NEO GEO AES+
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Welcome back, Spike!
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What is he expecting? Mask ROMs?
Edit: Did they actually say its FlashRom? (not that I'm expecting that its going to be otherwise)
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Should have killed him when you had the chance.
His mom is still being passed around too.
SnappleMan
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oh man Dion, there's a name I forgot about till now, thanks... I remember when he was calling people on the forum threatening them and demanding they stop talking shit about his grift
maybe I should have bought this AES+ on amazon so I can return it when I see his name in the special thanks on the box
maybe I should have bought this AES+ on amazon so I can return it when I see his name in the special thanks on the box
venchia3
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The thing is, this is a product of interest to: 1) whom never had the chance to own a Neo Geo, or 2) nostalgic/curious long term NG users.
What really is amazing is that category 1) already starts to complain about the reproduction quality of items they probably never possessed earlier, I mean…what?
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Seriously.
I've owned a few AES consoles over the years and while I wouldn't say they felt flimsy or cheap they did always feel like something you had to be careful with.
venchia3
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Looks like a cheapo current version of Sly Stallone and also what is that photoshopped background
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He’s here!
@chrisr could we please get the option of corrected inserts for the new games. I’m not even joking bud the shenanigans you and Dion did are legendary and still spoken about to this day. I would pay a whole $10 for a NGFUSA insert. With 10 games that’s $100, and I’m just one retard - there’s lots more of us too! You guys could be rich beyond your freakiest dreams!
Let’s make Neo‘s Freaked again, 2026.
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As we all know AI is always right so I asked ChatGPT this:
Let's say I got the rights to reproduce 10,000 copies of Garou Mark of the Wolves for the Neo Geo AES. Compare the factory price I have to pay for the production of ONLY the PCBs between flashrom OTP and MaskROM technologies. Consider the ROM size of game in question.
It gave me a really long answer with the (probably bullshit) reasoning, but the TL;DR is:
Let's say I got the rights to reproduce 10,000 copies of Garou Mark of the Wolves for the Neo Geo AES. Compare the factory price I have to pay for the production of ONLY the PCBs between flashrom OTP and MaskROM technologies. Consider the ROM size of game in question.
It gave me a really long answer with the (probably bullshit) reasoning, but the TL;DR is:
- Mask ROM PCB cost (per unit @ 10k run):
~$25 – $60 - OTP Flash ROM PCB cost (per unit @ 10k run):
~$7 – $18
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these goobs... they disgust me
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I wonder if the manual will be the same for all languages including JP.
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I have seen this and I absolutely disagree with the position they guys in the video are taken (obviously I don't agree with being aggressive but I digress). They are saying basically that its ok for a new indie game for the Neo Geo to cost 300 - 400 bucks now, because they have yet to make money on the games, but Neo Geo's fresh AES titles have already made their money. With this type of reasoning every indie title on any system should cost 300-400 bucks and that's stupid. I always thought that new AES titles are so expensive because the carts are expensive to produce not because indies need to earn several hundreds of bucks per sale. Now there is the opportunity to team up with Plaion and produce AES games cheaply, so it is acceptable for customers now to expect to pay 80 Euro for a new game. My two cents anyway.
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SnappleMan
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yeah I work in game dev as a composer and just imagining something I work on getting a niche cart release basically saps all the funds they'd have to pay me for my work unless partnering with someone like limited run or whatever other manchildren-aimed repro quasi-grifters. I dont know if I agree that $400 should be reasonable, but definitely doesn't seem doable at $90
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I have no idea what’s costing Plaion to make these new carts, probably a few dollars. They should provide developers access to these carts so games can be as affordable as possible, even if not 90 bucks.
Case in point: Pixel Heart have a ton of Neo Drift Out stock left priced at 300 Euro a pop. Good luck selling those to new AES+ owners now that the perceived value for new AES carts being 80 Euro.
SnappleMan
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Buttafuocomaxxing, I will say I do admire his lifelong commitment to being a scumbag
SnappleMan
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Definitely would be cool if Plaion can start publishing indie neo games, if they open that pipeline to devs then I would expect $90 indies as well as classic re-releases for sure. I've worked for SNK on a bunch of their newer games in the last 6-7 years and they've seemed very open to all kinds of endeavors, I see no reason a new era of neo-geo development can't begin now.
Also anyone who's been making money in the repro/unofficial market knows they've been on borrowed time till either something like this or litigation happens, I don't feel bad for anyone charging too much for retro bullshit.
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That would make perfect sense. Indie devs will be able to sell more games and make more money, and Plaion get more people buying their system. Everybody wins.
NeoSeeD
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Yeah. I agree with you on this. I was a bit surprised by their position considering that most modern devs list their games on various digital storefronts in addition to whatever physical run they put on sale. Currently, the public doesn't know the cost or design of Plaion's carts or what a third party contract would look like, so they are likely jumping the gun on this.
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It‘s a shite argument as you can get new indie mega drive games for like 60 euros. The reason they charged 300 euros is because that’s what Neo Geo games cost new in the early 2000s.
Let the indies make their money of course, but they will need to find a route to publish with Plaion. They must be able to make these things for $25.
Gaoh
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God I hope not, hopefully these idiots that want reversible inserts don’t ruin it for everyone else. I am aiming to Japanese and Us carts for that reason.
And they complain about originality
