SNK-P thinks it can set your morals (SSVS)... what do you think?

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galfordo said:
I'd be willing to help out in whatever way I can. I just got finished writing a long letter to SNKP about this whole debacle. Not that anyone there will care, but it felt good to get it off of my chest. Anyway ....

I will also be sending my thoughts to SNK-p regarding this situation.


Everyone who truly cares about this should do the same. Try to make the e-mails/faxes/letters as well thought-out and professional as you can manage
 

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Stinky-Dinkins said:
I will also be sending my thoughts to SNK-p regarding this situation.


Everyone who truly cares about this should do the same. Try to make the e-mails/faxes/letters as well thought-out and professional as you can manage
Are you talking about sending to SNK USA, or Playmore? If SNK USA, I don't think it will have any result as they don't seem to have any input into anything, or even knowledge of anything until it happens. If you plan to send to Playmore, are they set up to receive comments not in Japanese? Do they care? I love 'em, but signs point to "no". It would be a good idea if the japanese speaking members, especially those based in Japan, could speak for the rest of us.

Like all actions this baffling, there is probably a motive we are not aware of (or at least not the extent of). I'd like to know what it was.
 

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SouthtownKid said:
It would be a good idea if the japanese speaking members, especially those based in Japan, could speak for the rest of us.

Then perhaps a petition or article of some kind would be most appropriate...
 

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I know i've said it before, buy why on the FINAL release????

Seriously Playmore, you're charging over $300 for this! Don't go out an sell a different product you advertized...
 

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OMG I paid $300+ for a game and its not all I hoped it would be!!!!111


playmores been screwing you since they arrived, you want change, stop buying their games and finally they will stop staining the neo's franchises such as metal slug, king of fighters, samurai shodown, and finally go away.

I mean, how can you pick up a game with a 5 or 6 in the title and expect it to be full of new innnovative features?, its blatantly an extension of a well-earning franchise.. for MONEY

they don't give a shit about you, only your money. They could release SSVS UBER with the fatalities, and then you muppets would own ssv,ssvs, and ssvsU because OMG they are all so vital.

said it once, say it again , screw SNKP
 

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I wonder why SNKP did'nt go all out and just remove the blood too.. Was this some type of compromise they made with the soccer mom committee??
Yes children,if you hack a man approximately 20-30 times with a sword,they'll bleed,get tired after awhile and lay down for a nap... :rolleyes:
The ten year old sprtes they use are too realistic so I understand :rolleyes:
Anybody remember when Daffy Duck used to get his face blown off by the hunter and Daffy Duck just looked at the camera in disgust?? Did that ever inspire you to go out and shoot your friend or family in the face for fun??
censorship can never replace education!
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galfordo said:
They just might .... so start writing, people! :buttrock:

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED

The problem is that we'd rather have it look organized and 'professional' and have enough people participate. What's it going to mean to SNK-P if 12 people send a letter in the mail? Nothing. What will it mean if 1/2 the supposed members here (4000) all send letters on the same day and they get 4000 angry fan letters in 2-3 days time? A lot more than people think.

We need someone to spearhead the effort.
 

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so the homecarts nearly on the shelf

you know

its been coded, manufactured, the artworks done, its finished

and now you expect a petition to change it all around?

do you honestly think they will listen? you're silly if you do.

is there any english story mode in SSVS?

oh I guess they forgot that too.

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I think it is sad indeed. They gave us a totally uncensored version of MS3 on X-Box, yet a home release to an even more dedicated fan base gets censored? That just seems odd to me. Why censor a version of a game (especially the last) that is for the hardest of the hardcore. I mean the AES guys spend so much more money for the home release most of the time, yet they get the short end of the stick. I just think it's uncalled for and Playmore really dropped the ball on this one. It's not the biggest deal in the wold, but not a sure way to make the last game on a system remebered well. It just puts a scuff on an otherwise nice ending. Hopefully in the future they will wise up and realize gamers are adults too.
 

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I like the idea, I'll do whatever I can.

However if thiwas done on a worldwide scale, don't we need support from neocollectors outside the US? Where's is beezle and others? What's the reaction in Japan?
 

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I guess forum debates will really heat up today since ss0s hit the shelves.
not that there have not already been related threads in different Japanese
message boards with a lot of angry fans. some people even wondered
whether this move was due to the western market having more strict
regulations then the Japanese...
 

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If you think that a bunch of letters will do something, you are on heavy drugs.

SUE. They are legally wrong. SUE. That's the first time that we can sue them for selling censored AES. Take the chance.

I wish the best to Shawn for everything that he done, but everybody should ask for a refund in first place. If Shawn contact SNKP about the customers returning carts because a SNKP fault, they will need to do something. legally, they are obligated to refund Shawn if he loss something because a fault in their product.

And I would love to see lots o heavy AES carts flying through the SNKP broken windows :smirk:
 

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drone9 said:
some people even wondered
whether this move was due to the western market having more strict
regulations then the Japanese...

"some people" would be delusional to think such a thing, in this day and age. It's silly to try and pawn this off an "America's fault" :rolleyes: .... maye if this were 11 years ago and the Neo Geo AES were a SNES. :spock:
 

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galfordo said:
"some people" would be delusional to think such a thing, in this day and age. It's silly to try and pawn this off an "America's fault" :rolleyes: .... maye if this were 11 years ago and the Neo Geo AES were a SNES. :spock:
you're right of course.
but not everyone in Japan knows what is legal and what not outside.
I was merely stating what I read at a bbs. ;)
 

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galfordo said:
It's silly to try and pawn this off an "America's fault" :rolleyes:

He makes a good point -- here in America it's standard procedure to just blame Canada for everything.
 

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drone9 said:
you're right of course.
but not everyone in Japan knows what is legal and what not outside.
I was merely stating what I read at a bbs. ;)

Maybe this is just me, but I would expect any video game publisher to have a better understanding of the current American feeling toward video game violence. I haven't seen this level of censorship since Mortal Kombat for the SNES. I feel like I've been transported back in time to 1994 ....
 

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Verythrax said:
If you think that a bunch of letters will do something, you are on heavy drugs.

SUE. They are legally wrong. SUE. That's the first time that we can sue them for selling censored AES. Take the chance.

I wish the best to Shawn for everything that he done, but everybody should ask for a refund in first place. If Shawn contact SNKP about the customers returning carts because a SNKP fault, they will need to do something. legally, they are obligated to refund Shawn if he loss something because a fault in their product.

And I would love to see lots o heavy AES carts flying through the SNKP broken windows :smirk:


I like this idea very much!
 

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you got my point, right?
I only summed up a Japanese homecart buyer saying:
"..might it be due to the non Japanese market? how strict are they there?..."
of course this is bullshit and it would be really stupid if this was the reason.
but I don't think it was anyway. :rolleyes:
 

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Just like you can read in an other fatalities related thread, playmore has blocked the fatalities due to a large amount of complaints from the japanese customers. You see they listen customers, it's just that they don't listen YOU

You all know that the japanese video games production has always been influenced by the japanese customers base. It's not only playmore. All the companies please first the local market then think about the rest of the world.

It's not very pleasent to hear but that's it.
 

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Robert said:
Just like you can read in an other fatalities related thread, playmore has blocked the fatalities due to a large amount of complaints from the japanese customers. You see they listen customers, it's just that they don't listen YOU

You all know that the japanese video games production has always been influenced by the japanese customers base. It's not only playmore. All the companies please first the local market then think about the rest of the world.

It's not very pleasent to hear but that's it.

Is the Japanese market for this home cart really that large? From what I understand, there wasn't going to be a production of the home cart if Shawn hadn't requested it.
 

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Robert said:
Just like you can read in an other fatalities related thread, playmore has blocked the fatalities due to a large amount of complaints from the japanese customers. You see they listen customers, it's just that they don't listen YOU

You all know that the japanese video games production has always been influenced by the japanese customers base. It's not only playmore. All the companies please first the local market then think about the rest of the world.

It's not very pleasent to hear but that's it.

The manual says that they were removed because the complaints at the arcades. The home cart userbaseis another thing.

How many times a movie is censored in the theaters, abd you have to buy the VHS/DVD to watch the uncut version? Why in the games it's the opposite?
 

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galfordo said:
Is the Japanese market for this home cart really that large? From what I understand, there wasn't going to be a production of the home cart if Shawn hadn't requested it.

The production of US homecarts exists cause Shawn's initiative.

Home cart userbase in Japan is big, considering what was said in various threads since I'm here.
 
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Here is my 2 cents if any of you care. I think a universal petition and a letter would be good. Someone draft a universal letter that is first in English then translated into Japanese and have two copies (one English and one Japanese) sent off to both SNKP of Japan and SNKP of U.S. Then have an online petition as well and E-Mail the results to both companies. Think of each company getting one letter from each of us. And all it would take is a few of us, shelling out $.37 to mail to the U.S. and probably $1.50 (guess here) to Japan. And/or fax the letters as well. This might turn a few heads. But overall, I am not going to jump on this until I know for a fact that there is no code or something of that effect for the fatalities. I currently own the Japanese version of the game and was shocked that even this version had no fatalities (or at least the ones seen on the website). Also a print out and/or snapshot should be made of the website (with a date included) with the fatalities pictured. This should be sent along with the petition. The main fact this is bullshit (besides all the other reasons) is that if this had something to do with censorship, then why the blood and the less brutal fatalities? What is the difference between someone getting a head cut off as opposed to getting a sword rammed through there gut? Either way that is violence and shows death. Then again this is the only country that produces porn but censores it. That still pisses me off! This might not be a SNKP thing after all, it seems something much larger was involved. But I am waiting for more facts before I act. However, I am in 100% when an idea is becomes real. I really hate paying $359.00 for a game that isn't complete.
 
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