MVS cabinet price guide.

[SSS]

Why not? Could include everything from Big Reds to Neo MVS 2 golds and Neo 29 candies etc..

Instead of a grade scale of extremely common, rare, etc.. Could be based on condition, monitor burn in, shape of wood, art work, marquee lights, etc..

 

[lithy]

I think the problem is it just depends on two things.

Who you're buying it from, and who is buying it.

I could've bought a perfect condition, 6 slot Big Red with six games including Viewpoint, League Bowling, and then some early fighters for 200 dollars at auction.

Now if I had that same cab in the right part of the country and found the right buyer, I could ask probably 1000 or more on the boards or eBay.

General rule of thumb for the price guide would be, buy your cab at auction or from an op liquidating his warehouse and you can get any Neo cab you want for less than 500 dollars easy.

But if you're buying a cab out of the enthusiast scene or eBay where you have thousands more potential buyers that actually want a Neo Geo (unlike most ops nowadays) you're going to pay much much more. There are just two totally different markets for MVS arcade stuff.

But here would be mine from auction experience

any converted cab- 100-200
any dedicated 2 slot 150-250
any dedicated 4 slot 200-300
dedicated 6 slot 200 (I've only seen one sell)
mini red 2 slot 575 (only seen one sell, it was two guys that wanted it for a birthday party room so I see this as an anomaly)
Never seen any Neo Gold's sell.

For reference, I bought my 4 slot big red cab at auction for 275 taxes and fees included, out the door. I sold it 2 years later with some minor restoration for 500 bucks on eBay. The hardest part of selling a cab is finding an interested buyer with the means to pick up a 400 pound hunk of wood locally.

 

[SSS]

I think the problem is it just depends on two things.

Who you're buying it from, and who is buying it.

I could've bought a perfect condition, 6 slot Big Red with six games including Viewpoint, League Bowling, and then some early fighters for 200 dollars at auction.

Now if I had that same cab in the right part of the country and found the right buyer, I could ask probably 1000 or more on the boards or eBay.

General rule of thumb for the price guide would be, buy your cab at auction or from an op liquidating his warehouse and you can get any Neo cab you want for less than 500 dollars easy.

But if you're buying a cab out of the enthusiast scene or eBay where you have thousands more potential buyers that actually want a Neo Geo (unlike most ops nowadays) you're going to pay much much more. There are just two totally different markets for MVS arcade stuff.

But here would be mine from auction experience

any converted cab- 100-200
any dedicated 2 slot 150-250
any dedicated 4 slot 200-300
dedicated 6 slot 200 (I've only seen one sell)
mini red 2 slot 575 (only seen one sell, it was two guys that wanted it for a birthday party room so I see this as an anomaly)
Never seen any Neo Gold's sell.

For reference, I bought my 4 slot big red cab at auction for 275 taxes and fees included, out the door. I sold it 2 years later with some minor restoration for 500 bucks on eBay. The hardest part of selling a cab is finding an interested buyer with the means to pick up a 400 pound hunk of wood locally.

I agree auctions and private sales do vary price wise. Possibly could include different categories in the price guide. But I think limits do need to be set for reasonable prices. 1200 buy it nows are absolutely retarded.

 

[themisterfalcon]

You would have to list based on location too. A New Astro City in the midwest is going to fetch about 25-40% more than it would on the east coast.

I think most people buying and selling cabs already have a good idea of what they are worth. It's not like these things are traded as often as cartridges.

 

[not sonic]

last thing we need is price jacking/fixing in another segment.

i say abolish price lists all together.

 

[SNKJorge]

Heh, a MVS FULL Kit price guide is in the works, just needs to get
approved.

last thing we need is price jacking/fixing in another segment.

i say abolish price lists all together.

 

[lithy]

I agree auctions and private sales do vary price wise. Possibly could include different categories in the price guide. But I think limits do need to be set for reasonable prices. 1200 buy it nows are absolutely retarded.

There is a jerk in south FL that buys cabs (notably Neos, probably other stuff) to throw up on eBay. Nesagwa knows him well and despises him because he messes up all the prices at the Orlando Super Auctions. The problem is, he wouldn't keep doing it if when he turned around to sell a 2 slot big red on eBay for 1500 bucks he couldn't find a buyer.

So fortunately or unfortunately there are people out there that will pay that for a cab.

 

[lithy]

Heh, a MVS FULL Kit price guide is in the works, just needs to get
approved.

I hope Ghostlop is included

Both my uber rare one-off Kinko's kit, as well as NGF France's 5 (or was it 10?) kits.

 

[not sonic]

Heh, a MVS FULL Kit price guide is in the works, just needs to get
approved.

you tool.

cant wait to see how you gradually increase all the prices and then unload your collection.


cab prices are far too random. way too many factors affect the price. condition, location, transportation, even the method of sale (ebay vs rl auctions.)

hell even the season effects prices.

 

[xmods (jwm2)]

If not a price guide how about a price check thread? Where everyone posts the location, method of purchase, amount, condition of the cab, etc. Basically so we know about what to expect in each area.

 

[themisterfalcon]

you tool.

cant wait to see how you gradually increase all the prices and then unload your collection.

 

[SNKJorge]

I hope Ghostlop is included

Both my uber rare one-off Kinko's kit, as well as NGF France's 5 (or was it 10?) kits.

Most likely this won't be included, or maybe just as a reference with the history
of the game letting people know there was never an official release.

 

[not sonic]

i think a compiled list of documented transactions complete with date and location would be far more beneficial than a simple compiled price list.

i feel the lists are not updated enough to accurately represent the entire market nor do they really substantiate any of the claims.

granted this would take much more effort, but it would be more beneficial in the long run than a list of assumptions.

 

[Dolphin]

A cabinet price guide would be a great thing, so long as it's underpinned by a very thoroughly worked out condition grading scale.

 

[xmods (jwm2)]

We need an easy database that people can enter in their own transactions as they please, but it would need to be highly moderated or only available to registered members to keep the losers from skewing the figures. But it would be a nice to have some sort of reference for people to look at.

 

[aria]

Cabinet prices are too difficult, IMO. Too many variables, legal "conversions"/"homebrews" from existing cabs or other materials --short of valuing generic Big Reds or other original dedicated cabs, I dunno.

 

[themisterfalcon]

i think a transaction list is the easiest way to go. condition with woddies atleast is going to be so specific it wouldn't be worth the effort. i also think there should be a general notes place so whoever is posting transaction data could say "Buyer was very eager to get a cab" or "seller wanted cab gone ASAP" since these can determine amount paid/sold significantly.

maybe the seller or buyer could just submit an in depth description of cab condition, location, cost, any underlying circumstances that affected the sale, etc etc. with a few pics inside and out. this could be submitted to a "cabinet database" moderator and said mod could post the submission (at their discretion). possibly keep this annonymous for seller/buyer maybe? don't know if anyone would care.

 

[Xian Xi]

I think price guides are a catch22, as a collector you want to know the value of your item for keeping and for selling but when you buy items you want to get them at a reasonable or cheap rate. But if a non-collector sees the price guide.....

Here's an example:

I want to buy an MS3 english kit in perfect condition and find one from a local arcade op. He offers to sell it to me for say $50 and then I go to pick it up and everything is in pristine shape like new but then he says "I saw a price guide that says I should be getting between $200-$250 for this so the price has changed to $200", Fuck me.

I know its a bad example, I for one dont care if we have one or not as I always get good deals no matter what, but I just wanted to throw that in for some reason.

 

[Weevus]

I think price guides are a catch22, as a collector you want to know the value of your item for keeping and for selling but when you buy items you want to get them at a reasonable or cheap rate. But if a non-collector sees the price guide.....

Here's an example:

I want to buy an MS3 english kit in perfect condition and find one from a local arcade op. He offers to sell it to me for say $50 and then I go to pick it up and everything is in pristine shape like new but then he says "I saw a price guide that says I should be getting between $200-$250 for this so the price has changed to $200", Fuck me.

I know its a bad example, I for one dont care if we have one or not as I always get good deals no matter what, but I just wanted to throw that in for some reason.

That's actually a pretty good point. I've seen tons of auctions on ebay where they reference this site and price guide, and set their price accordingly.

 

[lithy]

www.basementarcade.com has lists and lists of about 100 auctions with cab selling prices. I used that as a starting point when I was first trying to figure out what to pay for my Neo cab.

 

[Ruell]

hhmmm.. Doubt there will ever be a price guide. The price depends solely on the area and whether you are buying at auction, from a collector, or operator. Not to mention other variables such dedicated/conversion debates etc.

I usually get all my cabs at auction. Many of the dedicated neo cabs have went cheap at the auctions I've went to. I bought my first 4 slot dedicated for $200 (needed a new marquee, wiring, etc). Big Red 4 slots have went for about $300 for a perfect condtion. 6 slots went from $200(crappy monitor) to $600 (perfectly working) all of them having all the games filled. So in some cases the games themselves were worth more than buying the cab itself. I actually bought a mini 2 slot in perfect condition (just needed to replace the PSU which I fried. stupid thing was repaired before I got it) for $350. It came with Puzzle Bobble and Blues Journey. I'm sure many people here would gladly pay more than $500 for it if they were there.

So I'd say a Cabinet price guide is worthless. Why not do a MVS parts and accessories price list instead. Prices of motherboards, CPOs, marquees, etc are more stable and easier to price than a cab.

 

[themisterfalcon]

revitalizing this thread just in case someone here wants to take the initiative to start a "cabinets sold" database or something.

I live in NW Ohio and recently sold a 4-slot big red cabinet for $225 with no mobo. 25" monitor. thread here...

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164831

 

[DegenerateSkate]

It simply won't work in my opinon. I think it's just a judgement call really. I feel that it's too difficult to rate the condition of a cab and set a price range. There is so many things that would need to be considered, for example, wiring neatly done, or does it look like spaghetti, screen burn, mobo, button placement, cabinet art, and so on. F%ck I don't even like the Neo MVS and AES price list; it's so broad and somewhat inaccurate. I mean look at Xian Xi, he's been selling a beautiful and rare fight fever MVS cart for quite some time now, and he is asking far below the listed price.

 

[Neo Alec]

There are too many variables to make a guide practical. It's one of those things where the market will work itself out. There's no need to tell people what they should be willing to pay. It's different if you're a retail owner or a personal collector. You almost can't put a price on the intangible value of a collector's piece like a complete cab, and retail/arcade people are going to pay what they're going to pay, regardless. The completed auctions listings on ebay will always know the current price better than some old guide on a web page. Someone about to make a huge commitment like a new cab will do their own research.

 

[LoneSage]

Bobak said it best.