The Market Purge - ROT Style... Starts post 944.

Tacitus

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You probably have a lot of questions. I'm here to answer them for you.

You probably don't understand why this has happened. You probably have no idea why you suddenly can't PM or see that sales thread you started.

This came as a shock and you're angry. YOU WERE SELLING AND BUYING STUFF HERE!

That, my friend, is exactly why this was done to you.

The rules haven't changed in years.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?183093-MARKET-RULES

The market rules clearly state our expectation of your behavior in this community.

2.6. Any user who has no interest in being a member of the community should not join the forum just to sell their items. These forums are not meant to be an equivalent of eBay or Yahoo! Auctions. Any user suspected of this kind of behavior may be subject to actions by Moderators and Administrators.

Simply put, you have been identified by the site and its membership as someone who has chosen to disregard this long standing rule. This wasn't changed overnight, it was not enforced. Recent events and the behavior of people just like yourself has necessitated this action.

Why was I banned?

You haven't been banned. The marketplace is a privilege and one we take seriously. You retain the ability to participate in the community and forums. When you do so in a sustained manner, you privileges will be restored.

When is that going to happen?

When you actively contribute to the site. We do not consider peddling your wares here "contributing." We do not consider you strictly buying items or asking questions in the tech forum "contributing." You're not doing us a favor; giving you access to an established user base of active traders and technical help is doing YOU a favor.

There is no post count limit, there is not a set bar for triggering your access. It will be determined on a case-by-case basis. 100 posts of "awesome collection!" or "I agree!" isn't going to make the cut.

Quality over quantity.

This is unfair!

People like yourself are what made this necessary. You have YOUR OWN SITE, drive traffic to it SOMEWHERE ELSE, pay for your OWN bandwidth and hosting fees and charge WHATEVER YOU WANT! It's easy!

The reason you are here is that it will cost you nothing to post, we have far more traffic than you do and you have to make no effort to get an audience.

The fact remains that the rules on this are clear and have been for some time. You are not entitled to the market here. Go to ebay, yahoo or your own site. There are no free rides anymore. You come here to avoid selling fees or taxes.

Pay your ebay fees or find another bandwidth sucker.

Why now?

If you want to blame this on anyone, blame it on the recent glut of scams, pricejacking or flippers who have become a cancer.

Most of these problem members, scammers and sponges fit a certain profile. Several of these items apply to them:

1. "long time member" but has years of public inactivity
2. Contributes nothing to the site socially
3. No ties to here, hence no reputation to worry about
4. Has made questionable decision on hardware and sales
5. Only lurks in the market
6. First to post in giveaway, free stuff threads or raffles
7. Buys/sells things frequently, mostly at profit (flipper)
8. Active for a short time, then only posts in the market
9. Insulting or dismissive of the forum regulars when questioned about rules, prices or expectations of sellers
10. Demands +4% or Paypal gift on transactions with little reputation to stand on
11. Buys at "community prices", sells at "ebay prices"
12. Runs multiple accounts to hide market activity

Hey! Seller X is (insert statement here) and he hasn't been disciplined...

If that is your first reaction, reconsider your membership. If that person is still here and you are not, we have not disciplined them, they have contributed to the site and community in a meaningful way. The have earned a reputation as a seller with reasonable prices, great deals, honesty, integrity, have a long standing tie to the community or offer a service or project that is unique and worthwhile.


Getting out of this situation is easy.

Just be active. Post to the forums. Find a topic or thread to contribute to.

It's not too much to ask for some participation and contribution outside of scooping items or cashing out. The only reason this place is a hub for sales is that the community at large is popular and the userbase is very active. Coming here to only use that and not participating is exploitation of resources.

The "can't contribute" excuse or "I have nothing to talk about" is lazy. There are plenty of threads to post in, discussions to start, etc. It's not about spamming or churning.. it's not about post count. Its about bringing something to the table beyond a wallet and some PCBs. Post in a high score thread. Post pics of the rare stuff you own. If your interest in the Neo drove you here, there should be no problem in finding something in common. The Neo has been "officially dead" for a decade and the site is still very popular. We expanded our horizons, SNKP is still putting out games and we have an active Non-Neo focused set of sub-forums.


If this is too much to ask, we don't want you here

Be mindful of what you say. We all frequent other forums and pages. We see what you're doing. If you're going to insult the user base and your potential clients, that doesn't reflect badly on us. It reflects badly on you. We have long memories and we enjoy a good troll.


Yes, you can "appeal" our decision.

Feel free to post in this thread and explain WHY you shouldn't be market restricted. We'll be more than happy to explain why or review on a case by case basis. If you're just going to complain or flame us, save your finger power. You already know why we did this to you or should know now.

Neo-Geo.com is not your marketing arm, free ad-space, dumping ground or personal scooping site. It's an active community of members focused on enjoying retro-gaming, lively discussion and trolling people for dick pics and plane tickets.

Thank you for reading this.
 

theMot

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This mass restriction was for existing members. How does it work for someone who registers tomorrow? Are they not able to see the market until the privilege is granted?
 

Viewpoint

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This mass restriction was for existing members. How does it work for someone who registers tomorrow? Are they not able to see the market until the privilege is granted?

Considering how many people try and register an account here I would say that's probably true.
 

Mack702

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I don't post much but I sure as hell thought I helped the community with selling awesome stuff for super cheap, I don't feel like I should be kicked out of that area just because I don't post much but I felt like I hooked up a lot of members with great items for a really great price.
 

cdamm

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I don't post much but I sure as hell thought I helped the community with selling awesome stuff for super cheap, I don't feel like I should be kicked out of that area just because I don't post much but I felt like I hooked up a lot of members with great items for a really great price.

even though it is in violation of the long standing rules of the marketplace?
 

Mack702

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even though it is in violation of the long standing rules of the marketplace?

I believe even though I didn't post much I was "helping" other members with awesome items, I soldered chips for plenty of people for dirt cheap. I was in no way of "using" this forum for a profit. I kinda felt like helping folks out was better than making money.

My feedback should speak for it's self. Lately I haven't modded much and sold much on here because of work but when I do I always do it for the members.
 

cdamm

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I believe even though I didn't post much I was "helping" other members with awesome items, I soldered chips for plenty of people for dirt cheap. I was in no way of "using" this forum for a profit. I kinda felt like helping folks out was better than making money.

you just described how to make a profit without contributing.

not a big profit, but a profit nonetheless.
 

ggallegos1

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I believe even though I didn't post much I was "helping" other members with awesome items, I soldered chips for plenty of people for dirt cheap. I was in no way of "using" this forum for a profit. I kinda felt like helping folks out was better than making money.

My feedback should speak for it's self. Lately I haven't modded much and sold much on here because of work but when I do I always do it for the members.

When your feedback is larger than your post count, that's the issue we're talking about. Your feedback is no justification to your value as a member to the community. Post and discuss, and then your reputation as a member and not a vendor of services will speak for itself.
 

cdamm

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Ya that profit went to packaging supplys and solder ;)

look man- ive never had an issue with you personally. hell- i think we have done business before. the ruling is what it is. all you need to do is contribute in the main forum a bit and you get your access back. it just kind of is what it is.
 

Tacitus

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The extra 15 minutes a day it would take for you to browse the forums and contribute is probably worth it in the long run.

Think of all the competition for your services we eliminated. If you're greed driven, that should be enough to motivate you, right?

This is advantageous for everyone who makes the effort. The shortsighted flipper/seller/pricejacker doesn't see that.. one of the reasons this was done. A little effort will go a long way.
 

Mack702

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look man- ive never had an issue with you personally. hell- i think we have done business before. the ruling is what it is. all you need to do is contribute in the main forum a bit and you get your access back. it just kind of is what it is.

Ok thanks.
 

Hasuki-san

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actually I don´t really understand why someone is forced to post something, but can not freely access his own profile. I understand that the marketplace seems to be the holy grail inside this community, but I am a little bit to old to be prosecuted. Also I think this forum makes it too hard for new members to get a part of the community if nearly all sales threads exclude europe or new members or members with no feedback. How should I get a feedback if the first time I want to buy something I am locked away like a thief ? I understand that are the forum rules and maybe I will be punished for this post my whole life but actually I don´t really feel that I´ve done something really wrong. But hey, I´ve got to get 40 years of experience to be punished :) So I´ll start again from the beginning...
 

Tacitus

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actually I don´t really understand why someone is forced to post something, but can not freely access his own profile. I understand that the marketplace seems to be the holy grail inside this community, but I am a little bit to old to be prosecuted. Also I think this forum makes it too hard for new members to get a part of the community if nearly all sales threads exclude europe or new members or members with no feedback. How should I get a feedback if the first time I want to buy something I am locked away like a thief ? I understand that are the forum rules and maybe I will be punished for this post my whole life but actually I don´t really feel that I´ve done something really wrong. But hey, I´ve got to get 40 years of experience to be punished :) So I´ll start again from the beginning...

You're not being asked to get to 2000 posts in the next 3 months.

You have 40 years of experience, share it. We have a ton of tech threads that have gone unanswered. We have high score challenges that could use a good player. How is any of that hard?

You're german.. start a german scheisse porn thread.

If this place is worth your clicking, selling and browsing... it's worth the extra 15 minutes it takes to regain your market privileges.
 

Sean3614

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Well, I don't mind posting I just feel the whole idea of unless you post you can't edit posts or send or read messages is retarded.
I was in the middle of trying to get something sorted out and guess what I can't now.
IF you want a number of posts per month that's fine but, please give us some freedom.
 

HMG

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Do I post around often enough?
 

Tacitus

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Well, I don't mind posting I just feel the whole idea of unless you post you can't edit posts or send or read messages is retarded.

You're voicing an opinion on the forums! Was that so hard? Now, go into another subforum and do the same

I was in the middle of trying to get something sorted out and guess what I can't now.

Maybe if I knew who you were, valued you as a member or heard from you before today, I'd be sympathetic to your plight. Unfortunately, I only do that for members I know well.

Sucks to be you. The only time you engage me is when you need something from me. We call that leeching.


IF you want a number of posts per month that's fine but, please give us some freedom.

You have all the freedom someone like you deserves. You earn those privileges around here.
 

Tacitus

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Ok thanks.

I'm going to bet CDAMM a PCB that we will never see you again after this.

I'll hedge a bit. you won't be here in 90 days. You'll stop posting after this little incident, maybe post for a few weeks.. decide it's not worth it and take your wares elsewhere.
 

Mack702

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I'm going to bet CDAMM a PCB that we will never see you again after this.

I'll hedge a bit. you won't be here in 90 days. You'll stop posting after this little incident, maybe post for a few weeks.. decide it's not worth it and take your wares elsewhere.

Please don't judge me, I don't have any wares to begin with. CDAMM you want a PCB?
 

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Tacitus

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Please don't judge me, I don't have any wares to begin with. CDAMM you want a PCB?

So, you'll be here in 90 days, actively contributing to the site?

I'll believe it when I see it but this is exactly why this is happening the way it is.
 

snkjoe

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I'm gona say this an i hope I don't get in trouble.. stop bitching an go an be part of the community shit 15 min of your time is not gona waist your whole day. As well I also acknowledge that I my self haven't been active on here as much as I should of and I apologize about that and I will try to be more active and be more part of the community more.
 

Jonmkl

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This is actually fantastic.

I've had disagreements in the past about marketplace things, and I think it was because until recently I had a very different idea of what the marketplace was, and what the community here really was, compared to the people who have been here longer. Honestly I've avoided the market quite a bit because I was always unsure of how it was best meant to run and didn't want to create problems. I feel like this sends the right message, if it had been this way when I signed up I would have understood the situation much better and much quicker.

Keep on rainin down that justice thunder. Even when that justice falls upon people I happen to like, it's justice nonetheless.
 

Hasuki-san

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Maybe my english isn´t perfect. I wanted to say that I´ve got to get 40 years of age (and therefore life experience) to be punished in a forum like this.

"You're german.. start a german scheisse porn thread."
thats not the niveau I want to talk about and I hope you also and besides: thats not a german issue
 
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