NGF on trial, Phase I

Shawn

, Grandmaster Elf , Overlord (GEO), , snkusa.com
For those of you who are aware of the current fiasco between NGF and myself, you know that I am now at a crossroads. For the first time in my neo experience, I have something of theirs for a change. The roles are reversed. Should I do unto them as they did unto me? Personally, I feel that they deserve far worse than what I’m willing to do. My recommendation for business rehabilitation is to suspend their shipment/refund for a certain length of time.

The outcome of this transaction is dependent upon the verdict provided by the members of this forum. The members are now given the honorable position of jurors, and NGF is the defendant to be prosecuted.

The list of charges against NGF is incredibly long and can be found through out these forums.

Use the two sources below for reference concerning the current state of affairs.
http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000251.html http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000253.html

Phase I - Are they guilty? If guilty proceed to phase II
Phase II - How long is the sentence?

Phase I is now in session.
 

benares

Kula's Candy
I've never done business with NGF so I have no right to a vote. All I have to say is that you are a person of goodness Shawn and I would hate to see you stoop to their level. And by your actions they might take out their frustrations on other forum members here by holding their carts or holding their money because of this.

It's a vicious cycle...
 

Viewpoint

Art of Typing Wiz, , ,
Shawn,
It's really hard to think about this overall issue but I feel that in this retrospect you should do this with Chris seeing as 2 weeks is too long of a wait compared to the 4 months he made you wait.

1. Send his money back and let him choke on it.

2. Get all these collectibles items for yoursel and either keep them or sell them to forum members who might want them and enjoy them better than Chris would who's only concern is about money and his 2 week wait.

3. I would also agree on the fact the NGF is these forums only on the words of annoyance and overall slandering lies and abuse with which almost every user has seen time and again. I would say that they would leave on their own but the DHP list already proved that futile.

There isn't much else to say on this but if Chris wants to be such an arse about this, give him back his money and be done with it. I'm sure you'll feel better once this is done this way.

BonusKun
 

BryLmoo

AES Contact Cleaner, Extraordinaire!!!,
ok, first off NGF is Guilty on all charges stated. They have ripped many people and deserve the worst punishment. I say you give em' a week to form their own Forum at their OWN site. After the week is up BAN NGF FROM THIS FORUM FOR GOOD.

Just my 2 sence... Bryan
 

The Black Knight

Cheng's Errand Boy
Here's what you do:

Get some monopoly money, or just print out some fake money. Paste Dion's face on one side, and Chris's on the other (suitably mutilated). Now sign fake Dion signatures all over the bills in magic marker, and give them a few grease stains

Then tell Chris his "refund" is on its way, immediately. Just don't tell him it's $200 "Dion Dollars", in 1 DD increments.

Heh, but seriously...I'd refund the real money. Don't send them the goods...they don't need official Neo-Geo items, because they are obviously quite skilled at making their own (heh). Sort of like a little pack of McGuyver monkeys with soldering irons way too big for their little grimy paws.

"Kii kiiii kiiii...I blob the solder over my signature it bad! Signature everyone must see kii kiiiii!"
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Let's face it, Mr. Shawn, you're far, far above them on many levels...odiferous Greek thieves don't really rank high on the food chain, for instance. Give them their money back rather quickly, with a note saying there will be no future dealings with NGF and their affiliates due to their poor reputation and slanderous nature. I'd throw them in the Black Book for good measure too...I think they've made enough sour dealings to warrant it.

Just don't sink to their level. The mud they wallow in is pretty nasty.
 

BryLmoo

AES Contact Cleaner, Extraordinaire!!!,
NGF should burn in hell...give em' the DEATH PENALTY!!!

Bryan -FUCK EM', THEIR ALL GONNA ROT IN HELL-
 

wjw123

Krauser's Henchman
Shawn,

Let divide the $200 - oooops not enough to go around.

Oh, wait a minute maybe my deal was only with Chris? Then again the auction had NEO GEO FREAKS on it. MVS MV-1B that does not work will all mvs games.

Guilty as charged.

As far as the money goes, I would not stoop to their scum of the earth level. That will be entirely up to you. he he he
 

BryLmoo

AES Contact Cleaner, Extraordinaire!!!,
But seriously NGF....why tha fuck don't you already have your own Forum? you could call it the "NGForum"...how imaginative I am tonight...
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NGFuCks will all rot in hell...
 

chrisr

Known Scammer and One Deluded Individual, NeoGeoFr
This is a mail i sent WJW on sept 26 of this year AFTER never hearing about his supposed problems. WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? This is very typical of the things that are said but never clarified. I never heard from him - EVER, after this email. Since he never responded what am I supposed to do? Oh well. I figured he must have finally hooked it up right. ChrisR


William,

I see your post on neo-geo.com forums. I never hear back from you about the
board. I thought you had fixed the problem. I have never had any problem
with the board at all on my super nova. If you are unhappy you should just
tell me. I see you are looking for a board with joystick ports. I have an
extra large 1-slot board I would be happy to switch out for you if you are
unhappy with the board you have. I would not try to "sucker" you, I want my
customers to be happy.

Send back the 1-slot and I will send you the large sized one with joystick
ports in return for free. It does not come with original
box or manual, but it works perfect.

Sorry you were unhappy, I want to help you.

Thanks,

Chris
 

wjw123

Krauser's Henchman
Originally posted by chrisr:
This is a mail i sent WJW on sept 26 of this year AFTER never hearing about his supposed problems. WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? This is very typical of the things that are said but never clarified. I never heard from him - EVER, after this email. Since he never responded what am I supposed to do? Oh well. I figured he must have finally hooked it up right. ChrisR


William,

I see your post on neo-geo.com forums. I never hear back from you about the
board. I thought you had fixed the problem. I have never had any problem
with the board at all on my super nova. If you are unhappy you should just
tell me. I see you are looking for a board with joystick ports. I have an
extra large 1-slot board I would be happy to switch out for you if you are
unhappy with the board you have. I would not try to "sucker" you, I want my
customers to be happy.

Send back the 1-slot and I will send you the large sized one with joystick
ports in return for free. It does not come with original
box or manual, but it works perfect.

Sorry you were unhappy, I want to help you.

Thanks,

Chris

Chris,

Show me proof of this email - I never got this. How can a MV-1B be hooked up right?
You know and I did not at the time; this board is only for the Irritating Maze game.

So are you willing to fix this now. How about
Mike the other MV-1B "sucker"?

William

PS - do not attempt to turn this thread a different direction, sorry Shawn


[This message has been edited by wjw123 (edited November 28, 2000).]
 

Mike

Giga Shock!!
Chris-

What about my Neo Board that your fucked up partner screwed me on?

As far as I am concerned you should get your money back becuase I have never done any business with you.

But fuck Dion.

I emailed you for help Chris, you never replied.

In case you havn't noticed, your partner Dion is making YOU look bad.

Shawn, give the cash back, but DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN.

The first ten times is their fault, the ones after that are on your head Shawn, and you'll get what is coming to you for dealing with them:

A BUNCH OF SHIT.

[This message has been edited by Mike (edited November 28, 2000).]
 

Mike

Giga Shock!!
William-

Sad to hear that you were the other guy to get screwed in this MV1-B deal.

I sent my board to Jeff, the moderator in the Tech support section.

He is supposed to have it back to me by the end of the month so that I can run it on my super-gun.

I'll post someplace for you to see how good of a job he did.

DO NOT SEND YOUR BOARD BACK TO NGF!

Friendly advice.
 

chrisr

Known Scammer and One Deluded Individual, NeoGeoFr
Mike,

What email are you using? I have yet to get a single mail from you.

ChrisR
 

wjw123

Krauser's Henchman
Originally posted by Mike:
William-

Sad to hear that you were the other guy to get screwed in this MV1-B deal.

I sent my board to Jeff, the moderator in the Tech support section.

He is supposed to have it back to me by the end of the month so that I can run it on my super-gun.

I'll post someplace for you to see how good of a job he did.

DO NOT SEND YOUR BOARD BACK TO NGF!

Friendly advice.

Thanks Mike, I am not about to do any business or any sort with NGF ever again.
 

chrisr

Known Scammer and One Deluded Individual, NeoGeoFr
i forwarded the email. I would hope you would have the decency to reply and say I am speaking the truth(as usual).

ChrisR
 

chimpmeister

Former Moderator
OK well your phase I is are they guilty and of course the answer is yes. I know your phase II is what is the punishment, but with reference to Chris' money, here's what I say:

I agree with others here it would be wrong to outright keep their money. For Chris, it would be VERY abusive to just kick BACK his money without his collectables. I've watched the stuff Chris bids on at eBay, and I'm AMAZED that he's basically looking for EVERY IMAGINABLE COLLECTABLE NEO GEO ITEM OUT THERE. It makes me sad, that someone SO INTO the Neo, can act this way. Chris, its too bad that things have come to this cause you guys could have done and been SO MUCH MORE!!! That's something I never understood, how two guys SO INTO the Neo, can end up FUCKING SO MANY FANS over all these years. Very sad.

Anyway, as I said I'd kick back Chris' money, and I WOULD NOT ban them from the forums. Freedom of speech here is a big thing and should be held to the highest level. They should be ALLOWED to communicate here, period.

Now, as to how you send his money back . . . or how long you wait . . . or how you spread it out (like $20 a month for 10 months), thats entirely up to you Shawn.

Oh, and Chris I did see you outbid me on that Mr. Do recently on eBay. No problem, no hard feelings, I don't get all cracked out about that stuff. Hope you enjoy it . . . seriously. I guess you'll convert it to home cart, which is exactly what I was going to do with it. I'll just get one later.
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chrisr

Known Scammer and One Deluded Individual, NeoGeoFr
I dont have a single email from you in my inbox or deleted items. I dont know what to say, i am receiving mail fine.

ChrisR
 

the Rev

Banned
Normally I'd say to send the money back and not to stoop to his level, but HELL NO!!!

I'd keep the money and goods and offer Chris "credit" for the amount he's paid you. NGF is alrady good at screwing people that way. What was the amount, $250? Send him back that much in mothballs. He won't get what he wants but he'll get something at lesser value. Just like NGF does.

One more thought, why not "convert" his money and send it back. A paper shredder makes for a nice convertor nowadays.
 
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gokusama26

Guest
Shawn,

I really think that you are above the pettiness of revenge tactics, just send the crap he ordered and never deal with them again.

PS. Why do you keep dealing with them if you think they are such assholes?
 
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