Price Guide sub-categories

[RocketLawnChair]

What do you guys think of having sub-categories for the Price Guide section? I know the market fluctuates a lot, but I thought I'd throw the idea up there anyway. Granted, as people have said before: You should already know what your stuff's worth, and I agree with this.

Some examples (with rough condition scales):

In the MVS section:
Possibly a sub-category for complete kits of various regions, Mini Marquees / Art, maybe even boards of specific models. Before anyone says anything, I know that a sub-category for MMs / Art could potentially impact the "value" of a complete kit, so keep that in mind.

In the AES section:
A sub-category for loose, or boxed hardware (systems, sticks etc.)

In the NGCD section:
Pretty much the same as the AES section, a sub-category for loose, or boxed hardware.

In the NGPC section:
Again, pretty much the same deal as AES / NGCD, a category for loose, or boxed hardware. (black and white systems, color, slimline etc.)

 

[themisterfalcon]

sounds like a good question for the big, bad cd priceguide analysist.

 

[SNKJorge]

There's not a huge market for loose homecarts nor for NGCD's. So no need to do
a separate guide for that IMO. For boxed hardware, if you scroll down all the
way on the CD price guide I added some harware prices as well long ago.

sounds like a good question for the big, bad cd priceguide analysist.

Who the fuck are you again?

 

[GunstarHero]

Who the fuck are you again?

Monkey see, monkey do tooshort. n00b sees another member talk trash, so to fit in.....ah well you see.

 

[RocketLawnChair]

There's not a huge market for loose homecarts nor for NGCD's. So no need to do
a separate guide for that IMO. For boxed hardware, if you scroll down all the
way on the CD price guide I added some harware prices as well long ago.

Yeah, I only meant loose or boxed systems / sticks, not games. Didn't see the hardware section before, since I never really check out the CD guide. That was sort of a minor suggestion, however.

Mainly, I wanted to suggest a guide for complete MVS kits, and possibly loose mini marquees, or artwork.

 

[themisterfalcon]

Monkey see, monkey do tooshort. n00b sees another member talk trash, so to fit in.....ah well you see.

Ahem. Kind of like "old tymers" ganging up on new members?

Besides, maybe Jonny really did think his title was big and bad.

 

[Neo Alec]

In the MVS section:
Possibly a sub-category for complete kits of various regions, Mini Marquees / Art, maybe even boards of specific models. Before anyone says anything, I know that a sub-category for MMs / Art could potentially impact the "value" of a complete kit, so keep that in mind.

As always, I'll say this may be a good idea, but the question is, who's going to do it? When I took over the price guide, my main prerogative was just to make sure it finally gets updated, and as far as I know, no one else was about to do it. When I took it over it was so far off it was in desperate need, but now that I've updated it, I don't intend to do much tinkering in the near future. Bringing it up to date is really all I'll do, and am content to do. I've also finished collecting all the MVS carts now, so it will be unlikely that I will be as familiar with the market anymore in years to come. It just happened to be good timing because I was very active buying in the market when I took it over.

As for a MVS hardware price guide, it's a really interesting idea, and I think I'll do some research.

As for complete kits, I think the market is way too small to even establish a price for most games. Any price guide would really just be an educated guess, and the buying price you personally might be willing to accept would really still be left up to you, and would likely vary widely from the guide price. I think that the existing loose carts guide can still be applied if you're smart and follow one simple rule: Uncommon games are generally harder to get as complete kits. Therefore, the premium paid for a complete kit would jump exponentially, depending on the rarity of the game in general. Anyone in the market for these would get a feeling for the market prices on their own, and would know better than a guide.

Newer games like SNK-Playmore releases are generally easier to get as complete kits because they were released after collectors had widely realized their value. There are also a few old games like Samurai 1 and Fatal Fury that have come back as new kits on ebay recently thanks to yaton.

In general though, I don't think there's anyone with authority to say more than that, and therefore would render any priceguide mostly meaningless. Besides, the type of collectors who seek out complete kits are already a rare enough breed, and already know a kit's value without being told. Making a guide would be more an invitation for arguments than useful. But again, if anyone wants to give it a shot, I'm fine with the idea.

 

[RocketLawnChair]

Neo Alec:

I have to say, I was actually thinking about everything you mentioned as I wrote my suggestions. Personally, I don't use the guides, since I'm more than comfortable with the market.

As you've mentioned, the market for kits is generally small. Most anyone willing to locate, and pay for complete kits, would know what to pay. Again, I realized this when I made my suggestion. Like you said, an MVS kit guide would require a lot of attention (for a relatively small market), and it's probably not necessary since there's a loose cart guide. Just figured I'd throw the idea up there for future consideration.

With that said,

I still like the idea of an MVS hardware guide, since it might help some people out. Luckily there aren't nearly as many boards as carts, so it could be (somewhat) low maintenance.

Of course, there is a slight down side to an MVS hardware guide... As you know, there are six one slot boards. Some of which don't have much of an advantage over one another (except maybe the MV-1C, and possibly the MV-1F), so people looking to just "grab anything" for a cab may inadvertently affect the price guide. Guess the same could be said about anything however, so take that as you will.

Finally, Mini Marquees:

I know a mini marquee guide would be extremely difficult, but many people have loose carts, and look for mini marquees by themselves. It's important to remember that not all kits were purchased by collectors. Many arcade ops would simply keep the mini marquee, and cart, then discard the rest. Since this was fairly common, loose cart / mini marquee combinations aren't unheard of, and to a lesser extent, loose mini marquees.

Anyway, I know a mini marquee guide would be a pain in the ass, but it's just a small suggestion for future consideration. Market might be relatively small, so it probably doesn't even need a guide.

 

[evil wasabi]

no need for a guide. These things are floating around ebay regularly enough that people know what the market price is better than a guide can tell them. Price guides are protect people buying or selling games that the price might not be known for, like a English Metal Slug 2, or a ShinOhKen. Off the top of my head, I can't tell you what a fair price is for that stuff. But if you want me to tell you what a boxed neo geo goes for, I'd say $175, unless it's brand spanking new, which we don't see a lot of, and knowing the way people can't even judge their own products, it would only hurt the market.

So in short,

no.

 

[Neo Alec]

Yeah, I think finding the prices for the boards and the memory card reader would be interesting. I don't know anything about the marquees though. I don't know who is even in the market for those.

 

[Ruell]

if there's a hardware section. people would use it it to base prices on cabs. a cab with this plus this is equal to this minus this. i just say to hell with it. people are smart enough to make their own decisions. whatever it's worth it to them