List of SF Ansatsuken Based Characters in known mention

neo_X7

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Wes said:
I never said shotokan wasn't a real style of karate. I said it was made up by Capcom USA that it was Ken and Ryu's style.

/beats head against a brickwall

Jesus fucking Christ.
Wes said:
Shotokan was something completely made up by Capcom USA to describe the style that Ken and Ryu use.
My bad but that is the way that you worded it.
 

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Street Fighter lesson #2:

They style Ken and Ryu use is called Ansatsuken. This basically translates into Assassin's fist, or style. This is a style used for killing. However, Ken and Ryu's master Gouken taught them the style without the killing intent, so thus was a somewhat watered down version of it. When it came time to bring this to America, Capcom USA disliked the whole killing aspect of their style and forced them to be labeled as Shotokan disciples, which is just wrong any way you look at it.

However, like I said before, shoto only really stuck because it was a way to generalize the karate outfit fighters in SF. While Dan DID train under Gouken, he was outcasted when Gouken learned of his revenge against Sagat. Dan developed what he had and turned it into "Saikyo" style, which is in almost every one of his win quotes (such as "buy the 10 volume video tapes of Saikyo" or whatever crap in SFA). Sakura is NOT a shoto, because she doesn't wear a karate uniform (which is the only reason people nowadays use the term), and she isn't exactly a disciple of Ansatsuken either, because she plays too differently to be considered one.

J.E.S.U.S.
 

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Wes said:
Sean applies because for one, he's in a karate uniform, and two, he has the staple shoto normals and specials with modified hurricane kick.

It's all not shotokan, like it or not.

...Fireball?

And Allen has no Hurricane Kick move.
 

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Hmkay said:
If you want to go this way, you could say Dan is a Saikyo Ryu fighter, etc... :rolleyes:
Fuck, :make_fac: I meant to put "muay thai" not "mai tai".
 
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DARK ANDY said:
...Fireball?

And Allen has no Hurricane Kick move.

Sean has a fireball via Hadou Burst, his Super Art I (his best super art). I have no idea who Allen is.
 

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Wes said:
Sean has a fireball via Hadou Burst, his Super Art I (his best super art). I have no idea who Allen is.

via Hadou Burst as a selectable Super, not as a Special move.

He doesn't play as a normal "Shoto" under your description, you can't and nobody does play him as a Shoto.

Allen is a SFEX+a Fighter, same as Kairi.
 

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DARK ANDY said:
via Hadou Burst as a selectable Super, not as a Special move.

He doesn't play as a normal "Shoto" under your description, you can't and nobody does play him as a Shoto.

Allen is a SFEX+a Fighter, same as Kairi.

Sean has the staple shoto normals. Let's not forget when SF3 was first made, Sean was the only shoto in the game. Due to loke test reports complaining about not having any old cast members at all, Ken and Ryu were added off of his sprite, so he's still a shoto in every sense of the word. Facts are, in SF3 you HAVE to play him as a shoto and zone with your normals and punish with c.mk -> super art (Ken and Ryu punish the same way).

SFEX is an abomination to the SF name.
 

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Wes said:
Sean has the staple shoto normals. Let's not forget when SF3 was first made, Sean was the only shoto in the game. Due to loke test reports complaining about not having any old cast members at all, Ken and Ryu were added off of his sprite, so he's still a shoto in every sense of the word. Facts are, in SF3 you HAVE to play him as a shoto and zone with your normals and punish with c.mk -> super art (Ken and Ryu punish the same way).

SFEX is an abomination to the SF name.

His s. HP is weird, and his s. MK is crap. /rant

And I rank SFEX as the greatest SF game ever made, with SFA3 behind it, so you probably shouldn't listen to me. I'd probably call it the best 2D Style Fighting Game ever. :smirk:
 

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First off, if Sakura is a shoto, that would mean Hinata is a shoto as well?

Anyways, the old teacher guy ( forgot his name :( ) would definitely qualify...

So 2 more :

Hinata ( only for those people who say Sakura is a shoto )
Old teacher guy

And here's one more :

Twelve

Why you say?

X.C.O.P.Y. into Ken, Ryu, or Gouki...

:p
 

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Also, I'm just waiting for someone to come up and say that Makoto is a shoto because she wears a karate gi... :p
 

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Hmkay said:
If you want to go this way, you could say Dan is a Saikyo Ryu fighter, etc... :rolleyes:
Nope, Saikyo is based on Ansatsuken. Same style shotokan as Ryu, Ken, everyone.
 

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soulthug said:
Nope, Saikyo is based on Ansatsuken. Same style shotokan as Ryu, Ken, everyone.

It's based on it, but it isn't. Meaning he didn't develop any of Ansatsuken fully, and developed it into his own Saikyo style.
 

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Wes said:
It's based on it, but it isn't. Meaning he didn't develop any of Ansatsuken fully, and developed it into his own Saikyo style.
Go Hibiki was shotokan, it was mentioned in the official story. Did he use real Ansatsuken or Saikyo????? HMmm???
 

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soulthug said:
Go Hibiki was shotokan, it was mentioned in the official story. Did he use real Ansatsuken or Saikyo????? HMmm???

This is ridiculous. You're trying to argue with me having half-knowledge of the SF backstory. I refuse to explain everything to somebody who won't bother taking any of it in because they have the attention span of a...14 year old.
 

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Agreed... There's no shotokan stuff in SF, Wes reminded it in this very topic for those who didn't know yet... So saying Go Hibiki was a shoto ("official story" my ass :rolleyes: ) is a joke.
 

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Hmkay said:
Agreed... There's no shotokan stuff in SF, Wes reminded it in this very topic for those who didn't know yet... So saying Go Hibiki was a shoto ("official story" my ass :rolleyes: ) is a joke.
Read the 78 page storyline. Mmmhmmm?
 

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You're so fucking dense. It's amazing how one person can completely ignore facts that have been stated in this thread and go on with their ignorant comments.
 

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Wes said:
You're so fucking dense. It's amazing how one person can completely ignore facts that have been stated in this thread and go on with their ignorant comments.
Yay! Ignorance!

But dan does play incredibly similar to ryu and ken. Sakura doesnt, but dan does.
 

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Lolz, worst thread evar.
Wasn't SF invented by Capcom of Japan and not Capcom USA?
In my day we used the word shoto to describe anyone whose specials are performed using fireball or dragon punch motions. Back then there was charge or shoto only. Under this Sagat would indeed be a shoto. It seems that you guys are taking the story thing way too far, you're actually arguing over a made up story? lolz again.
I mean Gouken isn't even playable. Anatsuken this, Mecha Gouki that, bah its a freaking game. Grow up kids.

Lolz x3.
 

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J0e Musashi said:
Lolz, worst thread evar.
Wasn't SF invented by Capcom of Japan and not Capcom USA?
In my day we used the word shoto to describe anyone whose specials are performed using fireball or dragon punch motions. Back then there was charge or shoto only. Under this Sagat would indeed be a shoto. It seems that you guys are taking the story thing way too far, you're actually arguing over a made up story? lolz again.
I mean Gouken isn't even playable. Anatsuken this, Mecha Gouki that, bah its a freaking game. Grow up kids.

Lolz x3.

I love how you're stupid enough to tell us your version of what shoto is, and then call us kids for talking about it ourselves. It's a freaking thread. Grow up, dickface.
 

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J0e Musashi said:
Lolz, worst thread evar.
Wasn't SF invented by Capcom of Japan and not Capcom USA?
In my day we used the word shoto to describe anyone whose specials are performed using fireball or dragon punch motions. Back then there was charge or shoto only. Under this Sagat would indeed be a shoto. It seems that you guys are taking the story thing way too far, you're actually arguing over a made up story? lolz again.
I mean Gouken isn't even playable. Anatsuken this, Mecha Gouki that, bah its a freaking game. Grow up kids.

Lolz x3.
Wes was the one that went totally Hissy Fit on everyone.

OMG, UR Wrong! i am right, Dan isnt a shoto because i said so!

Sakura isnt a shoto because of the uniform? Bollocks.
 
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