New DavidG special - Jockey GP

[BBH]

Let me get this straight, as I haven't been keeping up with things here lately.

So far there's been 15 people who have been willing to put $1500 down for a fake conversion of something that barely qualifies as a game, made by someone that swindled people out of a LOT more money by lying about uncovering "pre-production" cartridges?

What the FUCK is wrong with you people?

 

[mr_b]

Yeah that about sums it up.

 

[supergoose]

“The cart uses a custom program board with SRAM making it impossible to convert using normal methods. As stated above, even if you did convert it, you will still be limited by the bios.” and “The game runs off two custom made PCB's.”

In that case it's a straight up bootleg of a terrible game and shady as hell. I would rather buy that Crouching Pony Hidden Dragon game instead.

 

[6tusBeckmesser]

Nah, don't worry. Conversion, bootleg or “production”. Basically it's all just semantics

 

[FTL]

I went back through the thread again and I've got to say I still can't find that part where you've proved your claim there.

However I can say I did find where you came in and quickley blamed the members here for allowing your rep to be runied, rather than man up for your own actions.

I also found the part where you attempted to justify yourself, with the idea that everyone here would have done the same thing for money. Again shifting blame from your self, by asserting that everyone here is of poor character and you actions should be accepted happily.

Later I found the many, many parts where rather than formulate any kind of rational argument or defense you again shifted the blame to other people or just flat out attacked anyone who did not side with you. Once more failing to man up for your own deeds.

I've noticed a few half attempts at saying your sorry, but also with those I've noticed the behaviour that clearly shows your not.

If you actually believed you were at fault and were sorry then why would you not attempt to make every effort to correct things with those who feel they were wronged in part by your actions, even if you were a pawn in this.

I've also never seen a victim of a scam that walked away with a large amount of the money from that scam as his own, free and clear.

Even if you don't have the cash to pay back that 5k all at once, I'm sure it would be okay to do it a little bit at a time.

Good recap here. sentences in bold are the key point to show tonk's true colors.

 

[Fakk2]

conversion is a fancy word for bootleg

No sir, it definitely is not. A conversion is a conversion and a bootleg is a bootleg. They are not one in the same.

I own many conversions that I made myself from authentic aes carts and mvs carts. Not one of them is a bootleg.

 

[evil wasabi]

No sir, it definitely is not. A conversion is a conversion and a bootleg is a bootleg. They are not one in the same.

I own many conversions that I made myself from authentic aes carts and mvs carts. Not one of them is a bootleg.

Conversions are bootlegs. There is no justification for converting a cart from MVS to homecart.

 

[brentsg]

Let me get this straight, as I haven't been keeping up with things here lately.

So far there's been 15 people who have been willing to put $1500 down for a fake conversion of something that barely qualifies as a game, made by someone that swindled people out of a LOT more money by lying about uncovering "pre-production" cartridges?

What the FUCK is wrong with you people?

Rest assured that many of these people will then hermetically seal these bootlegs for posterity, less they become tainted by finger oil, sun fade, and dust. At least they don't have to worry about insertion marks, since it's not really even a game.

 

[Nick Goracke]

I'm curious what issues Mike, Billy, and John have with Chamane's report. The basic points were:

1. Print quality/detail of source images. Do you not observe these problems, do you believe the explanation that these were printed at lower quality than other versions of the game on purpose (pre-production), or do you think the posted images were modified in some way?

2. Artwork on the front of the insert, both where logos existed for the CD version of the game, and extended artwork above and below the cutoff for the CD manual were inconsistent with other officially available prints containing the same imagery. I'm not even sure what to ask here... it seems pretty clearly wrong, but maybe an explanation does exist?

Anyway, just curious what's wrong with the report - it was never explained. Honest questions, not trying to start a rumble...

 

[Fakk2]

Conversions are bootlegs. There is no justification for converting a cart from MVS to homecart.

Believe what you want but conversions are not boots. You might disapprove of AES->MVS Conversions, (or Backward Conversions), but to label them in the same category as boots is incorrect terminology if they use all 100% original roms and SNK boards.

 

[evil wasabi]

Believe what you want but conversions are not boots. You might disapprove of AES->MVS Conversions, (or Backward Conversions), but to label them in the same category as boots is incorrect terminology if they use all 100% original roms and SNK boards.

If that's your final argument, then

hahaha. wow.

 

[elguedro]

Jockey Grand Prix available in September on Ebay spain !

Quelles bande de chèvres !

 

[OrochiEddie]

No sir, it definitely is not. A conversion is a conversion and a bootleg is a bootleg. They are not one in the same.

I own many conversions that I made myself from authentic aes carts and mvs carts. Not one of them is a bootleg.

Seems this is an issue with semantics, but if you have a product that was not originally made by the producer of the content, then it is a bootleg to me. A home cart that was made by you is a bootleg by my definition. If you don't mind having them, then by all means, but I count that as a bootleg item.

 

[Fakk2]

If that's your final argument, then

hahaha. wow.

I'm not arguing, I'm just stating a fact is all. A decade ago you guys knew the difference between a fucking conversion and a bootleg, Now you guys don't?

wow you guys are getting strict on what you consider boots nowadays. lol Okay whatever floats your boats. To me it is different than your view though. I love my conversions. Pochi and Nyaa on AES is my favorite one!

 

[evil wasabi]

I'm not arguing, I'm just stating a fact is all. A decade ago you guys knew the difference between a fucking conversion and a bootleg, Now you guys don't?

Apparently you forgot about bootleg MS carts, made with SNK chips and boards.

 

[Fakk2]

Apparently you forgot about bootleg MS carts, made with SNK chips and boards.

You mean Conversions?

 

[DangerousK]

Good recap here. sentences in bold are the key point to show tonk's true colors.

Been manipulating the price guide lately?

Make sure you're not in a glass house when you're lobbing your stones pal.

 

[DangerousK]

No sir, it definitely is not. A conversion is a conversion and a bootleg is a bootleg. They are not one in the same.

I own many conversions that I made myself from authentic aes carts and mvs carts. Not one of them is a bootleg.

LOL

Dumbass.

 

[Xian Xi]

Fakk2 is correct in neo terminology.

Conversion - AES cart with roms from an MVS release.
Bootleg - AES cart consisting of eproms of an officially released game. Just like anywhere else, a bootleg is a lower quality production of the official item.
Backwards conversion - When an MVS to AES conversion is performed the modder then uses the roms from the AES cart and converts it to MVS format using the MVS boards from the donor cart.

 

[Takumaji]

You mean Conversions?

They are the #1 reason why major parts of the Neo scene went to shits. "Conversions" have been used for scamming people time and again, and it will continue as long as we don't stop making, selling or buying them. They get sold via ebay or other channels every day and not all sellers are honest enough to call them what they are, non-licensed bootlegs, garnished with pretty inserts that let them look cool and official on the shelf.

As a Neo fan, I also pity the tons of perfectly fine original homecarts that have been destroyed ("sacrificed", another blatant euphemism) over the years to create these boots.

Let's stop the madness, that's what I say.

 

[hyper]

this "game" is terrible. I got a brand new JGP mvs kit for $50..

for $1500 I'd at least want full payout hardware, coin hopper (home system compatible), /w manual.

 

[theMot]

For $1500 they better be throwing in a blow job and a night at the Ritz Carlton.

 

[Lee Gray]

I just purchased the last new copy of SNK vs Capcom chaos from the store but am amazed 15 of these JGP game have sold at that price. ...if this game was official and limited to this small number, I could understand but not an unofficial custom job.....hope the buyers enjoy it.

 

[SuperGun]

For $1500 they better be throwing in a blow job and a night at the Ritz Carlton.

Well, an MVS JGP cart @ $50, + a night at the Ritz Carlton @ $450, + an escort service @ $1,000, and yes, your right, $1,500. Same price! Cool!

 

[Bar81]

For $1500 they better be throwing in a blow job and a night at the Ritz Carlton.

I'm not quite sure that a bj from DavidG would positively affect the price.