Sheriff called to school - knocks female student on the ground.

[Kristian Meller]

Look at your opposition. Most even after seeing the shocking video argue she had it coming while grasping anything they can to justify it.

The majority of users on this site also seem to be in agreement that school shootings are an acceptable alternative to the school bombings you'd have if there were no guns.

I wouldn't put much stock in the general opinion on these matters here.

 

[smokehouse]

The majority of users on this site also seem to be in agreement that school shootings are an acceptable alternative to the school bombings you'd have if there were no guns.

I wouldn't put much stock in the general opinion on these matters here.

I don't put much stock in your opinions concerning US matters considering you live in a completely different cultural climate, half a world away. I don't involve myself in foreign matters, perhaps you should try doing the same some time.

 

[Kristian Meller]

That's a load of BS. The US and my country are more similar than not. Both are developed, wealthy countries with "western" cultures.

School shootings, bombings and whatever else you can come up with and police officers throwing passively resisting teenagers (no, she did not punch him, her arms were flailing from being thrown to the ground) are wrong in most if not all cultures. It takes a special collection of assholes for the dominant opinion to be that what the police officer in the video did was OK.

 

[smokehouse]

That's a load of BS. The US and my country are more similar than not. Both are developed, wealthy countries with "western" cultures.

School shootings, bombings and whatever else you can come up with and police officers throwing passively resisting teenagers (no, she did not punch him, her arms were flailing from being thrown to the ground) are wrong in most if not all cultures. It takes a special collection of assholes for the dominant opinion to be that what the police officer in the video did was OK.

I guess we'll have to disagree on that first part...I really don't feel our countries/cultures are the same. I'm pretty sure it would be a culture shock for either of us if we were to swap places.

As for you other comments...I'm guessing you aren't addressing me directly because I didn't condone the officer's actions. In short, all I said is "shit happens" and you do your best to clean up the mess afterwards.

 

[DNSDies]

The majority of users on this site also seem to be in agreement that school shootings are an acceptable alternative to the school bombings you'd have if there were no guns.

I wouldn't put much stock in the general opinion on these matters here.

I hate to bring up an old topic, but you did it first, so:

Fuck you and your stupid fucking strawman fallacy.
Nobody in that thread said shootings were preferable to bombings or vice versa. The argument that was made was that banning guns does NOTHING to stop criminals from using them or just graduating to new ways to kill people.

Your custom rank really does suit you.

 

[evil wasabi]

That's a load of BS. The US and my country are more similar than not. Both are developed, wealthy countries with "western" cultures.

School shootings, bombings and whatever else you can come up with and police officers throwing passively resisting teenagers (no, she did not punch him, her arms were flailing from being thrown to the ground) are wrong in most if not all cultures. It takes a special collection of assholes for the dominant opinion to be that what the police officer in the video did was OK.

It doesn't matter how you feel because you are still an outsider. America doesn't care what Denmark, England, Australia, or even Canada thinks. America only cares what its own people think, and even then not so much, since the internal social infrastructure is bifurcated such that conservatives only care about what their base thinks, and liberals only care what CNN tells them to think.

This is similar to other places who also don't care what America thinks, such as China and Russia.

 

[Kristian Meller]

Fuck you and your stupid fucking strawman fallacy.

Fuck you, you fucking n00b.

 

[Kristian Meller]

I'm pretty sure it would be a culture shock for either of us if we were to swap places.

Not the same, just "more similar than not"

I've hung out with quite a few Americans during my time at university and when I worked for an NGO, and the term "culture shock" was never brought up. Of course it's different in many ways, but in more ways it isn't.

 

[SonGohan]

I'm pretty sure it would be a culture shock for either of us if we were to swap places.

Sounds like a wacky sitcom. I'm in.

 

[Luke Moerse]

Sounds like a wacky sitcom. I'm in.

Funny you should mention that...

I am currently working on a sitcom that focuses on 6 different people whose only connection to one another is their membership on an online forum.

I'm basing it off of my experiences on this forum and it's going to be a lot like the show "Friends", except none of these people are actually friends and none of them are attractive.

 

[ki_atsushi]

Funny you should mention that...

I am currently working on a sitcom that focuses on 6 different people whose only connection to one another is their membership on an online forum.

I'm basing it off of my experiences on this forum and it's going to be a lot like the show "Friends", except none of these people are actually friends and none of them are attractive.

Hahaha, sounds awesome. One of them has to be a murderer, and another (or 2!) has to crossdress.

 

[SonGohan]

Funny you should mention that...

I am currently working on a sitcom that focuses on 6 different people whose only connection to one another is their membership on an online forum.

I'm basing it off of my experiences on this forum and it's going to be a lot like the show "Friends", except none of these people are actually friends and none of them are attractive.

I guess I'm out.

 

[DNSDies]

Apparently, a SRO (not the same one) gave a nice detailed post on reddit giving his opinion on the situation as a fellow SRO.

It's a good read:

https://archive.is/TRuk4

 

[smokehouse]

Funny you should mention that...

I am currently working on a sitcom that focuses on 6 different people whose only connection to one another is their membership on an online forum.

I'm basing it off of my experiences on this forum and it's going to be a lot like the show "Friends", except none of these people are actually friends and none of them are attractive.

Sweet...I'm in...

...and another (or 2!) has to crossdress.

I can probably swing that...I have nice legs...

 

[norton9478]

And yeah, the officer was a bit excessive. But the video isn't that bad. She swung, and she's got her chair flipped back, and dragged out like the little child she was acting like. She's old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. And she wasn't injured.

People need to quit blaming others for the consequences of THEIR actions. When you act stupid, you should expect consequences.

A bit of a contradiction between these two statements..... No?

 

[GohanX]

Apparently, a SRO (not the same one) gave a nice detailed post on reddit giving his opinion on the situation as a fellow SRO.

It's a good read:

https://archive.is/TRuk4

You're right, that was a good read.

 

[greedostick]

A bit of a contradiction between these two statements..... No?

You're right, there is. But a BIT is the keyword. She's wasn't injured, and she didn't listen after multiple attempts. It's really a tough decision since she swung on him.

Being an officer right now is not easy. You go into this wanting to do good, and get shat all over. If I remember correctly, at least in Ohio, attacking an officer is a felony offense. I'm sure there are some lawyers here that can step in and speak on that. If you are an officer, and someone tries to assault them you don't dick around and see how things develop. You take them down before things get worse. I have seen officers assaulted, and I know it is very much a reality someone could go for your gun. I have seen it first hand. If someone attacks you, they're that much more likely to take the next step.

What had happened if he kept playing nice, and she did grab his gun and fired? He would still be fired. It's not an easy choice for the officer, especially when any of you have ever been in a fight probably know, once attacked your instincts take precedence over rules your job creates to protect people who mean you harm. Civilians have all the rights. In order for that scenario to be accepted she would have had to take his gun, and he would have had to disarm an armed child.

What it comes down to is following the rules of your job, over your own safety. Screw that, I would choose my safety, and the other children in that classroom. Especially if I had kids and a wife. I wouldn't go out leaving my family hanging cause some punk brat didn't want to put away her phone so she could Facebook text or play candy crush saga.

 

[evil wasabi]

Apparently, a SRO (not the same one) gave a nice detailed post on reddit giving his opinion on the situation as a fellow SRO.

It's a good read:

https://archive.is/TRuk4

Basically, the fault lies also on the teacher and principal who foolishly called in the SRO to handle a non criminal situation.

 

[GohanX]

I'd buy that.

 

[greedostick]

Basically, the fault lies also on the teacher and principal who foolishly called in the SRO to handle a non criminal situation.

True that. They could have just finished class, and suspended her. I completely agree. Although she probably wanted a suspension cause I doubt she has decent grades as much of a spoiled brat as she is.

 

[DNSDies]

There's enough blame to go around everywhere.

Every person involved involved in this can take a bite of that.
The parents, for not teaching their child.
The teacher, for not handling it better.
The administrator, for escalating a disciplinary action into a criminal one.
The other students, for not calling her out on her shit behavior.
The SRO for not taking a second to realize that when all his peaceful options were exhausted, he needed to plan things better and maybe call one of the other SROs to help him carry her out of the room, empty the classroom, etc.

This is all said with the benefit of an outside eye and not being in the heat of the moment.

It was a fucked situation all around, and while I think the officer needed SOME discipline for his actions, firing him for it is the wrong move, and sends the wrong message.

 

[Tripredacus]

I can't believe they still make 1 piece desks.

 

[smokehouse]

I can't believe they still make 1 piece desks.

You know, its funny...I was thinking the same thing. Those damn things are just horribly uncomfortable...they were 20 years ago...

Nothing like sitting in an uncomfortable class, in an uncomfortable chair.

 

[HDRchampion]

Also, apparently she doesn't have any parents. Her mom died recently & has a foster mom. She is a new student who doesn't talk much according to her classmate. Who knows if that's true but whatever, the cop shouldn't have even been there. Maybe its just that school but i never had cops unless they were part of the D.A.R.E. program.

Kids act up all the time, especially teenagers. Similar incident happen when i was in highshool kid didn't want to take off his hat. Teacher went back in forth yelling match with him. He didn't take it off, he didn't go to the principle office but the following day he wasn't wearing his hat anymore.

Really though, everyone should be punished.

Cop lose his job, probably should go to jail
Teacher & Administrator needs training
Kid should get suspended

 

[Poonman]

Not the same, just "more similar than not"

America is a kleptocracy shithole with a sellout government.
It's immigrant blaming, vanishing middle class and rising poverty is more like Wiemar Germany...only with too much banal entertainment, too many diversionary toys, and too many apathetic, fat sacks of shit riding around in rascals for anyone to bother turning full on militant.

What's Denmark? A monocultural, monolinguistic, egalitarian, socialist nation with the population of Toronto.

If you want to experience Americas shittyness firsthand, just keep taking in those (rape)ugees from "Syria"...I promise you in no time they will drag your standard of living down to Americas level and at the very least, you'll start considering the merits of gun ownership sooner or later.