More reasons for DashK to hate Apple: Blu Ray to replace Superdrive

[TonK]

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/03/18/bluray/index.php

 

[rarehero]

did you see this on magicbox?

- NEC announced they will release a new controller chip that will work with both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players, which can effectively cut costs of building a player to support both standards. The chip will be released in April 2007.

 

[steve11]

did you see this on magicbox?

- NEC announced they will release a new controller chip that will work with both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players, which can effectively cut costs of building a player to support both standards. The chip will be released in April 2007.

Yeah, but they still have to get it approved to use in players.

I wouldn't call apple (with their how much percent of the PC market) a deciding factor in any format war yet.

 

[TonK]

did you see this on magicbox?

- NEC announced they will release a new controller chip that will work with both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players, which can effectively cut costs of building a player to support both standards. The chip will be released in April 2007.

Actually read it in MacWorld last month but never got around to posting it...

 

[Eldios]

Ugh what bad news. I love Apple but do not want to support Blue-Ray....

 

[BoriquaSNK]

This isn't really news, every computer manufacturer with the exception of Toshiba has pledged blu-ray support. Some are going both ways, but most are going Blu-Ray. Dell and HP are in the Blue Ray camp, and Apple is notorious for dragging the rest of the industry around on a leash when it comes to adopting or dropping new technology, just look at firewire and floppy discs.

While ideally I would probably prefer HD-DVD and its reliability, Blu-Ray really has capacity down pat.

 

[DangerousK]

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/03/18/bluray/index.php

I think this is only because of Microsoft supporting HD DVD.

 

[steve11]

that's not really true

ASUS (major part maker and maker of laptops) who makes the PS3 is shipping HD-DVD laptops and not blu-ray laptops. It's not as one sided as you think, it's fairly evenly split.

As for apple dragging the industry around, nope. Floppy and firewire were good for everything, and apple hardly paved the road.

If they were dragging the industry around we'd have wide spread PPC computers, instead of them getting dragged into intel procs.

I'd wager MS drags the industry around more then apple.

 

[Igniz v2]

well, blu-ray would probably suit computers more seeing as it offers more backup capacity, cause, who watches dvd's on their pc?

i'd rather watch a normal dvd on the couch than an HD movie at the computer desk

 

[steve11]

except for that 1. tape back up is still better, 2. the issue with blu-ray disks breaking or DRE's, and 3. holo storage is on the market now, and should hit 1.6 tb a disk soon.

So no, blu-ray is already screwed for storage, so is HD-DVD for that matter.

 

[RAINBOW PONY]

Dell and HP are in the Blue Ray camp.

are you an uninformed moron?

HP is currently selling laptops and towers with HDDVD drives. Have not seen any bluray stuff from them yet.

stick to the cnn.com forums boy, leave home theatre to the men.

 

[taitai]

are you an uninformed moron?

HP is currently selling laptops and towers with HDDVD drives. Have not seen any bluray stuff from them yet.

stick to the cnn.com forums boy, leave home theatre to the men.

Hi

The irony fairy called.

Hewlett Packard announced that they would sell machines equipped with BluRay drives in addition to HDDVD.

Source: http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/051216a.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

There is alot of nonexclusivity here. HP isn't the only one.

I back BluRay because I *like* the idea of 200Gig multilayer discs.

I'm going to get raped for DRM anyway, I just want to be able to back up my 200 gig drive on 1 disk.

 

[steve11]

Hi

The irony fairy called.

Hewlett Packard announced that they would sell machines equipped with BluRay drives in addition to HDDVD.

Source: http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/051216a.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

There is alot of nonexclusivity here. HP isn't the only one.

I back BluRay because I *like* the idea of 200Gig multilayer discs.

I'm going to get raped for DRM anyway, I just want to be able to back up my 200 gig drive on 1 disk.

In that case you don't want blu-ray, that's the worst, it's like raping your wife with a 20 inch long brillo pad, not good.

go holo, 1.6 tb storage in the next 3 years... can you wait 3 years, yeah you can

 

[Zenimus]

I wonder how this might affect Apple's pro software, specifically DVD Studio Pro. From what I understand, creating a blu-ray disc is a much different process than a normal DVD.

Although, now I wonder if Apple will support both formats, as there is an option in the current version of DVD Studio Pro to create an HD-DVD.

EDIT:

Wait a minute... March 18, 2005 7:50 am ET

This article is from over a year and a half ago! Old news!

 

[kernow]

vaio laptops have had blu ray writers for ages.

I'd prefer 50GB over .. 30 or whatever it is


blu ray FTW

 

[roker]

Wait a minute... March 18, 2005 7:50 am ET

This article is from over a year and a half ago! Old news!

OWNED

 

[BoriquaSNK]

are you an uninformed moron?

HP is currently selling laptops and towers with HDDVD drives. Have not seen any bluray stuff from them yet.

stick to the cnn.com forums boy, leave home theatre to the men.

HP is doing both, but take a look at their workstations next year, they'll be blu ray.

Same thing with Dell. They'll have HD-DVD options but the train has come and gone as far as most computer manufacturers are involved.

Also, we aren't talking about home theater, in case you didn't notice.

I am so glad I'm smarter than you are.

@ steve11: If you don't think Apple doesn't have enormous clout in the PC industry, you've seriously got your head up your ass.

Everything from dot matrix printers to digital cameras to notebook trackpads to the motherfucking mouse were ALL pioneered or invented by Apple. Apple was willing (and in most cases, forced) to take these risks long before anyone else was.

HD cinema displays in a consumer product? Apple in 2000.

Heatsinking individual RAM modules, the Mac Pro.


This is such a stupid argument, I really don't understand why people have such contempt for Apple. Why can't people admit the contributions the company has given to the tech world and move on without taking it personally? Jesus.

 

[ferrarimanf355]

Meh. I'll wait for a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD combo player. :chimp:

 

[Highlander67]

Meh. I'll wait for a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD combo player. :chimp:

I second that.

 

[Mouse_Master]

Everything from dot matrix printers to digital cameras to notebook trackpads to the motherfucking mouse were ALL pioneered or invented by Apple. Apple was willing (and in most cases, forced) to take these risks long before anyone else was.

Dot matrix printers were first on the market in 1970, from DEC and also Centronics I believe. Before Apple.

The first megapixel digital camera was invented by Kodak in the mid 80s, and was released in 1991 by Nikon I think. I think Apple got the crown for the first widely sold camera in early 1994 though.

Doug Engelbart invented and got the patent for the mouse in the 1960s and 70s. Before Apple and Xerox.

Touchpads came out in the late 80s, Psion I think did them first, before Apple. Not really sure who got a patent though.

Apple was always good at trying to apply other's technology. As far as the PC market goes, they do not have much clout at all, they gave it up when they became part of the PC market, I think in the long term this move will hurt them, but that is just my opinion. The STUPIDEST thing in the world was for Apple to advertise that their machines do not get viruses, thats like painting a target on one's back. The iPod is their bread and butter now.

As far as HDDVD and BD for computers, adoption of either is not really going to happen unless a format war ends quickly. It took a LONG time before software companies started putting software on DVD, will take longer before they move to another optical format. BD should win because of capacity, but both formats are too expensive. IT people won't use either recordable. BD recordable drives won't play movies according to Sony. Actually, no BD drive will play a movie on a computer without an HDCP video card right now, pretty lame. Really have no clue how HDDVD drives work in PCs, but I expect they will display out VGA since this is how the X360 is doing it.

And yes, I don't like Apples. Its not the company, it is the users. That is a whole other story in itself though and again involves being in IT......

 

[rarehero]

i may have asked this before, but is either player backwards compatible with dvds?
i'm not planning on getting rid of my 50 some dvd collection.
and that's not even a big collection at that.

 

[SpamYouToDeath]

I'm waiting for the combo LD/CD/VCD/DVD/BR/HDDVD/Holo player.

 

[TonK]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170039021657

 

[Highlander67]

i may have asked this before, but is either player backwards compatible with dvds?
i'm not planning on getting rid of my 50 some dvd collection.
and that's not even a big collection at that.

Yes both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players will play DVDs. Now as for the burners, that's another question.

 

[RAINBOW PONY]

Dot matrix printers were first on the market in 1970, from DEC and also Centronics I believe. Before Apple.

The first megapixel digital camera was invented by Kodak in the mid 80s, and was released in 1991 by Nikon I think. I think Apple got the crown for the first widely sold camera in early 1994 though.

Doug Engelbart invented and got the patent for the mouse in the 1960s and 70s. Before Apple and Xerox.

Touchpads came out in the late 80s, Psion I think did them first, before Apple. Not really sure who got a patent though.

Apple was always good at trying to apply other's technology. As far as the PC market goes, they do not have much clout at all, they gave it up when they became part of the PC market, I think in the long term this move will hurt them, but that is just my opinion. The STUPIDEST thing in the world was for Apple to advertise that their machines do not get viruses, thats like painting a target on one's back. The iPod is their bread and butter now.

As far as HDDVD and BD for computers, adoption of either is not really going to happen unless a format war ends quickly. It took a LONG time before software companies started putting software on DVD, will take longer before they move to another optical format. BD should win because of capacity, but both formats are too expensive. IT people won't use either recordable. BD recordable drives won't play movies according to Sony. Actually, no BD drive will play a movie on a computer without an HDCP video card right now, pretty lame. Really have no clue how HDDVD drives work in PCs, but I expect they will display out VGA since this is how the X360 is doing it.

And yes, I don't like Apples. Its not the company, it is the users. That is a whole other story in itself though and again involves being in IT......

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