SonGohan said:
This is a lot like guitar arguments I've seen take place on plenty a boards. There's always one guy that's talking about how great such-and-such instructional dvd is, and then there's the pompus old-tymer who's been playing Vai leads since he was 13 that comes in to tell everybody how it's crap and there's harder shit they could be learning instead. I mean, not every match is one big combo exhibition, so what's the point?
It's always good to learn crazy crap that happens once in a blue moon, but where does all this retarded MAX shit really happen most of the time? On a) scrubs, b) training dummy for some shitty video on the internet, or c) Dashk (also refer to option A).
Almost every 2k2 (or hell, any game) tournament vids I've downloaded in the past really has no crazy crap that happens in them. Sure, there's the ones here and there, but for the most part it's not an intregal part of a high level competition match. Just tiers abusing whatever they can.
(btw, I've never questioned you or your playing ethics, so... yeah I dunno)
You need to play arcade infinite if you wanna see this. And hell man, I've just been to the 2nd best thing, super arcade..
People use it all, I dont know how many damn times ive seen it. These Korean players are freaking insane bro.. I stand by what I said. If you dont waste the time learning it all, someone who is godly will.
A great deal of tourney players know each other so well, they rarely need it, but even in those vids, if you fuck up, they unleash hell upon you. They have it, they just dont use it all the time. Especially high level mame players, since they deal with lag and that blows the experience further.
Some of my chars I've upped pretty good, granted you cant tell how I play offline, but I take pride in a few monsters I've worked with. Like ryo, takuma, saisyu, yash, o yash, DAIMON, Iori, CLARK, CHANG, CHOI..
High level poke whorage.., these rules are more reliant on super turbo/2I and other stuff, because those games cater to mind games, throw pressure, etc. This is different in the aspect that you NEED max combos. They are better games then the junk that 2002 has become for competition. *You need parry's in the III series, but im not discounting that*
I can say a thousand times and you wouldnt understand unless you consistently played people in person. I dont mean to be a dick, but its tough to explain some of these things in detail.
The korean players down here use a ton of max shit, so I learned it to. I am one white dude who plays with mostly good korean players and some of these dudes are easily high level.
As far as max's go.. I need it for insurance on my game. Pressure's, mind games etc.. are great. Without insurance you run a high risk. I play with this in mind. Chars like my yama, chris, iori, vanessa all have fluent max's that I can eat tons of damage with. I need this in case the dude I am playing is a great mai, athena, or yuri player. Those three chars IMO are the greatest of the 2002 crew. I dont use any of them either, I find there games the cheapest of any recent KOF, so for however good someones mai escape game is, I need a better choi game. On and on we go.. Its also a chore to keep up with these players, thats why im on Mame, because the players are from all over. I've played high level pakistan players, some chinese bad asses, this asshole jp guy that I can barely even up with, this mexican dude named YTK. YTK is a dude who has been to tourneys in tons of area's. Hes sick good, I respect him because I learned vanessa's inf when he made asses of me and GoenitzLopez.
I've played MANY tourney level players before and its the same deal, one fuck up that really leaves you in a bad position, and they max you to a fucking pulp.
MAX'S are ESSENTIAL for high level play. The vids you see come off without max's because a grip of those players know each other so well that it becomes a poke game most of the time. Also take into account theres alot of better shit. There are some 2001 high level matches they have that OWN any match vids I've seen. They use the hinako inf, the iori inf, these matches are amazing.
I mean hell, alot of the 2002 match vids, I could probably take some of these dudes.
As with any game, there are tons of different levels of high level play. Take the dudes at A-cho for example, they got those max's also.
I dont know whats going through your mind, I've downloaded tons of vids with CRAZY crap in them many times. Like the 3S hugo players who can parry every damn thing. This is the same concept, but in a different style, *being max combos*
Dont take me as some guitar pro or other weird shit, I am telling it like it is. When you get involved with 2002 on live you will see exactly what I mean. I crush people with my max's and they do the same to me because I fucked up like a fool. Take everything you can with you to high level in 2002, you'll need it all.
Dont have weird 2003 invisible rules for 2002, nobody else will have them, and the biggest ego's follow 2002 players.