Movie opinions thread (what have you seen, what did you think?)

[SouthtownKid]

It's pretty snooty and gay to grade Cameron the way you're grading him. You're eating popcorn and sipping champaign at the same time.

Cameron and Snyder aren't even in the same realm in terms of ability to connect with the audience. One can do it very well. The other one is Zack Snyder.

Cameron connected in a special way with two of his movies. Titanic and Avatar. One connected with 12 year old girls and the other connected because apparently there are drastically more furries out there than we had any idea of. Neither of those movies are great other than on a technical level, except to their intended audiences. Most of the rest his movies, you are blowing up in your mind. Aliens was popular enough, but it wasn't this mega blockbuster beloved on the level of Star Wars like you're making it out to be. You like him, cool. For me, it's like being impressed with a very cleanly executed paint-by-numbers.

I have never eaten popcorn while sipping champagne, but now I'm intrigued. I'll report back.

 

[Lagduf]

I have never seen Titanic.

 

[SouthtownKid]

I have never seen Titanic.

knock yourself out.


knock yourself out at about the 20 minute mark. Because you basically know the whole movie at that point. Every single thing from then on is going to play out in exactly the cliched, rote way you think it is for the entire remaining 2 hours and 54 minutes, so you might as well get some shuteye. You'll miss one good laugh but avoid 3 or 4 facepalms near the end.

Curious to hear your opinion if you do give it a whirl, though.

 

[Lagduf]

Let me amend my previous statement: I have, of course, seen Kate Winslet’s tits in that movie. But that’s it.

I will probably never watch the movie. If I want to see a boat sink at the end of a four hour film I’m watching Das Boot.

 

[SouthtownKid]

I will probably never watch the movie. If I want to see a boat sink at the end of a four hour film I’m watching Das Boot.

spoiler alert dangit

 

[Lagduf]

 

[StevenK]

Titanic 2: Submersible is rumoured to be 96 hours long, although all of the action actually happens in the first 0.004 seconds

 

[Taiso]

Cameron connected in a special way with two of his movies. Titanic and Avatar. One connected with 12 year old girls and the other connected because apparently there are drastically more furries out there than we had any idea of. Neither of those movies are great other than on a technical level, except to their intended audiences. Most of the rest his movies, you are blowing up in your mind. Aliens was popular enough, but it wasn't this mega blockbuster beloved on the level of Star Wars like you're making it out to be. You like him, cool. For me, it's like being impressed with a very cleanly executed paint-by-numbers.

The only one of us 'blowing up' anything in their mind is you. The man has had an unparalleled string of consistent cinematic success as a director that you want to will away because you judge him on some obnoxious scale that has no objective bearing on his output.

Do I 'like' Cameron? I don't think I 'like' Cameron. But I acknowledge that what he's done, over the span of his career, is almost singular in that time. But here's STK to let us all know people REALLY like popcorn but that's all it is so try a nice chianti with some fava beans. Good luck with that.

Bro. If that many people are still eating that popcorn all these years later, that is not Zack Snyder or Michael Bay tier and it's not even close. Their stars have long faded. Cameron's last film made 2 billion. Sorry to channel the spirit of Fami on you but you need it.

I have never eaten popcorn while sipping champagne, but now I'm intrigued. I'll report back.

You just did it in this thread so your analysis should be coming very soon.

 

[Tarma]

Titanic 2: Submersible is rumoured to be 96 hours long, although all of the action actually happens in the first 0.004 seconds

And we still know the ending.

 

[Tarma]

Enemy of the State - Entertaining 1998 thriller from Tony Scott and starring Will Smith and Gene Hackman.

Looking back on this now, one of the more interesting aspects is the supporting cast. While the likes of John Voight, Lisa Bonet, Jason Robards and Gabriel Byrne were established names (and the latter two, here, are basically cameos), the cast also included a lot of upcoming actors, most better known now for their comedy - Jamie Kennedy, Jack Black, Seth Green, and Jason Lee all have minor supporting roles. Tom Sizemore and Philip Baker Hall also appear in uncredited parts.

Visually, this feels almost like it could be a Michael Bay film, but without things blowing up every few minutes. Probably due in part to this being produced by Jerry Bruckheimer, who Bay did his first few films with around this period.

Anyway, it's well paced, Smith does well as the "everyman" thrown into exceptional circumstances, and what little action there is, is done well, as you'd expect from Tony Scott. Probably could have done with more Hackman, you don't see him until about an hour into the film, and he does the grizzled ex-government agent thing just about as well as anyone else could.

 

[fake]

Good James Cameron Movies IMO:
Terminator
Terminator 2

 

[Tung Fu ru]

Just gotta point out that just because a piece of media is successful, doesn't necessarily mean it's "good". That's applies to movies, music, shows, books....

I guess I'm kinda agreeing with STK. Cameron is overrated IMO.

 

[Tung Fu ru]

oops, double post

 

[terry.330]

Eh, I like Aliens, T1 & T2 and about 2/3 of the Abyss. None of them are art but they’re awesome in their own ways. Titanic and Avatar on the other hand I consider brainless garbage. Well made technically for sure but trite garbage none the less.

I find Avatar especially egregious. Beyond cliche soulless tech demos for idiots. I cannot believe the second one was as successful as it was.

So I’d agree that at least the second half of Cameron’s career isn’t far off from Snyder and Bay. Spielberg also has a similar career trajectory going from Saving Private Ryan to shit like Ready Player One.

 

[Lastblade]

knock yourself out.


knock yourself out at about the 20 minute mark. Because you basically know the whole movie at that point. Every single thing from then on is going to play out in exactly the cliched, rote way you think it is for the entire remaining 2 hours and 54 minutes, so you might as well get some shuteye. You'll miss one good laugh but avoid 3 or 4 facepalms near the end.

Curious to hear your opinion if you do give it a whirl, though.

Agree 100%, My favorite scene of the movie, the rest can be skipped (but do watch Bill Simmon's rant on Rose):

 

[Taiso]

Buncha slackjawed faggets in here.

You can still come to my neo gathering, though.

 

[fake]

I once went to use a bar's basement bathroom. A blue glow crept out from the border of the door. Upon entering, I was greeted with a life sized mural of Celine Dion portrayed as a Greek goddess, "My Heart Will Go On" playing on loop, sapphire mood lighting swirling, and a replica of the necklace displayed atop an ornate pedestal, encased in glass.

 

[Taiso]

Was it a gay bar?

 

[Lagduf]

The door was a portal to hell.

 

[fake]

Was it a gay bar?

It was in Queens. But I don't think it was created specifically for queens.

 

[Lagduf]

It was in Queens. But I don't think it was created specifically for queens.

LOL

 

[2Heed]

How did you stay long enough to realize "My Heart Will Go On" was played on loop? I can't take more than 5 seconds of it.

 

[fake]

How did you stay long enough to realize "My Heart Will Go On" was played on loop? I can't take more than 5 seconds of it.

It was just the intro that was on loop.

Or I left the stall door open and took a massive poop while staring into the eyes of Celine Dion. You can pick.

 

[StevenK]

It was just the intro that was on loop.

Or I left the stall door open and took a massive poop while staring into the eyes of Celine Dion. You can pick.

Celine Dion does not look well these days.

I'm thinking staring into your shitting eyes hit her like The Ring.

 

[SouthtownKid]

Celine Dion does not look well these days.

"These days"?