]

i'm selling this off.

i was enjoying levelling up with wolf for a while there but the ai is too stupid to keep me interested beyong the 130 fights or so i got in the quest mode.

i can beat pretty much any ai opponent (i haven't fought any ranks above 10th dan) with pretty much only his drop kick and + P+G throw.

i'm sure the ai is good (great?) when compared to that in other fighters but it doesn't come close to comparing to that of a real player.

my mate who only dabbles in fighters messed around with lei fei and beat me a couple of times in 10 or so matches something the ai can't do.