So what exactly is going on in Canada?

[sylvie]

Tens of thousands?

Where is your outrage for the HUNDREDS of thousands furloughed by the lockdowns? It's hilarious that now you care about attacks against the economy and the working class. When you've been told it's time to be outraged by legacy media.

Keep in mind this dude is a psycho and tried to threaten me over an insignificant matter

 

[Xavier]

Is this for

Tens of thousands?

Where is your outrage for the HUNDREDS of thousands furloughed by the lockdowns? It's hilarious that now you care about attacks against the economy and the working class. When you've been told it's time to be outraged by legacy media.

Is this for real?

First off it was it was like tens of millions... in the US.
Billions probably worldwide.
Most everyone should have been given some sort of money or aid to make sure they were straight during it.

At least we were warned.
We were given information and a chance to stop it.
People wanted to make some sort of political statement about it though.
Would it have been better it we were kept in the dark and it just killed who it killed?

It's a million dead here in the US, 6 million dead worldwide.
I've brought up how it's probably several times that or at least not fully accounted for.
People act like it's nothing. Just try and imagine a million dead bodies, or even any other large number.
Think of the size of your town.

It's like AIDS in the 80's. For along time nobody cared.
Oh it's just dudes butt slamming each other and drug addicts who shoot up drugs. Gods way of punishing them.
Then Ryan White dies.

This is much worse though, it's affected everyone and to pretend like it wouldn't or won't is dangerous.

I'm still holding out hope it's going to burn out in the next month or two though.

 

[Xavier]

Keep in mind this dude is a psycho and tried to threaten me over an insignificant matter

^^^Thinks socialists are people who like to go parties and nightclubs^^^

Oh no ...you're the victim!

No you're a toxic troll chasing off members of the community.
Not sure it's worth the trade off.
Just trying to give you a spoonful of your own medicine.

Sneaking up on you and slamming the seat on your neck while your drinking out of the toilet is clearly meant to be a joke.
Very disturbing if you believed it but chances are your just trying to make drama.

 

[Lagduf]

The state should have compensated every business they forced to close down.

 

[SouthtownKid]

They need to do it lawfully and they've made their point. No need to bring down civilization with you.

Yeah, they might as well stop now and be as ineffectual and pointless as Occupy Wall Street was. You've made your point, kids! Time to go home with nothing accomplished.

And that "freedom to spread a virus" comment is so disingenuous. Even the WHO concedes we are beyond that point now.

 

[norton9478]

Tens of thousands?

Where is your outrage for the HUNDREDS of thousands furloughed by the lockdowns?

You mean the ones that went from making $200-$300 a week in a toxic environment to making $700-$800 a week on unemployment? Then when it was time to go back to work, they got a $3-$4 an hour pay bump? Meanwhile many of them realized that they don't want/have to work in that environment and are doing much better in new jobs.

All while saving hundreds and thousands to millions of lives.

Is that who you are talking about?

 

[norton9478]

The state should have compensated every business they forced to close down.

Who and what was forced to close?

 

[Xavier]

Yeah, they might as well stop now and be as ineffectual and pointless as Occupy Wall Street was. You've made your point, kids! Time to go home with nothing accomplished.

And that "freedom to spread a virus" comment is so disingenuous. Even the WHO concedes we are beyond that point now.

Yeah, now.

 

[sylvie]

^^^Thinks socialists are people who like to go parties and nightclubs^^^

Oh no ...you're the victim!

No you're a toxic troll chasing off members of the community.
Not sure it's worth the trade off.
Just trying to give you a spoonful of your own medicine.

Sneaking up on you and slamming the seat on your neck while your drinking out of the toilet is clearly meant to be a joke.
Very disturbing if you believed it but chances are your just trying to make drama.

lmbo wtf are you talking about

 

[Lagduf]

Who and what was forced to close?

In California numerous business were prevented from operating in 2020. Off the top of my head only hair salons come to mind.

IIRC This was a blanket closure, not a “you can operate with XYZ restrictions.”

Edit: I think you may be misunderstanding what I meant by “close down.”

 

[norton9478]

In California numerous business were prevented from operating in 2020. Off the top of my head only hair salons come to mind.

Ohh yeah, I remember now. Bowling allleys too.

 

[StevenK]

The businesses forced to close got off lightly, they could turn to their employees and say sorry, go home, this is out of my hands.

It was the businesses left with the illusion of being able to operate with no realistic chance of covering their wage bills through trade that have been royally fucked.

 

[Tw3ek]

We still have a mask mandate in CA for 3 more days

Here in LA county, we still have them ever after the state one is lifted

 

[norton9478]

So basically the protests in Canada are Peak Whiteness.

 

[LoneSage]

Xavier, I like you man, but you need to chill out about things that don't affect you personally and get some pussy.

 

[SouthtownKid]

You mean the ones that went from making $200-$300 a week in a toxic environment to making $700-$800 a week on unemployment? Then when it was time to go back to work, they got a $3-$4 an hour pay bump? Meanwhile many of them realized that they don't want/have to work in that environment and are doing much better in new jobs.

All while saving hundreds and thousands to millions of lives.

Is that who you are talking about?

Oh wow, this takes me back to when I was 12 and still believed things worked out just like the government promised. "And then, everyone magically got their jobs back at higher pay or got new careers at new companies, and no one was ever toxic again." Simpler times.

I was going to ask if you were really this stupid, but then I remembered who I was responding to.

Who and what was forced to close?

holy shit.

 

[norton9478]

Oh wow, this takes me back to when I was 12 and still believed things worked out just like the government promised. "And then, everyone magically got their jobs back at higher pay or got new careers at new companies, and no one was ever toxic again." Simpler times.

So you do concede that furloughed workers did indeed make more on unemployment than they would have made working?

But hey.... Go cheer on the plight of the anti-vax bordertards.

 

[SouthtownKid]

Yeah, now.

You've been past the point in the US for a long time, if not always. So where is the course correction? Why are they doubling down on the same tactics that already aren't helping anything except the government's long-held dream of dismantling the middle class? I'm asking as someone living in Japan, where the government decided to focus efforts on actually protecting those at risk, rather than shut down the entire economy and destroy everyone's lives.

You throw out a number like 6 million dead as if it was just striking randomly at all ages and demographics. As if a 12 year old kid was as likely to be hospitalized and die as a retiree in their 70s or something.

 

[norton9478]

There is no such thing as a middle class.

But the working class is stronger post covid. Donald Trump ended the 40 year hold of sado-monetarism against working people.

 

[SouthtownKid]

So you do concede that furloughed workers did indeed make more on unemployment than they would have made working?

No. I do not concede that, you simple fuck. Unemployment is not a solution to anything, and they don't just hand it out to everyone. There's a lot of shit you have to go through, and just like any insurance company, they try their fucking best not to pay out. Unemployment insurance also does not last 3 years.

And I love how in your fantasy world, all the companies that went out of business were "toxic environments", and your reduction of the protests to "antivax". It's like life to you is a bedtime story told to you by your dad featuring Star Wars characters in a cartoon world where you never have to think about anything. There are no subtleties, like small businesses that weren't "toxic", where people lost not only their dreams, but zny possibility at recapturing their chance at a dream.

 

[norton9478]

I'm asking as someone living in Japan, where the government decided to focus efforts on actually protecting those at risk, rather than shut down the entire economy and destroy everyone's lives.

This sounds like the US approach.

Japan extends COVID-19 emergency lockdown as cases surge

Japan on Tuesday extended its state of emergency in Tokyo and other regions and announced new measures covering seven more prefectures to counter a spike in COVID-19 infections that is threatening the medical system.

www.reuters.com

 

[norton9478]

No. I do not concede that, you simple fuck. Unemployment is not a solution to anything, and they don't just hand it out to everyone. There's a lot of shit you have to go through, and just like any insurance company, they try their fucking best not to pay out. Unemployment insurance also does not last 3 years.

You asked specifically about people who were furloughed.

Furloughed workers are open and shut eligible for unemployment. Companies don't fight the cases of furloughed workers because they want them to come back.

 

[norton9478]

like small businesses that weren't "toxic",

You were specifically talking about furloughed workers.

 

[SouthtownKid]

There is no such thing as a middle class.

But the working class is stronger post covid.

lol okay, now I know you're just trolling.

 

[norton9478]

lol okay, now I know you're just trolling.

Wages are increasing. Unemployment is crazy low. McDonalds is offering $16 an hour.