ISIS Wrecked Paris Today...

[sylvie]

This is true, and sadly these Muslims you speak of are considered hypocrites by their own religion. Here's just a few (of over 100) verses of criticism for peaceful Muslims right in the text itself:

- Qur'an 4:95


- Qur'an 3:167


- Qur'an 47:35



So if a Muslim doesn't believe that these terrorists are doing the right thing, then they are not a true Muslim, they're a hypocrite... straight from the source.

Anyways, I guess I'm just expressing my frustration at these ancient and backward ideals that are still pervading the middle east to this day. They're stuck in a bad religion and it's sad.

"Fighting" as a general term in a religious text =/= specific "Muslim" terrorist attacks. These are semi-ancient war rules and quoting them for either side is just as futile as the other. Stop getting pissed at Islam and just accept that the religion is soured by those speaking in its name, just like every other major religion you can think of.

 

[Dr Shroom]

Are just the terrorists the savages? If so, yes they don't belong anyone, let alone the 'west'. Multiculturalsim has nothing to do with it.

They belong in their middle-eastern shitholes were they can blow themselves up, execute criminals in public and stone women to death for adultry. And multicultrism has very well something to do with you dumb cunt.

 

[sylvie]

i mean yeah technically if you want to consider terrorist activity "cultural". whether it truly is or not i don't know or care but i see where both ya'll are coming from so

 

[MuppeT]

So France ,UK and the US fed the sunny extremists for years..and now all of a sudden they are in war with them?

F4U57

 

[F4U57]

Muppet, don't swing your little finger at me, bitch.

If you've got a problem with what I've said, quote me, don't be a faggot from the sidelines.

Sensitive fucks being sensitive.



In my rant, I said, this falls beyond racial and belief system - what's your problem?

 

[evil wasabi]

Same here, you think you would be safer here in the west. My thoughts go to the victims and their families.

Safest place is Russia.

 

[oliverclaude]

The preventive war concept has been rejected by the public, the extended monitoring as well. Security comes at a price though, so is civil liberty. One can't have it both ways. And now another horrifying tragedy as a consequence of walking in the middle of the road. The problem is, that seeing everything black and white corrupts in the long run. There seemingly is no solution... and it will take eons for pop-culture to pacify middle-eastern aggression and turn it into a indifferent consumer lifestyle.

So if a Muslim doesn't believe that these terrorists are doing the right thing, then they are not a true Muslim...

The problem is that every muslim is entitled to interpret the Qur'an the way he pleases, after passing a rudimentary course of instruction. There is no single authority to decide on these issues and as long, as it stays that way, there can't be a true distinction between faith and abuse, i.e. terrorism.

 

[lithy]

So just to be clear, no one here really cared about the attack in Beirut one day prior. Right?

 

[Late]

They belong in their middle-eastern shitholes were they can blow themselves up, execute criminals in public and stone women to death for adultry. And multicultrism has very well something to do with you dumb cunt.

Aye, Festung Europa.

 

[Late]

Safest place is Russia.

Russia is so crappy that the rent seekers do not want to go there.

 

[ki_atsushi]

The problem is that every muslim is entitled to interpret the Qur'an the way he pleases, after passing a rudimentary course of instruction. There is no single authority to decide on these issues and as long, as it stays that way, there can't be a true distinction between faith and abuse, i.e. terrorism.

I really doubt that, what is the purpose of the mosque then? Why do they gather and what is being taught in there, hmm?

Also, why don't "moderate" Muslims do something about the radicals?

 

[oliverclaude]

I really doubt that, what is the purpose of the mosque then?

What's there to doubt? It's a fact... and the purpose of a mosque is to be a place for collective praying. Nothing more. As many mosques, as there are, as many shades of Qur'an you can count.

 

[ki_atsushi]

What's there to doubt? It's a fact... and the purpose of a mosque is to be a place for collective praying. Nothing more. As many mosques, as there are, as many shades of Qur'an you can count.

They can pray anywhere as long as they are facing Mecca...

If you think for a second that their ideals are not disseminated from those mosques then you're beyond hope.

 

[Rot]

My thoughts go out to all their families...

No matter what religion... race or creed... everyone can say it was a despicable act...

xROTx

PS. It never rains but it pours...

 

[Dr Shroom]

What's there to doubt? It's a fact... and the purpose of a mosque is to be a place for collective praying. Nothing more. As many mosques, as there are, as many shades of Qur'an you can count.

It's also a popular place for radical imams to spread their ideology.

 

[Takumaji]

If you think for a second that their ideals are not disseminated from those mosques then you're beyond hope.

They are, it's just that there are many schools of thought within Islam, it's not a homogenous block of belief and rules. They have higher religious authorities who issued bans against religious terrorism time and again but this just doesn't reach everyone. The Shias don't care what the Sunnys have to say, the Alevis think they're both wrong, and there are many more subgroups with as many opinions and ways to see things as there are grains of sand in the desert.

In other words, there's more to it than it seems.

 

[cat]

For all the arguments it was still a despicable act to purpetrate on fellow human beings, savage and feral.
Sad and a sign of the times we live in that massacre's are reported to us almost weekly on the news.

 

[Mac91]

They belong in their middle-eastern shitholes were they can blow themselves up, execute criminals in public and stone women to death for adultry. And multicultrism has very well something to do with you dumb cunt.

So the equal inclusion of immigrants into 'western' society through state-sponsored language training, cultural classes, minority culture recognition etc. is to blame for terrorism? Multiculturalism is the only thing which can attempt to sort out the immigration which is happening and has happened for years.

Terrorism has nothing to do with it. If you somehow lived in some cloudcuckoo land where there was literally no migration, there would still be terrorism. Shroom, I respect you and I would even go so far to say that I like you, but you are talking out your arse.

 

[famicommander]

Perhaps if the US, UK, France, Russia, et all hadn't been dropping bombs, waging wars, toppling governments, installing puppet governments, and arbitrarily redrawing maps in the Middle East pretty much constantly since the fall of the Ottoman Empire things would be different. The mass migration and terrorism is blowback for awful foreign policy. Doesn't mean it's okay for the response to be violence against civilians but nobody has any right to be surprised. Fuck with a wasp's nest and you get stung.

 

[WoodyXP]

So just to be clear, no one here really cared about the attack in Beirut one day prior. Right?

Nope.

 

[evil wasabi]

So just to be clear, no one here really cared about the attack in Beirut one day prior. Right?

No. Because Beirut has been a known crisis zone.

Caring about attacks in Beirut is like caring when someone pees on the floor of a public restroom. But if you pee on the floor of a place I consider safe and secure, like my bathroom at home, I will be angry, and probably want to fuck you up. And since Paris is a bathroom people used to feel safe in, people are rightfully upset. The number of good clean bathrooms is diminishing now.

And trust me, having lived in the middle east, their bathrooms are fucking terrible and smell like prison.

 

[Rot]

No. Because Beirut has been a known crisis zone.

Caring about attacks in Beirut is like caring when someone pees on the floor of a public restroom. But if you pee on the floor of a place I consider safe and secure, like my bathroom at home, I will be angry, and probably want to fuck you up. And since Paris is a bathroom people feel safe in, people are rightfully upset.

LMAO...

Prob the funniest and most insightful post I've read for a while..

xROTx

PS. Man... i wish i was as drunk as you

 

[StevenK]

Things are getting bad enough now that we might be at the stage of needing an Arnie one-man-army film loosely based on events.

 

[Luke Moerse]

Terribly tragic events for France and the whole world. The world has become a very scary place. I use to scoff at the idea of home schooling children but I honestly think about it for my 2 kids every day.


I can't speak on behalf of every mosque and the activities that go on within them, but at my local one we engage in the consumption of Dunkin Donuts coffee, munchkins, and yes...donuts. Evil, hate-filled donuts.

 

[Marek]

Terribly tragic events for France and the whole world. The world has become a very scary place. I use to scoff at the idea of home schooling children but I honestly think about it for my 2 kids every day.


I can't speak on behalf of every mosque and the activities that go on within them, but at my local one we engage in the consumption of Dunkin Donuts coffee, munchkins, and yes...donuts. Evil, hate-filled donuts.

As a Muslim, how do you regard the violent passages in the quran? Are they seen as antiquated and unapplicable?