The Disney Pixar Deal - What are your opinions?

Curt

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060124/media_nm/media_pixar_disney_dc

I think it's great, and I'm really happy for Jobs. I hope this helps Disney turn their films around, ala the "reverse takeover" of NeXT computers and Apple in 1997.

I'm positive this will be approved by Pixar by the end of the day.

Although like others I feel it is very important to keep John Lasseter happy, they should give him a raise. (They currently only pay him 3M a year)

Gina Keating Associated Press said:
Disney board okays takeover offer to Pixar: source

Tue Jan 24, 11:45 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The board of Walt Disney Co. has authorized Chief Executive Robert Iger to make an offer to buy Pixar Animation Studios Inc., and that is expected by Tuesday, a source familiar with the matter said late on Monday.

Pixar's board is expected to consider the offer on Tuesday as well, said the source, who did not disclose financial terms.

The Pixar board was expected to confer by telephone, the source said.

In the event a decision is reached, an announcement by Disney would be expected after the market closes, the source said.

Pixar shares closed at $58.27 on Monday on Nasdaq, putting its market value at just under $7 billion. The shares have risen about 12 percent in the last month, partly on speculation that Disney would buy the computer animation company that created such hits as "Toy Story," "Finding Nemo" and "The Incredibles."

Shares of Disney were up nearly 2 percent, or 48 cents, at $26.01 in morning trade on the
New York Stock Exchange. Pixar shares were down 8 cents at $58.19 on Nasdaq.

The Wall Street Journal has reported that Disney is considering an all-stock offer, which would make Pixar Chief Executive
Steve Jobs the company's largest individual shareholder.

The Journal reported late on Monday that the offer under consideration would give Jobs, who has a controlling stake in Pixar, a seat on the Disney board.

Disney, for decades the world leader in hand-drawn animated films such as "Pinocchio" and "Lion King," has struggled in recent years to maintain its position in an industry that has embraced computer-generated films.

Although Disney has not produced a blockbuster animated film on its own in years, the six films Pixar and Disney made since the 1995 release of "Toy Story" have grossed more than $3.2 billion.

Jobs had feuded publicly with Iger's predecessor, Michael Eisner, and broke off negotiations for a new distribution agreement with Disney about two years ago.

Iger, who succeeded Eisner as Disney's CEO in October, made a priority of smoothing over relations with Jobs and was in the midst of renegotiating the distribution pact, which expires in June with the release of "Cars," when takeover rumors surfaced.

Jobs, who is also chief executive of Apple Computer Inc., has already led a revolution in digital delivery of content by providing legal downloads of music through Apple's iTunes Music Store and by striking a deal with Iger and Disney to offer video downloads of ABC television shows.

A deal that would give Jobs a Disney board seat could also put him in a position to lead Hollywood's move onto the Web.

The Disney board may also approve a buyer for the company's ABC Radio assets, worth an estimated $2.6 billion to $2.9 billion, from among several bidders.

Sources familiar with the radio transaction said on Friday that Disney was within a week or two of deciding on a buyer.
 
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Mark of the Wolves

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I don't really care as if I remember Pixar wanted more money since Disney really didn't do any of the hard work. Disney refused so they were going their separate ways. I guess this could make everyone happy...
 

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Mark of the Wolves said:
I don't really care as if I remember Pixar wanted more money since Disney really didn't do any of the hard work. Disney refused so they were going their separate ways. I guess this could make everyone happy...


Yeah I think it's widely accepted the original deal fell through because Michael Eisner and Steve Jobs hated each other's guts.

I think Disney with Iger at the helm has been looking at their past failures (chicken little?) and the impending final release of "Cars" really feels this is the time to try and snatch Pixar up before it's too late.
 

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Wow. Seems like that went down fast. As long as they keep making great movies for kids I guess. It works well for both though.
 

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Curt said:
Although like others I feel it is very important to keep John Lasseter happy, they should give him a raise. (They currently only pay him 3M a year)

3M a year isn't as much as it sounds, trust me.
 

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$7.4 billion, insane.

I really miss Disney's hand-drawn stuff, these past few years shit like Treasure Planet and Sinbad have been rolling off...sure, there's been some good works like Emperor's New Groove, but nothing as epic as The Lion King (which is the apex of Disney movies, IMHO).


Pixar's movies are wonderful (wasn't too thrilled with Incredibles, though), it just seems a new era is finally dawning over Disney.
 

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Well, it looks like Disney is securing their future. Pixar was so successful, it was only a matter of time before Disney knew they had to have them. It is an excellent move considering Pixar film grosses.

Alas, 2D animation has died; Disney shut down all their 2D animation studios some years ago (After Atlantis, Treasure Planet, etc.. They probably needed to).
 

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ViewtifulZFO said:
Disney shut down all their 2D animation studios some years ago

Wow, fuck.

Not the best way to exit...
 

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ViewtifulZFO said:
Well, it looks like Disney is securing their future. Pixar was so successful, it was only a matter of time before Disney knew they had to have them. It is an excellent move considering Pixar film grosses.

Alas, 2D animation has died; Disney shut down all their 2D animation studios some years ago (After Atlantis, Treasure Planet, etc.. They probably needed to).

(edit: I was thinking of Titan AE). Atlantis wasnt a failure.

They shut them down many years after that.

After Brother Bear and Home on the Range in 2001 - 2003 ish they were working on a project that was eventually just cancled and the studio liquidated.

Pretty soon after that they shutdown the Burbank studio. And then about a year later they shutdown the Australian studio (which was responsible for all of the animated shows for the Disney Channel).

This is kind of wierd, I saw an article yesterday that Paramount was going to buy Pixar.
 
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ViewtifulZFO said:
On that one, I meant not money, but quality. Treasure Planet lost quality AND money.

Atlantis was great.

Treasure Planet was a mistake.
 

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Personally, I think the 2D animation starting going downhill after Tarzan. Still, Atlantis seems to be missing that "Disney" vibe I usually get from these kind of movies.
 

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ViewtifulZFO said:
Personally, I think the 2D animation starting going downhill after Tarzan. Still, Atlantis seems to be missing that "Disney" vibe I usually get from these kind of movies.

Disney was on a roll with Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch and the Emporers New Groove. All well written with great animation.

Then they made Brother Bear and Home on the Range, two steaming piles of crap and the studio shut down.

And by "Disney" vibe I assume you mean the whole fairy tale type scenario with a hero, a princess in danger, some songs. Eh.
 

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You'd think after Lilo and Stitch they would have just tried harder. And with all those direct to video sequels they basically killed animated movies themselves. The only CG movie I really liked was Toy Story. All the others were annoying to me. The Incredibles was Incredible...just not something I would probably watch over again.
 

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Mushiki said:
3M a year isn't as much as it sounds, trust me.

Believe me I know, If you look at the list of Hollywood CEOS, CFOs etc, 3 million is downright meager.

Hence the [/I]. He deserves well more, but it seems he will be taking on the position of Chief Creative Officer, and will likely oversee pixar, and large portions of Disney as well. He'll be making alot more.
 
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Hopefully, this means Pixar quality will bleed unto regular Disney films and not the other way around.

I still want to know what the status is on that rumored Pixar 2D flick.

:buttrock:
 

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hermegildo said:
Hopefully, this means Pixar quality will bleed unto regular Disney films and not the other way around.

I still want to know what the status is on that rumored Pixar 2D flick.

:buttrock:

I keep hearing about this Disney / Dali collaboration called Destino that theyve shown a few times at film festivals and stuff.

Wouldnt know anything about that would you :emb:
 
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Can't say I do.

It wouldn't be 2D anyway since Disney laid off it's 2D animation department.

:annoyed:
 

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I don't know, I don't really like those kinds of movies. The only one I liked was Toy Story. The rest are kinda dumb.

I like the good old animated Disney movies like Bambi. That movie was awesome. Part two is going to be retardedly gay.
 

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ViewtifulZFO- 2D animation is dead in America. Last I checked, 2D animation is still alive and kicking... in Japan. Anime > American animation, 2D or 3D. :cool:
 
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ferrarimanf355 said:
ViewtifulZFO- 2D animation is dead in America. Last I checked, 2D animation is still alive and kicking... in Japan. Anime > American animation, 2D or 3D. :cool:
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Get the fuck out of this thread you stupid faggot.
 

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Meh, only Pixar flick I liked was The Incredibles

More a fan of Disney's tv toon( Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, etc )
 

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not holding onto pixar for dear life would be a terrible terrible mistake for disney.
they're like the killer app for family entertainment.
disney can't match their goods.
disney used to have some pretty entertaining fliks way back when.
i think it's sad to see 2d animation go the way of the dinosaur,
with pixar though it has always been packaged in with good writing though i guess.
but i know the work that goes into 3d animation, and it never reminded me of talent,
more of technical prowess.
 
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