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kernow

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Probably good because they just outsourced their whole TV manufacturing
 

kernow

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Dat pamny though
I thought they were impossible to get in merica
 

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Dat pamny though
I thought they were impossible to get in merica
This particular model has been on Amazon since last year. The other ones seem to be out of stock usually.
 

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I've been kicking around getting a 4K player, to ease up off the PS5 (you know, now that the damn things are $650 for a disc model).

Sifting through the rubble of what's left of players (Sony, Panasonic, Magnetar), there's really not much to go over.

Sony players seem to be highly problematic, prone to skipping/freezing on many 4K discs, and require toy to manually tell the player what kind of output you want (HDR, vs Dolby Vision). Magentar...well, I'm not looking to drop pushing $2K on a UDP800. So...that left me with Panasonic, specifically the UB420, the 450, or the 820.

I was fairly dead set on the 820...although getting them can be spotty. The $550 price was also slightly off putting, given that there's plenty of reviews out there concerning the players being slightly fragile, and prone to eventually having massive function problems.

That got me looking at either the 420 ($299), or the 450 ($200). The prices seem to vary, depending on where you look. The info on these two players aren't very clear, but here's what I found:

420- Better 1080 BR upscaling, HDR, HDR10+
450- Not as good at upscaling, HDR, Dolby Vision

Given my LG OLED has DV, and not HDR10+, I ran with the 450 (got it from Wal Mart, of all places, and saved $100 over the 420). I got it home, hooked it up, and ran it through its paces. Its a criminally cheap piece of gear...but that was to be expected. I'll say that with 1080 BRs, it seems my PS5 does a better job of upscaling. There's an ton of reasons why that could be, given the ocean of different settings that all of the unique devices have. With the limited time that I had, that was the outcome.

4K discs do look better on the Panasonic vs the PS5. I watched The Matrix in DV, and ran a BD100 disc (Blade Runner 2049). Both played flawlessly, looked amazing, and had no issues. The Matrix was exceptionally impressive.

I guess for now, I'll just run the PS5 for 1080 BRs, until I have more time to screw with the setting on the Panasonic. Either way, given the super cheap price, I think the performance is solid. We'll see how long the player lasts.
 

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Bravia 7 II and Bravia 9 II, the last of the line as far as stand-alone Japanese OEM TV manufacturers.

We’ve come full circle with these sets-RGB led panels; each single LED has a R, a G, or a B. CRT approach on a flat panel.

Who’s got ~70Gs for the 115”?
 

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Bravia 7 II and Bravia 9 II, the last of the line as far as stand-alone Japanese OEM TV manufacturers.

We’ve come full circle with these sets-RGB led panels; each single LED has a R, a G, or a B. CRT approach on a flat panel.

Who’s got ~70Gs for the 115”?
The A95K, A95L and Bravia 8 II are better than the Bravia 9 II and Bravia 7 II, IMO. Better blacks, & no pixel blooming.
 

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Was pretty impressed with these... it came out the year after after we grabbed our 77" A95L in '24 (which we adore) --> replaced an A9G which was decent in the dark / not-so-hot with ambient light. Panny was under consideration when we swapped out the kid's game room TV last month but ended up with the new 77" S95H which surprisingly does just about everything well from a qd-oled perspective (gaming, bright glarey room light handling, sportsball, etc. etc.). Has a weird bezel frame which is an aesthetic I'm not wild about but the kids don't care.

Some day, Panny... some day.
 
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The A95K, A95L and Bravia 8 II are better than the Bravia 9 II and Bravia 7 II, IMO. Better blacks, & no pixel blooming.
Word? My local hi-fi shop got both in, and I’m going to demo both. Admittedly, with two kids in braces, and finna go off to Uni…I’ve got no business entertaining the biggest 9.

I might walk out with the 65” 7, tho. We’ll see.
 

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I think I'm getting my dad a Samsung S90H, since his 1080p Bravia finally died after 18 years of service. I wanted to get him an LG C8 or another Bravia, but the TV room gets a ton of natural light, and both of those (especially the Bravia) are super reflective. The anti-glare coating on the S90H is supposedly very effective. My only concern is that I hear direct sunlight can fuck up an OLED panel. But I can't find anything non-OLED that has good anti-glare and will fit the space (has to be 55" or under).
 

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If he's been fine with a 1080p for the last 18yrs just get him a 4k lcd, or the oled I mean it's £1100 over here
 

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The anti-glare coating on the S90H is supposedly very effective.

If it has the same anti-reflective shit the S95H has, it's very effective. I mentioned it in a prior post, but we've had the 95 in our kid's game room (a ton of ambient light from a wall that's all windows) for going on a month now. And although I've never been a Samsung panel fan, it's better than expected... especially relating to it's anti-reflective matte finish screen.

If you or your dad do prefer OLED, the balancing act of performing well in a super dark room and/or a super bright glare-filled room during the day is tricky, but the Samsung does it better than most for that kind of varied environment, at least for OLED that is.

FWIW, we used to have an older Sony A9G OLED in that room, and temporarily tested one of our A95L panels in there too. We still ultimately preferred the Samsung, regardless of how much it sucks admitting that. :keke:
 
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