New Astro City vs. Egret 2

[Electric Grave]

EG did you just say its easier to completely disassemble an NAC to move it/get it through a door than it is to remove a cp from an E2? Let's not forget about the 4 casters on an E2 either. I dont get how moving an NAC is easier in any way, thats bullshit.

I do in fact know what I am doing, working on any cab is easy if you ask me. What I said was an Egret 2 is easier to work on when compared to an NAC. You cant seriously believe its easier to get to stuff on a NAC.

Bullshit?! lol

Let's say the door is real narrow, you're EII won't fit no matter what, an NAC would. Let's say you take the monitor out of the 2 to move them, the NAC is way lighter, way lighter! The EII is just "prettier" and yes is roomier inside but I can get to everything in my NAC just fine so that's just how I see it. Also the NAC is harnessed way better with break away molexes just about everywhere where is needed. You can disassemble the cab without taking the harness out 'cause it has break-aways in all the pivotal points. A disassembled NAC fits in any car, any! You don't even need two people to bring it up a flight of stairs.

I can take apart my NAC and have it in my car down a flight of stairs in less than 25 mins by myself, no help needed whatsoever, can you say the same thing about an EII? No you couldn't, I have moved these cabs enough and in the most unlikely ways. I can run circles around most people moving cabs, I'm good with shit like that and the NAC beats the EII tenfold.

I dunno what to tell you man, NAC is just way more practical than an EII, all day, everyday! Also way cheaper, easier to source parts for, relatively the same screen, the same angle, the same CP height, NAC has better CPs, better button layouts, I mean I could go on and on...plus, SEGA!

 

[voltronbadass]

Never met a doorway yet I couldnt get an E2 through and Ive moved plenty of them in very old houses with tiny doorways.

As far as diassembly time, its the same, yes it takes a little more time to get the egret back together. But to me they come apart very easily. If you ask me it takes the same amount of time to take the harness out of an E2, it just needs to be unsnapped and unstrapped, it still has connectors where it needs them to remove any bolted on parts.

Moving either cab myself has never been an issue, and Ive seen disassembled E2's fit in plenty of small cars.

Im not saying either cab is better, same monitor and to me thats what really matters.

 

[Westcb]

I own NAC and blast, I have had to pop a door off its hinges but never take apart a cab to get it through a door. A blast is less then 30 inches wide, most exterior doors are 36 inch by building code, interior doors about 31-32 inches. I would gather any house built in the last 20 years follows this except for a closet door or bathroom door. So quit shoving your cabs in bathrooms and closets :-)

 

[Tw3ek]

@mot- we know what they look like, and there are specific threads for showing off cabs.

Way to fish for compliments!

Yea, how dare someone show cabs in a thread about those cabs?

NAC all day though. Outside of a rotate mech, the E2 is a costly pain in the ass (that I admittedly still really like)

 

[voltronbadass]

How are they a pain in the ass? Aside from cost? Have you owned one?

Neither is better, they are just different designs. They are both ms9 cabs with tosh tubes.

 

[wataru330]

So quit shoving your cabs in bathrooms and closets :-)

I used butter, to grease the jambs of a walk-in linen closet. Shoulder tackled my WindyDos right in there. ^_^ There are picks in the Windy Club thread.

And you are right on, re: doorways.

The NetCity (and its brothers Uni & NNC) are the widest and biggest 'typical' (non-megalo, domy theatre, etc) sized candy.

I've got my Net into a 95 year old house, by taking the basement door off the hinges. Narrowest door in the house. No cab tear down.

And yeah, the Aero is my favorite cab ever. If I could get a tri-sync into a couple of them, I'd have four cabs only.

2 of each orientation, 2 of each rez.

 

[Tw3ek]

How are they a pain in the ass? Aside from cost? Have you owned one?

Neither is better, they are just different designs. They are both ms9 cabs with tosh tubes.

Aside from cost? Ok. Sourcing parts comes pretty readily to mind, and no I have not owned one myself, just listened to the stories of folks that do for years. It'd be pretty hard to justify dropping that kinda coin on an E2 when, as you said, basically the same cab exists elsewhere for less money.

 

[Chempop]

I think what EG was getting at with the breakdown is that the Astros body split in 2, so yes, in that sense I see how it’s easier to move (or fit it in a car) if you are completely disassembling it.

 

[voltronbadass]

Ive found any part I have ever wanted to buy for an E2, it just takes a bit longer for stuff to pop up and you need to know where to look. I used to keep a closet full of spares.

What stories have you heard people say for years about them being a pain in the ass?

Some people in this hobby would rather have an extra $500 pcb than own an E2. Some folks would rather spend that money up front on a cab. I hardly see the difference when the hobby is a huge money pit anyway and anyone seriously into the hobby blows thousands of dollars on bullshit anyway. Your preferrence may be the NAC, but without the experience of owning an E2 and dealing with one on a daily basis, who are you to judge? At least EG has owned many cabs, as have I. We have actual hands on experience and you are speculating.

I think what EG was getting at with the breakdown is that the Astros body split in 2, so yes, in that sense I see how it’s easier to move (or fit it in a car) if you are completely disassembling it.

Good point, I give you that, but as far as moving one into a house, I would love someone to post that they couldnt get their E2 through a doorway. Thats got to be one small ass doorway.

 

[Tw3ek]

Ive found any part I have ever wanted to buy for an E2, it just takes a bit longer for stuff to pop up and you need to know where to look. I used to keep a closet full of spares.

What stories have you heard people say for years about them being a pain in the ass?

Some people in this hobby would rather have an extra $500 pcb than own an E2. Some folks would rather spend that money up front on a cab. I hardly see the difference when the hobby is a huge money pit anyway and anyone seriously into the hobby blows thousands of dollars on bullshit anyway. Your preferrence may be the NAC, but without the experience of owning an E2 and dealing with one on a daily basis, who are you to judge? At least EG has owned many cabs, as have I. We have actual hands on experience and you are speculating.

That's why I asked around when I was looking to buy my first one. It's better to know what you get yourself into up front IMO. Judgement? Please. I still like the E2. It looks sweet and since I only have one cab, the rotate mech would come in quite handy. Don't think anywhere did I pass judgement on your for liking them.

 

[Chempop]

VBA likes pink cabs. Some baddass

 

[Craig]

I haven't owned either, but have played on both pretty extensively.

I would rather the Sega cabs. To me they just look 'bout it as fuck...

An egret 1 however is a different story. That's one sexy asymmetrical bitch!

 

[voltronbadass]

So you admit other than cost and and availability of parts that they arent a pain in the ass? To you thats a pain in the ass.

To me disassembling the entire cab to get it through a doorway or removing the entire monitor to reach the chassis on a NAC is a bigger pain in the ass.

Its all tit for tat, they are both just as capable cabs, both have slight differences to bicker about.

I like both, would prefer to own an E2, In my experience most people who have been in this hobby a long time ditch their NAC's for E2's when given the chance and never go back. EG is obviously an exception to that thinking, he prefers the NAC and thats fine, but at least he has the experience to back up his opinion.

 

[wataru330]

Word, Craig.

E29>E2>>>>>>>>>>>>¥€>£>£>>E3

Only Taito cab I want, is a Canary! ;^)

 

[Tw3ek]

So you admit other than cost and and availability of parts that they arent a pain in the ass? To you thats a pain in the ass.

To me disassembling the entire cab to get it through a doorway or removing the entire monitor to reach the chassis on a NAC is a pain in the ass.

Its all tit for tat, they are both just as capable cabs, both have slight differences to bicker about.

I like both, would prefer to own an E2, most people who have been in this hobby a long time ditch their NAC's for E2's when given the chance and never go back. EG is obviously an exception to that thinking, he prefers the NAC and thats fine, but at least he has the experience to back up his opinion.

Yea, I'd rather spend time playing games on a working machine than waiting around for parts. To me, that would be a pain in the ass. It's just that too, an opinion. Nobody's telling you that you can't like the E2.

 

[voltronbadass]

You should give E2 ownership a try before you knock it, you may find the difficulty of sourcing parts may be outweighed by other design features if you are open minded enough to try one. Own both, then judge.

In my opinion both cabs are super reliable, parts rarely have to be sourced for either. E2 owners are often complaining about sourcing cosmetic stuff.

 

[Tw3ek]

I'd be all for it, but probably not for the price they command. Maybe someday.

 

[TonK]

How about the PSU's on both? Is one more robust than the other?

Sound?

And monitors are the same, correct?

How stout are MS9's?

 

[Kid Panda]

How about the PSU's on both? Is one more robust than the other?

Sound?

And monitors are the same, correct?

How stout are MS9's?

As far as size is concerned, the Astro PSU has a larger footprint but actual output is pretty much the same. Anything I've thrown in either machine has run without issue. The Astro PSU is enclosed whereas the E2 PSU is pretty exposed. Both cabs support stereo and from what I can tell the sound quality is the same but this may be due to the age of my speakers. Both of my cabs have the same MS9s in them and from what I can tell the picture quality is exactly the same.

 

[mr_b]

I had a pair of E2 cabs. They are good cabs, but eventually trying to source control panels wasn't worth it in the end. The joys of them for me was the big booty storage space. Having owned a Midway Woody, a blast city and an E2.

There's no perfect cab. But in the end for me. I'd still take a Blast City as my one and only cab. The ability to toss anything in them and the variety of control panels wins out for me. The only real gripe of a blast is the missing -5v. But a quick mod fixes that.

 

[pipes]

I wouldn't base my decision on which cab can fit through a doorway easier. Seriously, how many times are you going to have to do that anyways?

I have a NAC and it's a great cab.... Probably my favorite out of all the ones I own. The only way I would get rid of it is if someone offered to trade me for their E2.

 

[wataru330]

Thanks to the PF tube, trisync chassis, killer stereo sound and ease of sourcing parts...my next cab would be a New Net City. The body shape are ugly as sin, but when you sit down and play...it's perfect.

I'd keep my Aero (and happily pick up another) for tate STGs. For hori games, the New Net has my vote.

*i was able to get my Net City (same footprint as NNC) thru an OLD narrow house's 29" doorway without taking it apart. Just popped my door off the hinges, and viola.

 

[Electric Grave]

I have an Aero, have 2 E2s, have a NAC. I've had several different models of arcades and by far the NAC wins, I regret selling one of my NACs. The E2 is nice for the rotating mech, specially if you can only have one cab and you have a hard time tateing your monitor. NACs is the best choice, specially if you can swing 2 cabs or 3 cabs. I do care that the NAC can be dismantled entirely, it makes it much easier when dealing with certain situations.

I'd trade my E2s for NACs if the opportunity presents itself.

 

[pipes]

I'd trade my E2s for NACs if the opportunity presents itself.

If you ever find yourself roaming around Toronto with one of your E2's in the back seat feel free to swing by.....my NAC has your name on it

 

[theMot]

I have an Aero, have 2 E2s, have a NAC. I've had several different models of arcades and by far the NAC wins, I regret selling one of my NACs. The E2 is nice for the rotating mech, specially if you can only have one cab and you have a hard time tateing your monitor. NACs is the best choice, specially if you can swing 2 cabs or 3 cabs. I do care that the NAC can be dismantled entirely, it makes it much easier when dealing with certain situations.

I'd trade my E2s for NACs if the opportunity presents itself.

Which one is the best for playing RPG's?