Tron Ares

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For me, it just adds to it's charm.
"Part of the charm" is either nostalgia on overload or excusing it as "so bad it's good." Different strokes, but be honest. If you saw it for the first time today, with no knowledge of the history, no nostalgia connected to it, no nothing, would you really think it was charming?

I like plenty of terrible garbage, plenty of things that are objectively worse than Tron, so I'm not blasting you for that. But get out of here with that "why don't you like good things" shit.
 

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The original is not only essentially a feature length tech demo but also such a product of its time it’s impossible to judge it objectively. It’s a bad movie with some cool shit in it is about the fairest way to put it. Some cool shit needs to be emphasized. A lot of it is dull and slow and the writing is terrible. I still enjoy it enough I can throw it on in the background but I would have a hard time sitting down and actually watching it.
 

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I was hesitant to watch, but I'm enticed. Maybe give the previous movie another watch.
 
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It’s a bad movie with some cool shit in it is about the fairest way to put it.
I think if Disney made it 10 years later even with the exact same effects, it would be two thousand percent better. People forget how shit live action Disney used to be. Somewhere, there was a change in management or something and they turned a corner. But Disney live action in the 1970s and 1980s was all relentlessly vanilla and corny stuff you could show for the kids on a projector after Sunday sevice at a Methodist church. Whatever any filmmakers were attempting to do, the studio notes must have been brutal. Tone it down type of stuff.
 

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"Part of the charm" is either nostalgia on overload or excusing it as "so bad it's good." Different strokes, but be honest. If you saw it for the first time today, with no knowledge of the history, no nostalgia connected to it, no nothing, would you really think it was charming?
I like plenty of terrible garbage, plenty of things that are objectively worse than Tron, so I'm not blasting you for that. But get out of here with that "why don't you like good things" shit.
Because I think it's good as a whole in spite of it's poor quality dialogue and line delivery (for everyone not named Jeff Bridges and David Warner anyways, they were great). I also give it grace under the context of how it was filmed, which was basically actors on some very sparse black and white sets with barely anything to actually interact with physically. It's always an enjoyable watch whenever I rarely bust it out. Does nostalgia play into it? Absolutely, but there's a reason why so many people still love and adore it, and it isn't all nostalgia.

Would I objectively love it as much if I saw it for the first time now? Probably not. Could say that about anything from that era. We're all old and cynical bastards now that are difficult to impress. Would I dislike it though? I doubt it, because I enjoy retro tech stuff and again, flaws being part of something's charm as long as they're not super cringe.
I think if Disney made it 10 years later even with the exact same effects, it would be two thousand percent better. People forget how shit live action Disney used to be. Somewhere, there was a change in management or something and they turned a corner. But Disney live action in the 1970s and 1980s was all relentlessly vanilla and corny stuff you could show for the kids on a projector after Sunday sevice at a Methodist church. Whatever any filmmakers were attempting to do, the studio notes must have been brutal. Tone it down type of stuff.

Tron was supposed to be their "turn the corner" movie as they were pretty self aware that their live action stuff wasn't doing well, nor well made. In a lot of ways, it did. It put them back on the map for live action productions, was a technical marvel, and warts and all gained a huge audience amongst kids, teenagers, and young adults. Doesn't hurt that a good amount of critics liked it too.

Would it have been better 10 years later? That's really hard to say. There was still plenty of cheesy, corny, cliched stuff then, arguably more than there was in the very early 80s.

Not all 80's Disney movies were vanilla and corny. Return to Oz a few years after Tron was anything but. It completely embraced the "dark" children's movie trend to the point that some critics gave it negative reviews for going too far with it. Scared the crap out of me as a kid. Still one of my favorites of that decade.
 

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In any case, that's why I'm probably going to skip rewatching Black Hole.
 

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I think Tron always stuck in my brain for the visual style and soundscape. The bass of the recognizers, the whine of the light cycles, and the awesome synth music.

The concept of a world within a computer was lost on me as a child in the theater but the overall style(music and design) really got its hooks in me.
 
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ngl that trailer got me like ugh
 

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Trailer has me pretty hyped. I'm really digging the concept of bringing the Grid into the real world and it makes sense that a corporation would weaponize it. I hope they don't hold back on the violence (within reason) to really show how dangerous these Grid constructs are. The soundtrack is gonna fucking slap too and fits the darker theme.

I wonder how Flynn is going to fit into all of this. Considering he's partly transparent, and the graphics in the area he's at are very old school Tron, I'm guessing it's a "version" of him that was on Dillinger's Grid, or got imported there.

I'm betting everyone $10 right now that Ares flips to good guy and becomes the new Tron in a redemption arc.

Still bummed Quora, Alan, and Sam Flynn aren't in it at all unless they've been really good at lying and keeping a secret.
 

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Trailer has me pretty hyped. I'm really digging the concept of bringing the Grid into the real world and it makes sense that a corporation would weaponize it. I hope they don't hold back on the violence (within reason) to really show how dangerous these Grid constructs are. The soundtrack is gonna fucking slap too and fits the darker theme.

I wonder how Flynn is going to fit into all of this. Considering he's partly transparent, and the graphics in the area he's at are very old school Tron, I'm guessing it's a "version" of him that was on Dillinger's Grid, or got imported there.

I'm betting everyone $10 right now that Ares flips to good guy and becomes the new Tron in a redemption arc.

Still bummed Quora, Alan, and Sam Flynn aren't in it at all unless they've been really good at lying and keeping a secret.
It would have cool if we would have got Cilian Murphy to come back Ed Dillinger Jr. But we get Julian Dillinger as either Sr's son or grandson. It looks like he's in charge of Dillinger Company and looks like he's gunning for a hostile takeover of Encom quite literally. He's suceeded in 3d Printing Tron Programs and is trying to pawn them off to the military as expendable soldiers. I guess Julian suceeds in taking over Encom's Tron, but Ares goes AWOL. I don't know who the asian girl is supposed to be. An Encom programmer who happens to be product placement for Ducati.
 

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On it's face, Ares looks like it'll be one folks can enjoy without having seeing the previous two and knowing the lore and characters.

I still recommend watching the previous two though.
 
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