Sheriff called to school - knocks female student on the ground.

[TonK]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/

Should she have just LEFT?

Sheriff too forceful?

Let's hear it.

 

[Rot]

Cap 'em...

...one in the chest... two in the head...

It's the only way they'll learn...

xROTx

 

[smokehouse]

Hard telling...

I'm no officer of the law, but what are you to do at that point? Cop says "get up, lets go." and you just sit there. At some point, the cop is going to use force to make you leave.

Should he have chucked her around like a rag doll? Yeah, probably not...then again, fuck with the bull an' all...

Without being there, it's pretty hard to say.

 

[TonK]

Family is gonna get PAID tho.

Cops being baited into lawsuits is the norm now.

 

[StevenK]

My first reaction was I deserved that and more when I was at school, so yeah, fuck her.

 

[smokehouse]

Family is gonna get PAID tho.

Cops being baited into lawsuits is the norm now.

This won't stop until some silly laws are passed. These kinds know that a cop (more than likely) won't kill them...just beat them up a bit. They then know that they'll be on CNN, getting paid and have Obama call them his "children"...

My first reaction was I deserved that and more when I was at school, so yeah, fuck her.

Me too...BUT...I was never dumb enough to provoke a cop...

 

[DNSDies]

Cap 'em...

...one in the chest... two in the head...

It's the only way they'll learn...

xROTx

Other way around, Rot.
Djibouti Shooty technique is two in the chest, one in the head.

People need to stop trying to fight the police during an arrest. It's not going to go well for you. If you have a legitimate complaint, sue them.

You'll hurt them more in the pocket book.

 

[smokehouse]

Other way around, Rot.
Djibouti Shooty technique is two in the chest, one in the head.

People need to stop trying to fight the police during an arrest. It's not going to go well for you. If you have a legitimate complaint, sue them.

You'll hurt them more in the pocket book.

I seems to me she just parked her ass in that desk and refused to move.

Like I said before, i really don't know the law on this...but I do know if an officer tells you to get your ass up and leave (in an area where he has the authority to do so)...you're leaving one way or another. Hard way, easy way...doesn't matter, you're leaving. that girl was dumb enough to think she could simply wait it out or something.

That tactic seems to piss police off mighty quick...

 

[FilthyRear]

Lawyers say "don't talk to cops", which is sound advice.

However, if a cop is going to arrest you, he's going to arrest you. There's is no version of the story where they'll say "Ya know? I'm not gonna arrest you." - will NEVER happen. Sitting there and mouthing off like a fucking 4 year old isn't going to help you case much.

 

[norton9478]

Somehow, I don't think that is the proper way to remove a student. Going ass over tea-kettle in a desk.
She could have had her neck broken.

If the parent of a child removed them in that matter, they would be arrested for child abuse and reckless endangerment.
They would temporarily lose custody of all children.

And a student should never be arrested for any of that shit.

 

[smokehouse]

Lawyers say "don't talk to cops", which is sound advice.

However, if a cop is going to arrest you, he's going to arrest you. There's is no version of the story where they'll say "Ya know? I'm not gonna arrest you." - will NEVER happen. Sitting there and mouthing off like a fucking 4 year old isn't going to help you case much.

Trashy people think different, apparently.

Fixed...

Stupidity and arrogance knows no color...

Somehow, I don't think that is the proper way to remove a student. Going ass over tea-kettle in a desk.
She could have had her neck broken.

If the parent of a child removed them in that matter, they would be arrested for child abuse and reckless endangerment.
They would temporarily lose custody of all children.

And a student should never be arrested for any of that shit.

Again though...fuck with the bull...

This is like morons that will walk right out in front of a moving car in these "pedestrian right of way" zones...that fucking sign isn't going to help you out if you get smacked by 4000lbs of metal moving at 40mph...right/wrong go right out the window.

As for the "parent" comment...that is apples/oranges.

A police officer executing the law is completely different than anyone else doing it. If I did that to anyone, or even did much of what officers forcibly do, I'd go to jail for assault. They, on the other hand, are well within the limits of the law to use force. Now, how much force is needed...that's different.

Once you push someone to the breaking point, "right" and "wrong" disappear for that split second. She may get her day in court, she may get paid...but for that second, that cop was going to do whatever the fuck he wanted.

 

[Opethian]

thug life

 

[TonK]

Somehow, I don't think that is the proper way to remove a student. Going ass over tea-kettle in a desk.
She could have had her neck broken.

If the parent of a child removed them in that matter, they would be arrested for child abuse and reckless endangerment.
They would temporarily lose custody of all children.

And a student should never be arrested for any of that shit.

How else was he supposed to move her? Ask for her hand?

 

[norton9478]

If the comment said what I think it said... I forgive GG for not having much experience around white people.

 

[smokehouse]

How else was he supposed to move her? Ask for her hand?

Yeah...this is my point. Something had to be done and she was no tiny gal. Sitting in a desk of that nature, refusing to move, weighing a good 125+ lbs...what else was he supposed to do? Especially when pissed off...

 

[DNSDies]

Try as I might, I cannot think of a way to extricate someone from a desk who is being arrested except by force.

I mean, it's not like he can taze her. She's not a threat enough yet to warrant that escalation, and you can't let her go once you say she's under arrest. That's dereliction of duty.

How else do you remove someone from a desk that doesn't want to move?

 

[Atro]

This world is fucked up.
Bring the poles and whips back.

 

[smokehouse]

Try as I might, I cannot think of a way to extricate someone from a desk who is being arrested except by force.

I mean, it's not like he can taze her. She's not a threat enough yet to warrant that escalation, and you can't let her go once you say she's under arrest. That's dereliction of duty.

How else do you remove someone from a desk that doesn't want to move?

Exactly.

I'm not sure either, to be honest.

I don't know what in the hell I'd do, clear the room and shoot her in the face with pepper spray? I bet she'd be A-ok with getting her ass up after that...

 

[TonK]

Exactly.

I'm not sure either, to be honest.

I don't know what in the hell I'd do, clear the room and shoot her in the face with pepper spray? I bet she'd be A-ok with getting her ass up after that...

That idiot "lawyer" on CNN said the cop could squat 900lbs. You know, cause it matters.

 

[norton9478]

How else was he supposed to move her? Ask for her hand?

Yeah...this is my point. Something had to be done and she was no tiny gal. Sitting in a desk of that nature, refusing to move, weighing a good 125+ lbs...what else was he supposed to do? Especially when pissed off...

If she was "no tiny gal" (OMG 125lbs), then how did he sling her across the room like a lawn dart?

Anyways, there are effective tactics to de-escalate the situation, and remove a person with the necessary use of force.

Use a distraction to get an arm. I don't know if you guys have ever been arrested, but the cops are very quick with those cuffs.

Or better yet, how about deescalating the situation:
1. Grab the desk and remove the student from the social situation. Allow her to back down outside of the peer pressure.
2. Wait her out. The staff gets paid by the hour right? Give her time to think about her course of action.
Something did not "have to be done".

 

[norton9478]

And they arrested a second student for expressing her displeasure with the whole thing.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/loca...rrested-spring-valley-hs-speaks-out/74665360/

 

[StevenK]

Nah, bitch had it coming, everyone has to learn at some point that in the grand scheme of things they're a nothing.

 

[smokehouse]

If she was "no tiny gal" (OMG 125lbs), then how did he sling her across the room like a lawn dart?

Anyways, there are effective tactics to de-escalate the situation, and remove a person with the necessary use of force.

Use a distraction to get an arm. I don't know if you guys have ever been arrested, but the cops are very quick with those cuffs.

Or better yet, how about deescalating the situation:
1. Grab the desk and remove the student from the social situation. Allow her to back down outside of the peer pressure.
2. Wait her out. The staff gets paid by the hour right? Give her time to think about her course of action.
Something did not "have to be done".

Listen...we all you know you are the NG.com bleeding heart humanitarian...but perhaps you should use your noodle a bit.

My daughter weighs 75 lbs...dead human weight is not easy to move around. 125lbs of dead human weight is even worse...

It's not his job to "wait her out"...

You need a few spoonfuls of reality...where I won't support his chucking her around like a bag of fuck, he's not going to just stand there and let her break the law. If she doesn't get up, he's going to make her get up, this is how it works.

How do you even have time to post, anyway? Shouldn't you be somewhere shoving daisies in gun barrels or something?

And they arrested a second student for expressing her displeasure with the whole thing.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/loca...rrested-spring-valley-hs-speaks-out/74665360/

"I was crying, screaming and crying like a baby," says Kenny. "I was in disbelief."

Oh yeah...I bet she was a real voice of reason...you know, Cool Hand Luke and all. "expressing her displeasure"...LOL, that's one way of putting it.

 

[norton9478]

You guys are a bunch of authoritarian masochists.

 

[norton9478]

Use my noodle?
I've seen these situations go down. Long before we had "School Resource Officers". I've seen this handled without an arrest or throwing a student over backwards.

It has been done since the age of public enducation.

It's not his job to "wait her out"...

It is his job.
He is a fucking rent-a-cop.