Is Austin, TX a good place to relocate? Coming from Cali...

talks2wall

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So myself and several members of my extended family are looking to possibly relocate from California to Austin, TX. I wanted to get opinions from folks who live in Austin, especially those who have moved from California or other states to Austin. We just spent 4 days there with a Realtor looking at homes and getting a feel for the city. I loved the trip and had a blast downtown. People are so much friendlier than San Jose and a ton more women.

Most of the folks looking to move are in their late 30s/early 40s with a kid and another on the way. Two families would be coming from San Jose/Santa Clara, one family from Sacramento and one from LA. I'd love to hear some second opinions about the weather, traffic, mosquitoes, cost of living, quality of life, etc.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Z
 

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dude i was born and raised in austin, i know the town by the back of my hand and let me tell you. there really is nothing wrong with it. even the "ghetto" isn't that bad. it's a pretty safe town in and out, and there's no real flaws i can think of. so move out here.
 

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Supposed to be a fun college town with great benefits of having UT and the capital (mostly UT) --think SXSW. The only drawback might be you're living in the best part of your state (Houston/Dallas are like LA without a good beach and way hotter).

Seriously though, contact CrackerMessiah --he moved from LA to Austin a few years ago for grad school, and could make the best direct comparison.
 

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Kim _Kaphwan said:
and there's no real flaws i can think of.

No real flaws... except that it's in Texas! Muahahaha :D

Actually, I came very close to moving to Dallas not too long ago. My brother wanted to sell his nice house out there, and since housing there is much cheaper, I thought about buying it. In the end though... I didn't want to leave California. It's too hot in Texas.
 

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well, i don't live in austin, but i've spent a lot of time there. it is nice and generally a safe place to live. one of the more attractive qualities austin has to offer is its affordable real estate. it's one of those places that has a lot to offer almost everyone.

to be honest though, if you get the opportunity, you should visit. no one knows your tastes/requirements better than you.
 

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zapatistab said:
You'll miss the weather.


QFT. I went to Austin, TX 4 summers ago. The humidity nearly zapped this tourist dry. Playing pickup ball, I almost died after 15 minutes. You'll definitely miss the weather. And maybe the mountains too. I didn't think of it much til after I came back. I like driving around seeing the large mountains looming in the background. Some things you don't realize how much you value 'em until it's taken away from ya
 

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Haha, everybody wants to bolt from California....

How bad is the Anti-Californian sentiment in Austin?

I heard it runs pretty deep in Utah, Montana and other states Californians are trying to escape too.
 

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norton9478 said:
Haha, everybody wants to bolt from California....

How bad is the Anti-Californian sentiment in Austin?

I heard it runs pretty deep in Utah, Montana and other states Californians are trying to escape too.
it was really bad in the 90's. everyone from california was coming out here because of dell, intel, samsung, and other big name tech companies building plants out here. and we the native austinites had to deal with their shitty driving and shitty attitudes. but it's slowed down now and there aren't as many of em around these days.
 

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Thanks for all the feedback so far, please keep it coming. We already took a trip out there last week and got a good feel for what to expect. We realize that the weather will be different, probably the biggest sacrifice if we go out there. I was raised in Illinois so a few months of hot and humid weather won't phase me. Plus I like warmer weather in general.

norton9478 said:
Haha, everybody wants to bolt from California....

How bad is the Anti-Californian sentiment in Austin?

I heard it runs pretty deep in Utah, Montana and other states Californians are trying to escape too.
I would hardly call it bolting from California. It's just one of many options we have to centralize the family and improve our lives. I'm also looking into San Diego as well or still live in San Jose but work in San Fran.

I only ran into one woman in Austin who was less than pleasant because I was from out of state, not specifically because I'm from California. She was a nutcase with major issues on several topics though and kept going on and on about getting the "old" Austin back. Even her friend was calling her silly and overly sensitive/conservative. Otherwise people were very nice and didn't care at all that we were from California. I thought my friend from LA would get some flack, but nah. Actually there was way more anti-California sentiment in Milwaukee when I went there on a business trip. A few of us at work were offered relocation packages and the locals weren't typically happy with the idea of someone from California moving in next door.
 

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talks2wall said:
Thanks for all the feedback so far, please keep it coming. We already took a trip out there last week and got a good feel for what to expect. We realize that the weather will be different, probably the biggest sacrifice if we go out there. I was raised in Illinois so a few months of hot and humid weather won't phase me. Plus I like warmer weather in general.


I would hardly call it bolting from California. It's just one of many options we have to centralize the family and improve our lives. I'm also looking into San Diego as well or still live in San Jose but work in San Fran.

I only ran into one woman in Austin who was less than pleasant because I was from out of state, not specifically because I'm from California. She was a nutcase with major issues on several topics though and kept going on and on about getting the "old" Austin back. Even her friend was calling her silly and overly sensitive/conservative. Otherwise people were very nice and didn't care at all that we were from California. I thought my friend from LA would get some flack, but nah. Actually there was way more anti-California sentiment in Milwaukee when I went there on a business trip. A few of us at work were offered relocation packages and the locals weren't typically happy with the idea of someone from California moving in next door.

She probably wasn't necessarily worried about white Californians, but rather brown Californians. :)

My entire family wanted to migrate to El Paso, but I don't think its a very good idea. Only advantage is that we'll be closer to our Motherland.
 

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We have a shitload of former Cali residents flooding into metro Atlanta. In fact, all 3 of my co-workers I'm working with today moved here from Cali in the last 3 years.
 

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Piratero said:
She probably wasn't necessarily worried about white Californians, but rather brown Californians. :)

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Nah, it is a more generalized xenophobia, People are afraid that the calis will drive up home prices and bring thier degraded culture with them...
 

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Most Californians relocate because of their jobs. Californians who relocate becasue of housing, usually move out of the city and commute.

The funniest thing I hear the most, is Californians think the rest of the U.S. is like California. When they move out of state they get a culture shock. Since Texas is close to the Mexican border, you will feel like you are in San Jose at times. :lolz:
 

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norton9478 said:
Nah, it is a more generalized xenophobia, People are afraid that the calis will drive up home prices and bring thier degraded culture with them...

Yeah, I know. I was only attempting to link it with "illegal" (undocumented) immigration. Californians are going to be doing the jobs the "Austians" don't want to do.
 

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Supposed to be a fun college town with great benefits of having UT and the capital (mostly UT) --think SXSW. The only drawback might be you're living in the best part of your state (Houston/Dallas are like LA without a good beach and way hotter).

Seriously though, contact CrackerMessiah --he moved from LA to Austin a few years ago for grad school, and could make the best direct comparison.

Aside from "a few years ago" that should read "one year ago," that comparison is almost spot-on. Almost.

Austin TX is very much like Santa Monica was about 20 years ago: friendly, (relatively) affordable, coming out of a bohemian culture that strikes me as actively trying to preserve it's artistic and carefree soul. There's an almost militant adherance to the local mantra "Keep Austin Weird," which in simpler language means 'shop at small businesses to keep them alive,' ("Weird" in this case perhaps meaning that it's rather awkward to have more small businesses than larger ones.) and the majority of people that I've met here love it. I'm partisan to their group.

The weather here is requisite Texan weather. What this means for Californians is that there are things are things called 'seasons' in which the predominate temperature of a given time period line up with certain month invervals in the year, i.e it gets colder in a time called 'winter,' which usually takes place from mid-December to mid-February. Having lived in Santa Monica, this concept was mindblowing. Also, the humidity here is damn high, and will accent whatever the weather condition is by making it feel more of what it is. Low temperature + humidity = mad cold weather. It's like MSG for the atmosphere. High 90s/low 100s are the norm of the summer (yet this one was really rainy for some reason), and we had an ice storm this past January - had a full centimeter coat of ice on my car!

People here are FAAAAAAAAAR more friendlier than they are in Southern California. Whereas asking a stranger for more information than "What time is it?" indicated mental illness to your requisite LA-native, people here actually give much more of a damn than you'd expect. When I first arrived and went to a local large grocery store, I was asked "How are you?" in the most sincerest voice coming from minimum-wage labor. It was shocking. After telling a 7-Eleven clerk yesterday that my day was so-so, we proceeded to have a short conversation about housing leads. And there were 2 two other people in line, patiently listening to every word rather than getting extremely angry. To give you an idea of how pervasive this friendliness is: when I returned to LA for the summer, I knew I was in Los Angeles by looking at the face of the first person I saw when I was getting off of the plane: defeated and drained. Very little of that here.

Another perk of the land: if you've got a 35K a year job that you stick with for 10 years, you can actually own a home - a delusion in Southern California. A 3-bedroom house in Hyde Park - a central older area - will run you, I'm told, around $280,000. I would have to sell my soul and those of my unborn children (plural is intentional ) to a bank in order to own the bathroom of a home in Santa Monica. This is even truer of the rest of the state.

But there are some downsides too.

Bring your mosquito repellant. The side effect of all the beautiful green vegitation and space between buildings and large commercial developments is that insects and other 'pest' animals have a place to breed, rather than relocate from the concrete jungles of LA.

Also, Interstate 35 serves as a de-facto split between the affluent (West) and not affluent (East). This split also lends to old racial tensions that have survived in some forms to this day. It's a rather horrible ethnic and class split, and puts a rather distant-yet-tangible black eye on what is otherwise a nice place.

Other than those last two deals, Austin is a great place. You may miss the weather, but if you may not miss much else. Oh- and there's no such thing as a crappy hamburger here from a non-fast food place.
 

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austin is great.
i go there about 2-4 times a month just for music.
but some people i know would have you believe it's only hippies and college students.
 
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