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I'm still trying to figure out if it is justifiable to bomb a hospital full of children because militants are using them as a "human shield".
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Yes the Palestines and basically half of the arab world.
The US blew up Iraq for no apparent reason not 20 years ago. The UK still has a conflict within its borders. So I think that is what modern western states do.
The only solution for this problem is to see that the living conditions for Palestines outside of Israel are drastically improved so they don't feel the need to turn to people like Hamas. Segregation and apartheid aren't doing anyone favors. You can't win people's hart and souls if you keep pushing their faces in the dirt.
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It’s a war crime. Perpetrating country should be forced to pay reparations.
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War is the violent rejection of status quo.
War is the declaration that this is far from ok.
Peace is the broken soul of a collective oppressed.
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You would prefer another target? A military target? Then name the system!
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All military responses should be measured and rational. The attacks from Hamas have been feckless, but the reactions from Israel have been severe. Like if a baby hits a parent, and the parent feels nothing, and still responds with a crippling haymaker. That’s Israel. Hamas is nothing.
Attacking civilians is intended to make the Palestians fear for their lives and seek escape. A complete Palestinian exodus/extinction would make a 1 state solution for Israel palatable.
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So a proportionate response would be to fire a bunch of dumb rockets into Gaza? Land where they may.
Israel contends at least that they are attempting to avoid civilian casualties and deaths, whether that is true or not could be investigated. But the death of children does not on it's face make a bombing severe or at least not any more so than hiding your military apparatus among civilians would.
War crimes are just the modern militaries complaining about asymmetrical warfare. It is the Redcoats asking the Rebels to stand in the field exchanging volleys. They want to keep things limited to a fight they can win.
Also international crimes are dumb.
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Israel’s contention is based on them showering Palestinians with leaflets warning the people that their homes will be bombed, so GYFO or die.
If they wanted to minimize civilian casualties, they could have a surgical strike. Israel has shown the capability for this, but doesn't with Palestine. That is their design.
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Wrong
We are all human beings on this rock trying to make a functional and progressing society for our species.
International law and treaties are agreed upon by all and are basic rights and responsibilities.
Most of it's like 80 years old, stuff your grandparents parents decided was wrong.
I dunno I view the Magna Carta as the base for the Constitution and bill of rights.
Something all human beings on this planet should be subject to and have as basic rights for the last 800 years.
Your logic doesn't add up. In the instance of the United States/Un it's a hindrance. We've been mostly combating insurgents, terrorists and rebels for the last 30 years. We are supposed to follow the rules but they don't.
Yeah only read the last few posts Evil Wasabi and even Sylvie put it perfectly nothing to add except fuck Israel these days and I consider myself to be a Zionist. How is Bibi still around? I thought him and his party have been voted out like four times now and he's
supposed to be indicted on corruption charges and standing trial right now. Instead he's killing babies and blowing up news buildings.
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in absolute terms, no
but relatively speaking, yes
Wait does that make sense? Maybe not but that never stopped me before
How are you, pal?
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In this thread, I'm purposely taking the absolutist anti-war stance as the moral high ground is easiest to defend.
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Is this sarcasm?
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is it a war or just a conflict?
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No
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Are people dying?
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Except in Nam of course
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Both sides do stupid stuff and are acting irrational...
which is why they need parental guiding..
the whole area should be given back to the Ottoman empire / Turkey. you've never heart of them killig each other all day long during the Ottoman reign.
sometimes freedom is hard to handle...
which is why they need parental guiding..
the whole area should be given back to the Ottoman empire / Turkey. you've never heart of them killig each other all day long during the Ottoman reign.
sometimes freedom is hard to handle...
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I'm pretty sure that we were in 5 wars during the Obama administration.
War is a social construct.
War is a social construct.
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Turkey should be given back to Attaturk, but first we need to bring Attaturk back from the dead, by cloning his DNA, along with the DNA of other famous world leaders, like Lenin, Genghis Khan, Hannibal, and Caesar.
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War is a legal framework, one that the Congress has the sole power to declare.
The mealy-mouthed wording on this page, lol, it should say, "since then, Congress has abdicated it's Constitutional power and defers to the executive."