Vegans

Would you ever go vegetarian/vegan? 🤔


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ChuChu Flamingo

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is it? whats your evidence

The tl;dr is plant based protein is not the same as animal based. As we get older sarcopenia starts to set in and we need more protein. On top of that you need to be careful with what fruits and vegetables you eat if going 100% that way. Low vs fast starches and how it affects your blood sugar. The fiber in a lot of fruits and vegetables blunts the inslulin response but not all.

The more muscle mass you have the more you can buffer glucose spikes from creating free radicals. It is why peeps who exercise tend to live longer and look better whether its flushing excess glucose or having enough muscle mass to buffer it better. The whole longevity scene seems to be about controlling your glucose levels (which if prolonged causes diabetes, more arterial plaque for heart attacks, dementia (diabetes of the brain). Sugar in excess amounts causes inflammation which clogs up your immune system and then cancer comes in.

I can't really pin point to one video. I've listened/studied dozens of hours of this stuff. If you want to start studying look up Dr Rhonda Patrick, Peter Attia, Andrew Huberman, and David Sinclaire. Look at what the longest people living and what they consumed (they called it blue zones). It isn't exclusively meat or being vegan. Usually its a mix of both. There may be many paths but all have the same underlying principles like weight lifting.

Just from seeing pure vegans online they don't age better in fact worse. They also tend to get diabetes or heart disease likely from all the carbohydrates of fruit/vegetables they consumed.

Tl;dr im not a fruit/vegetable hater or a keto tard. I think all foods have benefits when used correctly and at the right time. A lot of fruit and vegetables have antioxidants like blueberries or Sulforaphane in broccoli sproutes. Lots of fruits and vegetables help with your microbiome too especially fermented stuff like Kombucha/Kimichi and more.
 
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Moob Butter

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Baguette for sweetness, sun-dried tomato with cannellonis for sour, and pork medium rare for the savoury is an almost perfect sandwich. It's pretty much as good as you can get, I can only want something green with maybe umami thrown in, so it's a 9.5/10

I've tried to think how to add those missing bits because it's actually not obvious, lettuce just doesn't work here, it would go too wet. I think an Asian twist would seal the deal. Very lightly fried cabbage in ginger and garlic , not much cabbage, just a couple of leaves, cooked in garlic, ginger and a dash of fish sauce would add the very final element. A bit of pecorino would work as well but could risk over salting it with my inclusion, one or the other.
 

LoneSage

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The tl;dr is plant based protein is not the same as animal based. As we get older sarcopenia starts to set in and we need more protein. On top of that you need to be careful with what fruits and vegetables you eat if going 100% that way. Low vs fast starches and how it affects your blood sugar. The fiber in a lot of fruits and vegetables blunts the inslulin response but not all.

The more muscle mass you have the more you can buffer glucose spikes from creating free radicals. It is why peeps who exercise tend to live longer and look better whether its flushing excess glucose or having enough muscle mass to buffer it better. The whole longevity scene seems to be about controlling your glucose levels (which if prolonged causes diabetes, more arterial plaque for heart attacks, dementia (diabetes of the brain). Sugar in excess amounts causes inflammation which clogs up your immune system and then cancer comes in.

I can't really pin point to one video. I've listened/studied dozens of hours of this stuff. If you want to start studying look up Dr Rhonda Patrick, Peter Attia, Andrew Huberman, and David Sinclaire. Look at what the longest people living and what they consumed (they called it blue zones). It isn't exclusively meat or being vegan. Usually its a mix of both. There may be many paths but all have the same underlying principles like weight lifting.

Just from seeing pure vegans online they don't age better in fact worse. They also tend to get diabetes or heart disease likely from all the carbohydrates of fruit/vegetables they consumed.

Tl;dr im not a fruit/vegetable hater or a keto tard. I think all foods have benefits when used correctly and at the right time. A lot of fruit and vegetables have antioxidants like blueberries or Sulforaphane in broccoli sproutes. Lots of fruits and vegetables help with your microbiome too especially fermented stuff like Kombucha/Kimichi and more.
I ate corn for, like, two weeks straight and can confirm this is true. Based and watching videos about this for hours on end until you get PhD level-pilled.
 

Moob Butter

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Can’t cook? I bet you goobs are jealous of my lunch today. Frozen pepperoni pizza with slices of days old cooked beetroot and cheddar cheese on top. I’m really pushing the boat out for my lunch at home today.
 

promking

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I got bit by the Lonestar tick in 2024.
I can't eat red meat or anything with a " hoof "... No pork, red meat or lamb.
No jello or anything that contains gelatin. I have an epi-pen now it's really annoying when I eat out, I have to announce my gay food allergy...
So lots of Turkey, Chicken and Fish for me.
 

Fygee

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Being Vegan is the certified way to speedrun yourself to aging faster.
Who needs vitamin B12 anyways? Super overrated.

To be fair though, it seems to work well for certain people. Weird Al is a prime example, and best of all, he's never ever preachy or judgmental about it.
 

Dr. Jigglin

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All I'm gonna say is that there seems to be a LOT of nutritional experts about these days. You know we're all still going to die and that it's largely out of your control right?
 

LoneSage

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I got bit by the Lonestar tick in 2024.
I can't eat red meat or anything with a " hoof "... No pork, red meat or lamb.
No jello or anything that contains gelatin. I have an epi-pen now it's really annoying when I eat out, I have to announce my gay food allergy...
So lots of Turkey, Chicken and Fish for me.
Dude what happened
 

StevenK

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I got bit by the Lonestar tick in 2024.
I can't eat red meat or anything with a " hoof "... No pork, red meat or lamb.
No jello or anything that contains gelatin. I have an epi-pen now it's really annoying when I eat out, I have to announce my gay food allergy...
So lots of Turkey, Chicken and Fish for me.
I've never heard of this before, just been looking it up. Jesus fuck this bug needs extincting immediately.
 

Fygee

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I got bit by the Lonestar tick in 2024.
I can't eat red meat or anything with a " hoof "... No pork, red meat or lamb.
No jello or anything that contains gelatin. I have an epi-pen now it's really annoying when I eat out, I have to announce my gay food allergy...
So lots of Turkey, Chicken and Fish for me.
Nature is absolutely freaking wild.

Hopefully, it goes away eventually. Looks like it's not always permanent.
 
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