Nintendo to Debut a New Console at E3

[TonK]

http://kotaku.com/5792165/

Anyone know anything else?

I have a feeling the Nintendo of old will be making a comeback.

Multiple Sources Confirm New Nintendo HD Console
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by Matthew Kato on April 14, 2011 at 01:50 PM 9,279 Views
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Gamers have been waiting years for Nintendo to finally release its Wii successor, and Game Informer has heard from multiple sources that the company will unveil it at E3 this summer if not sooner.

We have confirmed with multiple sources that this new home system is capable of running games at HD resolutions. There are conflicting reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive specifications. Moving to HD should greatly help Nintendo and its new console in getting more multi-platform triple-A titles like Portal 2 or Mortal Kombat. This, in turn, will strengthen Nintendo's historically poor relationship with third-party publishers/developers.

In fact, Nintendo is already showing publishers the system in an effort to get them interested and allow them plenty of time to start developing titles in anticipation of the system's reported late 2012 launch. This advance support marks a change from when the Wii launched. At that time, several Western publishers were outright surprised by the announcement, and it affected the software support for the platform.

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata himself acknowledged that it needs to do a better job with its publishing partners at a 3DS press conference in the fall of 2010. "We need to decrease the concern that only Nintendo software can sell well on Nintendo platforms and third-party software cannot sell in the same volume. We feel a need to have closer ties with our third-party developers from the beginning."

"Nintendo is doing this one right," said an anonymous source. "[It's] not a gimmick like the Wii." What else, beyond graphics, this may imply about the system is unknown. What kind of controls the system will support (we imagine a need for both classic analog configurations and motion controllers) or what level of software and infrastructure Nintendo will provide for online gaming is also unknown. However, it's a positive sign that the system might be more than just an HD Wii.

We've heard about an HD Wii for some time now, and the time is perfect – almost necessary – for Nintendo to jump start itself with this new system. The company has been feeling the bite since Wii sales have declined from previous years, and this week's news that Nintendo could be dropping the price of the Wii on May 15 could be a precursor to this announcement and an attempt to move as many Wii units as possible out of the retail channel before the new system hits.

We do not have confirmation if this new system will be backward compatible with the Wii or if it will even carry the Wii branding as has often been rumored. It is our understanding that Nintendo is trying to embrace the western gamer and will likely launch a new brand with this console. Around the office we have dubbed the system Nintendo HD. However, this information at this point is conjecture.

We contacted a Nintendo representative regarding this information, and while they wouldn't comment on it or the company's E3 plans, they did sign off with a intriguing "stay tuned."

Either way, it should be an exciting E3 for Nintendo and gamers alike.

Filed under: news, wii, nintendo, new console, wii 2, wii successor

 

[SonGohan]

I doubt it. Nintendo has shit on third party developers even when they were "Nintendo of old."

 

[Chunky Lover 53]

Please let there be BC. HODOK looks to fuzzy.

 

[NeoSneth]

I'd give up BC for a regular ass controller.

i was just talking about this the other day. Are the big 3 ready to launch new consoles yet and can they afford it?

Sony is struggling to make ends meet. Floundering handheld market
M$ - do they still want to dump money into this market. I heard they have phones...
Nintendo - anything they slap a box around sells.

 

[SPINMASTER X]

I have a feeling the Nintendo of old will be making a comeback.

What from the N64 days lol? As much as I wanted this to happen it won't. I think I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that there is no hope.

THE DREAM HAS ENDED

 

[Dr Shroom]

Dreams don't die!

 

[Chunky Lover 53]

Nintendo will rule again. Super Wii for the win.

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Ooooh a new machine, still love the launch of new machines after all these years

 

[Dio Brando]

Nintendo will rule again. Super Wii for the win.

This would make me giggle like a schoolgirl. They do seem to be making some wise decisions, and both Sony and Microsoft have stated they have no intention of launching new consoles in the next few years. I am curious to see what Nintendo decides in regards to controls, as well as backward compatibility.

C'mon, Nintendo, make be proud, dudes!

 

[jamie666]

Its going to be very interesting to see what they put out. I do indeed still play my wii but of course it falls short of the specs compared to the 360/ps3. Its going to be interesting to see the new machine and what Nintendo has in store.

 

[Loopz]

I think they should call it the UltraNES, if not the SuperWii.
Pack in a bitchin' Mario game.
Finally come up with their own subscription online gaming service, NintendoNet.



Just dreaming aloud.

 

[norton9478]

Nintendo should always treat 3rd party developers like a third wheel.

Nintendo is first and foremost a developer. They are the biggest (and arguably best) developer out there.

They design the hardware so that it can support their vision for the software.

That's why 1st part titles so often come out great. And third party titles (especially platformed ones) feel so stale.

 

[acem77]

The original xbox had more balls than the Wii, it had some 720p games and dolby digital plus a hard drive.
I think Wii was the only system that launched being weaker than a last gen system.
Nintendo Poo(Wii number2) may start to push 720p but a few game will still run in 480i.

I hope the shovel ware phase will be put to death I don’t need cheap cash ins and main stream killing my fav hobby.
Sounds like the same reason for the video game crash in the 80s.
The only difference Nintendo has very good 1st party games. As always the only real reason to get Nintendo system.


If Nintendo mixes the best of all the motion controls it could be cool,
A kinect like device sampling at 60-120fps with an improved wii/move controller.
I still think some games will always need something you hold just for the feel or to have more precise controls.


Now they say it won't have 3d that seems weak from the start. 3d should be an option for any true next gen system.
Sorry people it's here to stay just like HD tv caught on.
Most people with 2 good eyes love the effect when done right. Most headaches are from poor design on the hardware and media side.

I bought the 3ds but it has one fail you move a lot while playing a portable. This kills the effect a lot or even screws up game play. Try play pilot wings resort while seeing double.....

Gaming on a 3d tv with fixed glass is much better, yes you have to wear something but it's not bad especially if it’s a passive 3d
Tv like LG or Vizio. Those glasses are so light. You can move your head all around with no issues.
Hell they could probably make polarized contact lenses.

 

[Zenimus]

So, let's look at this with a historical parallel. The GameCube was more or less a straight up gaming machine with no gimmicks. It was more powerful than the PS2 (I think, right?). But most people, including me probably, seem to consider the GameCube as a "failed" or floundered console.

Why wasn't it nearly as successful?

A "very powerful HD" console is exactly what I want from Nintendo, but they've tried that path in the past, which led to the kinda lackluster "casual" Wii.

 

[Hot Chocolate]

Nintendo should always treat 3rd party developers like a third wheel.

Nintendo is first and foremost a developer. They are the biggest (and arguably best) developer out there.

They design the hardware so that it can support their vision for the software.

That's why 1st part titles so often come out great. And third party titles (especially platformed ones) feel so stale.

And that's why so few of their games sell if it's not Zelda/Mario, your system is only as good as the games on it and if you ignore 3rd parties you end up being the only one keeping your system afloat then it's right back to the N64/Gamecube days

 

[OrochiEddie]

So, let's look at this with a historical parallel. The GameCube was more or less a straight up gaming machine with no gimmicks. It was more powerful than the PS2 (I think, right?). But most people, including me probably, seem to consider the GameCube as a "failed" or floundered console.

Why wasn't it nearly as successful?

A "very powerful HD" console is exactly what I want from Nintendo, but they've tried that path in the past, which led to the kinda lackluster "casual" Wii.

The small discs played a big part in that. There wasn't enough memory for the games. Because of this it didn't matter if the ps2 was less powerful its games had more data

 

[Zero Satori]

There are conflicting reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive specifications.

So uh, let me get this straight: Nintendo is making a new system so that they can compete with systems that are already on the market? That sounds a little bit too much like the --SEGA-- of old, where they would be the first company to release a "next generation" system, thereby having a leg-up on the previous generation, but ultimately having outdated and outmoded hardware as soon as other companies released their new systems.

I mean, it's been pretty clear for a while now that Nintendo isn't exactly interested in producing home gaming systems which take advantage of the best hardware available in the computer-electronics industry, and that they care more about making solid game titles. THAT'S GOOD but ultimately it's not gonna attract the third-party developers and gamers who want to produce/play the most-advanced games possible, so with this presentation, Nintendo can say all they want, but if anyone's really believing it means much... well, that's your problem.

 

[IsamuBlue]

Well, this explains the drought in quality Wii games and the rumored $150 price tag for the original Wii in May.

 

[SouthtownKid]

So uh, let me get this straight: Nintendo is making a new system so that they can compete with systems that are already on the market? That sounds a little bit too much like the --SEGA-- of old, where they would be the first company to release a "next generation" system, thereby having a leg-up on the previous generation, but ultimately having outdated and outmoded hardware as soon as other companies released their new systems.

BING-- I agree with this.

So, let's look at this with a historical parallel. The GameCube was more or less a straight up gaming machine with no gimmicks. It was more powerful than the PS2 (I think, right?). But most people, including me probably, seem to consider the GameCube as a "failed" or floundered console.

Why wasn't it nearly as successful?

Other than what OrochiEddie brought up, another part of it is the negative momentum continued over from N64. Like all the ill-will the Saturn inherited from the SegaCD/32X debacle, and Dreamcast inherited from Saturn. The opposite also happens. For example, N64 sold way better than it ever deserved to, based in large part on people's positive image of Nintedo, thanks to NES and SNES. But now? Nintendo has a lot to overcome. Any new console they try to release brings with it a lot of negative baggage from their last few consoles. While there will probably always be fanboys ready to buy anything with a Nintendo name stamped on it, there are also a lot of people disinclined to even give Nintendo a fair chance anymore.

 

[norton9478]

3D is gay. nobody wants to sit on a couch wearing glasses, popping bubbles out of the air like some sort of fucked-up ray charles

 

[Jedah Doma]

The real question is will it have good games. That's all I care about.

 

[elixir]

The Wii was a disappointment. I barely ever bother, and when I do, it's VC games, so technically not even Wii games themselves. I bought MH3 and that's it.

Still need to pick up Xenoblade sometime though.

 

[Moon Jump]

I kinda figured this was going to be happing. So Skyward Sword is going to be the Wii's swan song then it's on to the SupaWii or WiiHD.

I could give a shit how powerful the hardware is, it's all about the games. Thankfully Nintendo has always made some of the best ones. After all, you buy a Nintendo system to play Nintendo games. I doubt their going to take over the 3rd party slot filled by Microsoft, but I'd like to see them get more 3rd parties involved. Get back to the old days when all the 3rd parties were putting out games that could put Nintendo's to shame.

I doubt their going to ween themselves off the gimmicks. Other then being in HD, it's going to end up having 3D modes in most of the games and might use some motion controls. I'd be really shocked to see them go back to using a more traditional type of controller, but I hope they have the option like many of the Wii games. They also need to step up the online. Everybody else is passing them in the dust, they need a good system in place and some good games to go along with it. Where the hell is my Pokemon MMO? And how about more traditional arcade style games for the download service? After King of Kong people are going nuts for classic arcade games, I would love to see Nintendo make some more games like they used to in the 80's, hard games but they kept you coming back for more. Why they haven't followed Namco in making a Donkey Kong Championship Edition game is beyond me. Hopefully they will pull their heads out of their asses and go back to their gaming roots and take chances on new franchises.

 

[terry.330]

3D is gay. nobody wants to sit on a couch wearing glasses, popping bubbles out of the air like some sort of fucked-up ray charles

Hahahaha... awesome and true.

Also Nintendo's thing has always been if you want to play our games you buy our hardware, if you want to play more than gimped one offs from other developers (unless it's a handheld release) get a better console. I don't see that changing anytime soon. The NES and SNES just happened to do well enough that a really good number of 3rd party games that weren't total shit came along.

The N64 shit all over itself outside of Nintendo releases. With the Cube N said they were going to support more mature 3rd party games but even though there were a handful of good releases it was too little too late everyone had already moved on.

Like was said before Nintendo develop their hardware for their games.

 

[BigFred]

I'd give up BC for a regular ass controller.

The controller was the first thing that popped into my mind. They haven't really given us anything decent since the SNES. Long line up of shit-house controllers....

I still remember chasing my bro around the house with my wii-mote cover like that scene out of Borat.

Meh, if they make enough good exclusive games, it'll sell anyway.