SNKP Gives Official Response to Cardfighters Glitch.

[not sonic]

You say shit like "(Insert noun here) is (Insert adjective here) at best" waaaaay too much. Not an attack, just an observation.

This post is observational at best.

 

[Ajax]

This post is observational at best.

P.S. Did you get my PM at the, er, other place? The server there is mediocre at best.

 

[not sonic]

P.S. Did you get my PM at the, er, other place? The server there is mediocre at best.

your pm was replied to at best.

 

[Jedah Doma]

You say shit like "(Insert noun here) is (Insert adjective here) at best" waaaaay too much. Not an attack, just an observation.

Yea, that is true. I'm not sure why. It's just one of those phrases I use over and over.

I'm a phrase whore.

@not sonic: I pre-ordered the game the first of the year. The reason I didn't pick it up was because I heard about the game breaking glitch. It's still a bad release no matter if I did or did not reserve it. Is there a SNK l33t test one must pass in order to complain about SNK?

 

[not sonic]

Yea, that is true. I'm not sure why. It's just one of those phrases I use over and over.

I'm a phrase whore.

@not sonic: I pre-ordered the game the first of the year. The reason I didn't pick it up was because I heard about the game breaking glitch. It's still a bad release no matter if I did or did not reserve it. Is there a SNK l33t test one must pass in order to complain about SNK?

it was mostly aimed at bobak.

 

[Violent Ryo]

i bet 90% of you motherfuckers complaining about the bug werent even going to / didnt buy the game.

im also pretty sure that everyone who still rags on snkp for sucking ass hasnt played ngbc or kofxi.

lol...i'm willing to bet along with you..

 

[aria]

it was mostly aimed at bobak.

Oh wow, one of the New Jersey Sonics is throw yet another lame insult (mostly because they don't read posts). There's a reason you're "not sonic", and that's because you were banned for being a troll and you still remain a troll-light even today.

 

[aria]

This thread has revealed something interesting:

The arguments defending SNK tend reveal people who can't either recognize or understand the gravity of a major product failure and the expected organizational consequences. They apparently want to believe that blaming the right person for the failure (management) isn't something that should be vigorously pursued.

So I take it that those of you who truly believe that we're too harsh don't invest in any public companies (where such an action would be expected), or don't work for a company where you would be fired for that sort of thing?

Seriously, if you can't take one argument separate from whatever attitudes you subjectively perceive on this website, then you might want to put video games aside for a few months and get perspective --look at how the real world operates, then come back and keep whining about "oh, but they made a good fighting game last year". The two points do not connect. This is about now, and now they messed up.

 

[not sonic]

haha im a troll because i pointed out the truth?

you werent going to buy cfc:ds, so why do you care?

i bet you didnt buy kof01,02,03,nw,xi ssv,ssvs,ssvi, ms4, 5, 6, etcetc. based soley on other peoples' opinions and the playmore logo.

you fail to recognize that some of us are snk fans first and neogeo fans second. XI is a significant improvement in the series.

if you dont like kof, what are you expecting? snk doesnt have the name or the money to create next gen titles like capcom can. theyve gotta get money from somewhere or theyre just going to die off.


i recognize that the bug in cfc:ds is bad. but its also been pointed out that it was due to manufacturing and not the code specifically. they're fixing the problem, what the fuck else do you want from them? to go back in time and rerelease the game? the game you werent even going to buy yet have all this fury about?

 

[evil wasabi]

you fail to recognize that some of us are snk fans first and neogeo fans second. XI is a significant improvement in the series.

SNK hasn't made a game in 7 years. You're not some SNK fan OR Neo Geo fan, don't fool yourself. If you had any admiration for SNK, even if just an inkling, you would never make that mistake.

 

[not sonic]

bro have you played XI?

its the best kof, "playmore" or not.


all the game on the neo were shitty rehashes because the hardware was done.

 

[aria]

you fail to recognize that some of us are snk fans first and neogeo fans second.

[. . .]

i recognize that the bug in cfc:ds is bad. but its also been pointed out that it was due to manufacturing and not the code specifically. they're fixing the problem, what the fuck else do you want from them? to go back in time and rerelease the game? the game you werent even going to buy yet have all this fury about?

So you're saying that because you're a SNK-fanboy, simply admitting a major mess-up is all SNK has to do. You assume that business are run like families, and that as long as mother forgives, everything is okay. You also seem to assume that whether the error was manufacturing vs. coding has anything to do with whether management should be blamed for running a bad ship (your assesment is wrong anyway --clearly you haven't been reading the posts by actual programmers in this thread). Well, that's not how business works. Before you attempt to make another defense of SNK's business, you should probably ask your parents for tips on the real world.

 

[Jedah Doma]

bro have you played XI?

its the best kof, "playmore" or not.


all the game on the neo were shitty rehashes because the hardware was done.

Sorry to stick my nose in, but I still don't see how playing every damn release put out by SNK/Playmore gives you access into the "OMG SNK BALLAS CLUB". So you played the newest KOF, big fuckin' whoop-dee-doo. You act like your opinion matters more because you wasted 10 more minutes of your life then the rest of us. So yes, your gaming cock is bigger then mine or anyone else on this board for that matter.

But let's just say I pre-ordered every game with SNK plastered on it until the year 2054, would I then have the right to complain about said company? Really, all this BS is getting in the way of the main issue which was a screw up by SNK. Whether it's coding, programming, or because some janitor took a dump on the final copy, SNK still is screwed up bottom line.

 

[not sonic]

lol bobak, makin some age jokes. its not funny when im not 15 anymore.

i said they made a mistake. and they fixed it. what the fuck else do you want thats what i want to know. youve been railing on them for like 4 pages now. what else do you want? do you want the company to shut down because of one bad product? you act like its some life or death situation where cfc is going to cost lives. theyre fucking videogames man.


i think its relevant to bring up how good XI is to prove my point that snkp CAN MAKE GOOD GAMES.

and acually playing the games allows me to formulate my OWN opinion about the games vs just going off someone elses's.

preorder does not equal purchase and play.

 

[Jedah Doma]

lol bobak, makin some age jokes. its not funny when im not 15 anymore.

i said they made a mistake. and they fixed it. what the fuck else do you want thats what i want to know. youve been railing on them for like 4 pages now. what else do you want? do you want the company to shut down because of one bad product? you act like its some life or death situation where cfc is going to cost lives. theyre fucking videogames man.


i think its relevant to bring up how good XI is to prove my point that snkp CAN MAKE GOOD GAMES.

and acually playing the games allows me to formulate my OWN opinion about the games vs just going off someone elses's.

preorder does not equal purchase and play.

So in order to be part of the "OMG SNK BALLAS CLUB", one must also buy buggy crappy games? Is there a membership fee as well?

 

[not sonic]

i dont even know what the fuck youre talking about anymore.

im saying dont blindly assume everything snkp makes is shit. because its not. PLAY the fuckin games before you pass judgement.

 

[evil wasabi]

i dont even know what the fuck youre talking about anymore.

im saying dont blindly assume everything snkp makes is shit. because its not. PLAY the fuckin games before you pass judgement.

well typically you should never be prejudiced, but frankly, no one really cares about KoF XI here. The thread is about CFC. And after the 15+ games that SNKP put out, and 15+ of them being weak compared to the SNK games, I wouldn't dare refer to SNKP as SNK. In reality, it should just be called Playmore. Leave the SNK where it belongs - in history. No need to smear the name of SNK with this new bullshit.

Again, I don't give a damn about XI. Why would I? The fact is, Playmore has fucked up on so many occasions that it's not even about "a mistake" but more along the lines of habitual negligence and sloppy business practices.

 

[not sonic]

becasue xi is actually good.

their previous efforts reflect how the company was going through hard times.

i can understand the hate on the neo games. theyre not that great, and certaintly not better than the games in the same series pre 2000.

but xi is good. as is cfc (minus the bug of course.)

i think if i was a big samsho fan i would be incredibly upset with how they've handled it. but im not. im more of a last blade fan and im glad they didnt touch it between 00-04. now that theyre on new hardware, i wouldnt mind seeing a redone lb. especially considering how much they would seem to be putting into XII.

i hope xii will change everyones minds about snkp.

 

[Deuce]

They apparently want to believe that blaming the right person for the failure (management) isn't something that should be vigorously pursued.

Ah, yes, the ever-popular "you don't know how things work in the real world" argument. A nice, sweeping (and ultimately meaningless) generalization, which neatly sidesteps the fact that SNKP just might not be the only player at fault here. I'm not going to repeat the point again, because if you haven't read it by now, you're obviously not going to.

Sure, someone deserves to be made to pay for the screwup. But the fact of the matter is, no one here knows precisely who that is, no matter how much invective or wordy arguments one might like to bandy about. It's much easier to simply blame SNKP immediately, because you already have a rich and storied bias against them. But you don't know any more than I do.

And it's quite obvious, at this point, that even if the game had been fantastic, it would not have swayed you. The impression that you're enjoying this whole fiasco is both inescapable and indelible. You want SNKP to fail, so why not just come clean and say it outright rather than dance around it?

I may not agree with Charles (in the slightest), nor do I think he's being rational, but I'll at least give him credit for being up front about his opinion.

 

[evil wasabi]

I may not agree with Charles (in the slightest), nor do I think he's being rational, but I'll at least give him credit for being up front about his opinion.

Define rational.

 

[hermegildo]

I was planning on getting CFC for sure.

But then I heard the game sucked.

Cheers.

 

[darkkrisp]

Glad they are replacing the cart. Sucks that I have to stop playing since all progress will be lost since they are replacing the cart. Would be F"ing awesome if they could transfer your save data to the new cart.

 

[Deuce]

Define rational.

Willing to give credit where credit is due. My impression is that you are not willing to concede that SNKP has made anything even remotely good, or even if they did so in the future, admitting the fact.

No more, no less. After this comment:

after the 15+ games that SNKP put out, and 15+ of them being weak compared to the SNK games

I can't help thinking you're being more than a little unfair, particularly since they've actually put out some top-notch stuff.

 

[evil wasabi]

Willing to give credit where credit is due. My impression is that you are not willing to concede that SNKP has made anything even remotely good, or even if they did so in the future, admitting the fact.

No more, no less. After this comment:

I can't help thinking you're being more than a little unfair, particularly since they've actually put out some top-notch stuff.

I give credit where it's due, but on the same token, I give criticism where it is due as well. These games are all substandard. The Samurai Shodown 0, 0S, and Tenka are terrible, unless compared to something you might make yourself with Mugen.

I haven't played KoFXI, and I'm not going to comment on it, but I will comment on what I have experienced, and my opinion is that these games are crap compared to what came before them.

I'm trying to think of a playmore game that I would consider worthy of the SNK logo.

... If I come up with one I'll let you know, but none come to mind.

 

[Deuce]

I give credit where it's due, but on the same token, I give criticism where it is due as well. These games are all substandard. The Samurai Shodown 0, 0S, and Tenka are terrible, unless compared to something you might make yourself with Mugen.

I'll freely concede that 0 and 0S are lousy, but I found Tenka to be quite enjoyable... the first 2D SS game I've enjoyed since SS3 and SS!2 on NGPC. I do miss the Slash/Bust system, though.