NEO TURF MASTERS: Los Turfes Club! Score Thread.

Ken7stars

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How many times did you get albatross or hole in one?

I believe that albatrosses about 8-10 times in my life and hole in one many times, more than 50 I calculate.

There are many times that I get enough eagles from long shots and I don't get to hit the 4th or 7th hole.

Albatross by luck 1 time at the beginning
Albatross calculated 4 times (2 hole 4 australia, 2 hole 18 australia

15 holes in one, 3-4 by luck
Many eagles

When i started to write my book, the shots by luck it’s very few

I hope with time to mastered the wind
And shot safely even when there’s wind 15

For now i’m at the 7th month of school!!
I think it rest 2 years!!-)
 

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Albatross by luck 1 time at the beginning
Albatross calculated 4 times (2 hole 4 australia, 2 hole 18 australia

15 holes in one, 3-4 by luck
Many eagles

When i started to write my book, the shots by luck it’s very few

I hope with time to mastered the wind
And shot safely even when there’s wind 15

For now i’m at the 7th month of school!!
I think it rest 2 years!!-)
Jajajaa incredible work!! Congratulations.

I never do an albatros on the 18th.
The 4th and a few in the 7th.
 

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Jajajaa incredible work!! Congratulations.

I never do an albatros on the 18th.
The 4th and a few in the 7th.

Soon i will post my bests shots
I’m waiting ´cause i’m trying to do an eagle/albatross /hio for every hole when possible
But 25-30 shots will be good

And this is my try to do eagle/hio even with strong wind
The point is with these many values,
Try to put everything in less sheets as possible
But it’s not easy ´cause is really much

For now i’ve 5 sheets for every degree of wind
But i want to simplify
It will be few sheets a3, ˋcause a4 is to little
This work can be easy by doing little by little, and take it as funny


 

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Soon i will post my bests shots
I’m waiting ´cause i’m trying to do an eagle/albatross /hio for every hole when possible
But 25-30 shots will be good

And this is my try to do eagle/hio even with strong wind
The point is with these many values,
Try to put everything in less sheets as possible
But it’s not easy ´cause is really much

For now i’ve 5 sheets for every degree of wind
But i want to simplify
It will be few sheets a3, ˋcause a4 is to little
This work can be easy by doing little by little, and take it as funny



Pics is upside down
Can’t find a way to put it right
 

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I’ve made again -24 in Australia
Very happy for the hole in one at hole 8 with downspin
And eagles at hole 6 and 14
Now i’ll revisite the other 3 circuits

Enjoy-)

 

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I’ve made again -24 in Australia
Very happy for the hole in one at hole 8 with downspin
And eagles at hole 6 and 14
Now i’ll revisite the other 3 circuits

Enjoy-)


Once again -24
Or better, -25 missed at the last put at hole 18
Anyway, maybe my best match
Eagle from rough
Albatross with wind
Eagle with downspin

I hope one day to do better

And hope you enjoy
It was amazing, very emotionally

 

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Beautiful hole in one with downspin

Even the putting at hole 10
Almost albatross at 18

With little luck could be -27

I start to think almeida is better than robert

Congratulations! -))

Thank you very much.

The Japanese, the German and Fernando are clearly the best and each one has its strengths and weaknesses.

Almeida achieves comfortable positions with his power but he has very obvious lack of precision, Robert has an admirable precision that allows him to get many distant eagles and considerable power.

The Japanese can be as powerful as Robert and he gets very precise shots with a lot of height.

I've played with all 3 and in the end you stand out with the one you play the most. The circuit you play on also has a lot of influence.
 

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Thank you very much.

The Japanese, the German and Fernando are clearly the best and each one has its strengths and weaknesses.

Almeida achieves comfortable positions with his power but he has very obvious lack of precision, Robert has an admirable precision that allows him to get many distant eagles and considerable power.

The Japanese can be as powerful as Robert and he gets very precise shots with a lot of height.

I've played with all 3 and in the end you stand out with the one you play the most. The circuit you play on also has a lot of influence.

Yes, for me the technician will be perfect
If he will have the power of robert or almeida
The "C" move slowly, he have the 110y, 120y
With robert i have to do lany shots with the 130 only
But it’s difficult with him to do eagles in the par 5

For me it’s good robert ‘cause i never miss the 100%+, and he’s precise as you said
With the japanese and almeida can happen to miss 100%+

It will be good to have the perfect golfer
But they did a difficult game

Yes i think for almeida Australia and usa it’s very good
Maybe usa is the more difficult course for got a high score
But almeida can arrive in green at hole 8 in usa
With robert is possible only with wind

I see you play with much security
Shot quickly even in the green
For me this is a good point to correct my defect
Not for to be quick when i shot
But to play secure and relax
‘Cause the countdown "hurry up" bother me a little

This game have many sides
With time and experience maybe i will arrive to be constant as you for score as -25 or -26

This is my "dream course"
-29 with not only eagles, even hio and 1 albatross
It’s very difficult at my level
But maybe one day will happen


I don’t know many values for downspin, i’ve did few times eagles from rough and bunker
Missed hio that i’ve already did before
By learning this and others, maybe my dream will come true

And, hat in robert style!-)

 

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Getting a -29 for me today is impossible, I'm not saying that others can't do it, but today I can't.
I'll explain. My best score on holes 1-9 is 21 shots, I must have done it 3 or 4 times, and my best score on holes 10-18 is 23 shots, I think I got it once or twice.


If we put these scores together, I would get a -28, which would also be a very difficult task, I would have to happen to do my best performances in the same game. I will have played more than 1000 games in my life and I see it as difficult to Today at most -28 and it is extremely difficult for him to do it.

If I ever get 20 hits on 1-9, or 22 hits on 10-18, I'll start to think it's possible to do -29, although it will still be extremely difficult.
 

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Getting a -29 for me today is impossible, I'm not saying that others can't do it, but today I can't.
I'll explain. My best score on holes 1-9 is 21 shots, I must have done it 3 or 4 times, and my best score on holes 10-18 is 23 shots, I think I got it once or twice.


If we put these scores together, I would get a -28, which would also be a very difficult task, I would have to happen to do my best performances in the same game. I will have played more than 1000 games in my life and I see it as difficult to Today at most -28 and it is extremely difficult for him to do it.

If I ever get 20 hits on 1-9, or 22 hits on 10-18, I'll start to think it's possible to do -29, although it will still be extremely difficult.

Yes it’s difficult
I translate this difficult in this:
I like to write notes ´bout all the values
This brings me a little advantage to arrive almost everytime really near to the pin even with wind 15 east or south

So "difficult" it means find the time
Set at level 8 (so i can have strong wind)
And have the patiance to understand the directions, do shots with downspin with many clubs
At now, i’ve did hio with downspin with 0 wind, 20-25 times
Few times with wind

But it will be good to know the others values for downspin with the others clubs
So it’s obvious by knowing this, that the hio/eagles with wind will be more

The base for me is say : this game have many values
Ok, and what is the next step?

´cause by saying only this, -28 will remains a dream

I think is very good to do -24 or -25 with eagles/hio with 0 wind
It’s very good

It will be more good to master the wind
It seems difficult
But when it’s known that with wind 13 east
I must give 14 movements of the joy, and 4-5% power + with the 160y
The result is good
I’m closer to the pin, for an easy put
So, i’m not in hurry, this strong wind doesn’t bother me

Yes it must consider also the height, bounces
The values changes club by club
But with time it can becomes possible to do some eagles /hio with strong wind

Obviously; if there’s wind 14 south/east
With the 150y, i lose 28 yards
And i must give ‘round 8 movements of the joy
With the 160, 170, 180y
The base value can’t change so much with the same height, and same position of the white arrow

This Is a common point for every player
Nobody likes wind 12 against
I also don’t like it
If i stop myself at i don’t like it
I will go many times in rough/bunker

I’ve worked ‘til now ‘bout the directions in total 3 hours
For now i have an eagle with wind 8 south/east
Another with 12 east
Almost 30 with wind from 1 to 3
And it was beautiful with 12 east

The point is that i don’t remember the directions, ‘cause i’ve not written
Brain remember simple things
Brain can’t remember all the values of ntm
By playng ghost ‘n ghoblins, is not difficult for brain remember how to arrive at the princess

Ntm is more difficult

I think after all is the meaning of the game
They have made this game difficult
It’s possible only with many time and experience to arrive at this

I’ve started 9 months ago with -6 in usa
Then learn something and -14
After 2 months -18

And my first -21 was an event!!!
Only birdies and 3 eagles in australia
I was happy for 3 days!!!-))
Then -22, -23
And -24 four times

My first -25 it depends by me
I can do it with eagles /hio with 0 wind
That’s good, i will be happy

I will be more happy even with eagles /hio with wind 3, 5, 8
Not only by luck
Luck happens only sometimes

My mistake is play without before study
Is sure that by knowing the same values, next time it will be -24 again
Or hoping to find 0 wind in many holes

I see this game as a school

As for scotland course
My first score was +7
Then +3, -2, -10

My evolution depends by me
The game is stocked with all his values
To discover all these misteries
It just need to take pen and book

This is my way to see this difficult game
There’s a part of fun, of enthusiasm, of luck, of disappointment for the wrong shots
And a part of study

But this is only my way
Obviously Everyone plays in his own way
And this is the best way

I apprechiate people that do high scores only with talent
For me it’s impossible conceive this game without doing some studies

So I think this can be possible

Maybe -28 ir -29 will rest a dream
Maybe one day it will be

If will be, i will remember it for all my life

It depends by me, not by the game
 

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From the way I understand this game, my potential today is -28. Because it is the result of combining my best 9 first holes and my best last 9 holes.

Now if I want to do -27, the first thing I have to do is get 9 eagles, no matter what you do on the other holes.

Your work is admirable and it is obvious that it gives you results.

What is your best score in the first 9 holes?
And the last 9?
 

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From the way I understand this game, my potential today is -28. Because it is the result of combining my best 9 first holes and my best last 9 holes.

Now if I want to do -27, the first thing I have to do is get 9 eagles, no matter what you do on the other holes.

Your work is admirable and it is obvious that it gives you results.

What is your best score in the first 9 holes?
And the last 9?

Is -14 after 9 holes
And -13 the others 9

Maybe it sounds boring this stuff ‘bout learning
Even for me many times is boring

There can be more results today
If I had put more effort into it

So i still don’t know many values ‘bout downspin, hook, slice and others
I’m not surprised if -26 is not arrived yet

Then there’s a lot to say ‘bout this game
What about to do -23 with spinner
Or with the technician in japan or germany
Is possible by doing eagles not in the par 5
And this will be maybe more value than a -24 with robert

For my level, i don’t considerate myself a professional
I’m only a good player in evolution
A natural side that try to go forward little by little

it’s obvious start with -6 and with time arrive at -24
the more i made effort with studies, the more results arrive before

Maybe i’ve choosed the wrong game
Too complicated!!-)
 

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Is -14 after 9 holes
And -13 the others 9

Maybe it sounds boring this stuff ‘bout learning
Even for me many times is boring

There can be more results today
If I had put more effort into it

So i still don’t know many values ‘bout downspin, hook, slice and others
I’m not surprised if -26 is not arrived yet

Then there’s a lot to say ‘bout this game
What about to do -23 with spinner
Or with the technician in japan or germany
Is possible by doing eagles not in the par 5
And this will be maybe more value than a -24 with robert

For my level, i don’t considerate myself a professional
I’m only a good player in evolution
A natural side that try to go forward little by little

it’s obvious start with -6 and with time arrive at -24
the more i made effort with studies, the more results arrive before

Maybe i’ve choosed the wrong game
Too complicated!!-)
With -24,you are one of the BEST in the world.
 

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With -24,you are one of the BEST in the world.

Thanks
But with almeida is more difficult-)

Maybe my best match is -22 at level 8
There’s the video in my channel

It was wind scirocco, monsone and the bora
Difficults puts, difficults recovery

By the way
Yesterday i’ve made some studies for the white arrow

I was surprised that with the same power, 0 wind, same height; one time the ball entered
And the second time no

Then i realized that when the white arrow is straight (i call position 0) the yards done is little more than when the white arrow is at left or right

The difference was one little line under nice

With nice precise, white arrow straight i’ve made 151 yards with downspin
The same but with white arrow at left (5-6 movements of joy), the yards was 152 (1 yard less

It’s interesting
 

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Very interesting.


I had already realized that with the same shot sometimes it goes in and sometimes it doesn't. In the Par3 holes it has happened to me innumerable times
 

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Very interesting.


I had already realized that with the same shot sometimes it goes in and sometimes it doesn't. In the Par3 holes it has happened to me innumerable times

Yes, this when there’s 0 wind
With wind is different

The same for me
At hole 3 and 8 in Australia with 0 wind
It needs the précise direction
One little movement more right or left
And hole in one gone

Mine -24 is -26 or -27 missed at this holes
There’s no lines to follow between robert and the flag
So it’s easy to miss hio or eagles alteady done before
With time this can becomes more easy, and experience

But this is the game
What push us to play
Nothing is done until hole 18

And i hope to do -27 or -28 in 2 years
´cause the day that i’ll do
Propably i will stop playing

This is a guy that play in its own way
With long shots and hio with the club 250y

I’ve something to learn from you and him
And others players

From one side, i don’t like to copy shots of others players
From the other side, it can be good to expand knowlegde
It’s the secrets that you’ve said

 

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Yes, this when there’s 0 wind
With wind is different

The same for me
At hole 3 and 8 in Australia with 0 wind
It needs the précise direction
One little movement more right or left
And hole in one gone

Mine -24 is -26 or -27 missed at this holes
There’s no lines to follow between robert and the flag
So it’s easy to miss hio or eagles alteady done before
With time this can becomes more easy, and experience

But this is the game
What push us to play
Nothing is done until hole 18

And i hope to do -27 or -28 in 2 years
´cause the day that i’ll do
Propably i will stop playing

This is a guy that play in its own way
With long shots and hio with the club 250y

I’ve something to learn from you and him
And others players

From one side, i don’t like to copy shots of others players
From the other side, it can be good to expand knowlegde
It’s the secrets that you’ve said

My advice is that you learn from everyone you can learn, we all take this game to the limit.
 

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My advice is that you learn from everyone you can learn, we all take this game to the limit.

Yes ´cause this game have no limit
Have no end

I like to learn something ´bout others players
And maybe i don’t know others players learn something ´bout me, for my video

For me it’s good to have my style
Play in my way
But even take something good from others

Then it will be no good to do 18 holes only with what i’ve learnt from others

This reminds me at a song of dream theater: "learning to live"

I see in japan in this week
I play it from ´round 1 week
In 1 week i can’t arrive to do -23

It needs to learn more reference
There’s one par 3 blind
Rough /heavy rough before the green
Greens raised so it needs to use one/two
clubs more
Hole 3 and 9 in downhill

I’ve did -24 in Australia after 6 months
Maybe it will take the same time to do it in japan, usa, germany

Maube usa is the more difficult to get a high score
Not for the difficulties of the singles holes
But for the par 5 too long

Australia is a false easy course
Anyway have his difficulties

Germany is almost the same of japan
This 2 is not difficult when some references has been learnt

I mean this for level 4
At level 8 all 4 corses is difficult

Scotland is little more difficult at level 4
But when all the values of rough/heavy rough is revealed, when you know what club use for every hole
Is not difficult as it seems
At level 8, yes, is difficult

With time it will be possible to arrive at -21 in scotland at level 4
 

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This is my notes for scotland
This course is good ´cause with learning i will find my definition of professional

If one day i will do constantly -21 at level 4
I will say i’m a professional



 

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This is my first -24 in japan
At level 2
But i don’t see differences from level 4 for the wind
The same for positions of pins

Nowi play always without the 30 seconds "hurry up "
Take all the time to reasoning with no hurry
By the option in the original bios
Like this is more easy to do eagles/hio

From now i will always play without hurry
For do my best in potential

 
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