How many of you are mentally ill?

[LWK]

Fact is, no one gives a shit.

And if it's your bread n butter delivery for trying nail chicks, then you're a pansy homo. There's other ways to bag dumpy girls, like pretending to be a democrat and caring about what Obama does.

Fuckin keep personal shit to yourself and your therapist.

You're just mad I exposed your neo-gumby account.
seriously though, I know at some point I pee'd in your cereal, just lemme know at which point I did.


Asmoday,
I'm not really upset, I get taken to seriously a lot, but if you read what I said and contrast it to what you usually hear from these medication truthers, you'll see what I mean.
I feel its good to at least explain in detail what it is these people deal with, so that people realize they are wrong. Its not even about being pc, I'm just explaining the reality I experience in the defense of others who have to hear that garbage from people on a constant basis.

 

[NGT]

NGT, I hate to break it to you, but problems like depression are often caused by neuro-chemical imbalances.

True.

It's also often brought on by not being popular, not having a girlfriend, or any friends, not liking where you are in life, stress, thinking regular life is too hard, getting fired, getting a divorce, having a loved one pass, getting physically injured, and a ton of other things that shouldn't require pills. It's like every time someone is in a rut they "went through a period of depression".

 

[Kid Aphex]

I failed to see darwinism in the bailouts. All those unions investing pension plans should have been fucked in the ass with the wrong end of a tennis racket. I don't give a fuck if it would have destroyed the lives of teachers and firemen and dildos. But that's just one example. Competition in business never really means better business or evolution. Apple is a better business than Dell, with a much better revenue to employee ratio. But that's not evolution, it's a fuckin ipod selling itself. If dell made the ipod it would filthy rich too, with a massive horde of idiots jizzing to pictures of Michael Dell like he was Steve Skeletor Jobs. And besides, competition only happens on a low level in business. When it gets too big the antitrust lawyers step in and put an end to "evolution."

of course you don't see darwinism in the bailouts---the idea of free markets is a joke.
the stock market has been a way for wealthy individuals to aggregate their wealth and power and drain the resources/wealth of a country.

people who think that, with the founding of america, we rid ourselves of monarchs...? wake up. corporations have been given more rights than kings. they rule us as aggregates of wealth and power divided and controlled in a top down neo-caste system whose functionality is tempered by its structure.

i only spoke of darwinism to imply that we're indoctrinated into a system of social beliefs that separates us, rather than brings us together. "six billion people trying to make themselves happy by standing on the heads of each other and kicking each other's teeth in" to paraquote mckenna. bloo blah blahoh

 

[Kid Aphex]

There's nothing positive about illusions nor delusions.

Responding to cynicism as if it were hostility and then pumping your gospel as positive... Very Branch Davidian.

we just come from separate world views. i put little faith in this reality...i see most of it as an illusion. at times, this makes the way people act feel strange to me.

 

[LWK]

True.

It's also often brought on by not being popular, not having a girlfriend, or any friends, not liking where you are in life, stress, thinking regular life is too hard, getting fired, getting a divorce, having a loved one pass, getting physically injured, and a ton of other things that shouldn't require pills. It's like every time someone is in a rut they "went through a period of depression".

A lot of it misrepresented also.

I suffered from depression a few times, and I'd agree about the chemical component, because it often times will hit people completely for no reason, that's how it hit me anyways. That explanation is exactly the issue about what a ton of people believe when it comes to these things. Sure you can get depressed about break ups and other life situations, but that subsides. A lot of people don't even realize some people have constant awful depression.

Life triggers are beside the point if any amount of population has constant depression that hits for no reason. I mean just look at Seasonal affective disorder.

of course you don't see darwinism in the bailouts---the idea of free markets is a joke.
the stock market has been a way for wealthy individuals to aggregate their wealth and power and drain the resources/wealth of a country.

Exactly the problem.

A great deal of people putting up with this is small time slow acceptance of it, and it doesn't help that people practice Keynesian economics to a stupid level here, so these rich corps can literally take over god damn everything with there influence while idiot americans ride the debt slavery train. I had a professor who teached last week as a sub for my other one, and he was talking about how hes 160,000$ in debt on student loans alone. The shitty thing is the long term debt increase obviously means a interest that cannot be paid off, and our nationwide debt seems nearly impossible to ever get out of. We'll see..

Bailouts is the worst thing that ever happened. Those banks should have failed and went into closure.

 

[SouthtownKid]

the things i'm espousing are generally positive things. honestly, i can only assume you're lashing out because the positivity is totally alien to you, and as such, scares you in some weird way.

No, I just lived through that age (nearly a decade earlier than your 26, for what it's worth) and came out the other side. I understand that other people will do what they want to do (most often following the path of least resistance), not what you'd like them to do... or what you'd like them to want to do.

This great change you think is coming relies completely on humankind experiencing an epiphany that frankly, the vast majority are incapable of.


It's not about dismissing optimism; it's about observing reality. REAL reality, which surrounds us. It's about understanding and accepting that all people are individuals, subject to their individual short-sighted, petty, selfish desires and goals, and not some unified force you can move in a specific direction to accomplish anything. Certainly not within your limited time on Earth.

 

[evil wasabi]

You're just mad I exposed your neo-gumby account.
seriously though, I know at some point I pee'd in your cereal, just lemme know at which point I did.

haha. I'm not neogumby, but you have probably passed neogumby in real life and never knew it.

As for the cereal, I see your posts about being OCD as cheap and whorish. That's all. These are things that matter to a 13 year old girl.

Be a fucking man.

on the internet.

 

[Kid Aphex]

It's not about dismissing optimism; it's about observing reality. REAL reality, which surrounds us. It's about understanding and accepting that all people are individuals, subject to their individual short-sighted, petty, selfish desires and goals, and not some unified force you can move in a specific direction to accomplish anything. Certainly not within your limited time on Earth.

i understand the perspective you're coming from, and respectively disagree with the limiting nature of it.

 

[Asmoday]

True.

It's also often brought on by not being popular, not having a girlfriend, or any friends, not liking where you are in life, stress, thinking regular life is too hard, getting fired, getting a divorce, having a loved one pass, getting physically injured, and a ton of other things that shouldn't require pills. It's like every time someone is in a rut they "went through a period of depression".

Now you are talking about the differences in situational depression versus clinical depression.

 

[SouthtownKid]

i understand the perspective you're coming from, and respectively disagree with the limiting nature of it.

Cool, let's check back in 40 years down the line and see where humanity stands. I wish you and your band of Merry Men all the luck in the universe, but recommend you don't get your hopes up too high.

 

[LWK]

haha. I'm not neogumby, but you have probably passed neogumby in real life and never knew it.

As for the cereal, I see your posts about being OCD as cheap and whorish. That's all. These are things that matter to a 13 year old girl.

Be a fucking man.

on the internet.

I guess I'm cheap and whorish then. hehe.

Its more just dropping info when I read stuff I know to be untrue.

Last neogumby I passed was after eating a jar of pickles.

btw all still involved: http://www.youtube.com/user/DOCTOROFMINDMD

pretty good info and a good laugh here and there.

 

[BIG BEAR]

What's mentally well? vegetative state?
BB

 

[NGT]

Now you are talking about the differences in situational depression versus clinical depression.

Problem is, people often act like the first one is the second one and get meds for it, play the "depressed card" (if I can call it that), and use it as some sort of free excuse to sit around on their ass while everyone else in the world rolls on. If you have something in your brain that causes you to get depressed beyond anyone else's comprehension but your own with no notice....I can't really tell you anything.

The rest of ya, suck it up.

 

[Asmoday]

Problem is, people often act like the first one is the second one and get meds for it, play the "depressed card" (if I can call it that), and use it as some sort of free excuse to sit around on their ass while everyone else in the world rolls on. If you have something in your brain that causes you to get depressed beyond anyone else's comprehension but your own with no notice....I can't really tell you anything.

The rest of ya, suck it up.

Oh I follow you on this line of thinking to some degree. The problem is that too many people who really need treatment go without it because they cannot afford it while too many rich trophy wives run off to the doctor for xanax scripts because they can't stand the lives they had to accept in order to marry for money. This sort of patient creates a capatilistic win/win/win scenario. The women find a legal way to get high and forget they are in a loveless relationship for long enough to attain half their husband's income, the doctor has a revolving door patient netting his practice several hundred dollars a month and the drug company gets an addict for life. Of course there is the other end of the spectrum which ends up living off the state because they learned a crappy 1 bedroom apartment for free is somehow better than a house you have to earn. However, to just lump anyone who has a problem in with one of these 2 groups alienates those who have a legit issue and they feel very much alone already.

Also, a tough love approach of telling someone to get over it really doesn't do the person any favors. At minimum I think anyone that deals with this sort of thing should probably see a psychologist. The people you speak of who act as though the sky is falling when they just have troubles in the now would benefit by having someone to talk to about their issues and those who have a chemical imbalance could get the treatment they need by referal from there as well.

The problem with seeking help is its too damned expensive to get that treatment if you don't have insurance and, as I can attest to from personal experience, you won't get far into those sorts of treatments before your insurance company is looking to drop you or your rates skyrocket if you have an individual plan. Without getting into too many specifics my monthly overhead back then (I was about 21-22) was $800. After my insurance company decided I had been costing them too much my insurance plus meds (which were no longer covered by the plan) and doctor's fees (which had their co-pay removed) were going to cost just over $1000 per month. The treatment for depression was going to more than double my monthly bills. Well, I am not a dot com millionaire and I wasn't born with a silver spoon so I had to let it go and today I am very much worse off for it. And this is one of the greatest challenges to people who are working class that need help. Its just too fucking expensive. I mean, $1000 per month, that is 2/3 of a house payment for a $150k home and those numbers were from almost a decade ago. I can only imagine how much health insurance costs now.

 

[Yue]

Oh....well, my problem of being so mean to men has something to do that happened a long while back. I don't wanna go into detail otherwise I'll feel sick.

Anyway, I'm getting better .

I think another problem would have to be my self esteem, I don't feel so great about myself despite having a lot of what people would consider good things. Probably has to do with the first thing I mentioned.

I appreciate what I have though, wouldn't want less, that's for sure.

 

[BigTinz]

Oh....well, my problem of being so mean to men has something to do that happened a long while back. I don't wanna go into detail otherwise I'll feel sick.

Anyway, I'm getting better .

I think another problem would have to be my self esteem, I don't feel so great about myself despite having a lot of what people would consider good things. Probably has to do with the first thing I mentioned.

I appreciate what I have though, wouldn't want less, that's for sure.

Show me on this doll where he touched you....

 

[Yue]

Show me on this doll where he touched you....

It's very vague, and I don't wanna remember clearly. I was that little......

 

[BigTinz]

It's very vague, and I don't wanna remember clearly. I was that little......

Why must you ruin my troll?

 

[Late]

Personally, I see narcissism at its very height in our society right now.

This is very true. Everyone is the CEO of their own life, and identity is lost and replaced with a consumerist monoculture, all the oblivion cases running like lemmings off a cliff.

Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other. Ignorance of dharma will occur. People will have thoughts of murder for no justification and they will see nothing wrong with that mind-set. Lust will be viewed as being socially acceptable, and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life, with the result that even 13 to 16-year old girls will get pregnant. Sin will increase exponentially, whilst virtue will fade and cease to flourish. People will take vows only to break them soon after. People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs. Men will find their jobs stressful and will go to retreats to escape their work. Gurus will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them. Their teachings will be insulted and followers of Kama will wrest control of the mind from all human beings.

^While I'm not a spiritual person, this is quite astute considering it was written thousands of years ago.

I agree with wasabi, I think that my base negativity is a spinoff of LSD use, a negative mental wellspring that just goes off and requires real effort to shut down. Sometimes I just need to tell myself to shut the fuck up. I also find it kind of funny that I need to mentally sabotage myself in this way.

 

[ki_atsushi]

Why must you ruin my troll?

Hey fuckface, why don't you go troll the war room?

 

[pepharytheworm]

As a child to my early teen years I was diagonsed with schizophrenia. I use to think it ment that you had multiple personalities, but my doctor told me I was diagonsed because I thought people were saying things they weren't or that things were directed towards me but not. I didn't think I was but my mom made me take the medication at the time, Respirdol. All it did was make me tired and gain a lot of weight. When I stated taking it and I forgot to take it I felt really weird and made me worse then before I even took the medication.

Once in 7th grade I forgot to take my medication and thought the school was on fire and kept pulling the fire alarm five times in one day. I would have been expelled but the principal said if I would be hospitalized he would let me finish. They sent me all my school work to the hospital. It was called Brightmore. I was there for two months, and it was one of the weirdest experiences of my life.

I think I grew out of it or never had it to begin with because I feel fine and no ones every told me I was doing anything recently strange.

 

[abasuto]

Schizophrenia has no cure and never goes away, which is why most doctors are very, very careful and hesitant before they write that down on a chart as a person's diagnosis.

Once that's on your charts, it's on for life (extremely hard to get removed) and is one of the worst conditions you can have on your medical charts. ie..only 10% of people with diagnosed schizophrenia will ever have a job. Partly because some are unable to work and partly because the vast majority of jobs would never dare hire someone if they saw that on their medical record, even if the person had it under control enough to be a good employee.

If your medical records do have schizophrenia listed I'd look into getting it removed (if it's wrongly diagnosed for you), a process that can be hard. You'd have to prove that the doctor who said you did was wrong, since even if the symptoms stop for peroids of time, they can return at any point.

(my fiance is a research psychologist and saw this thread over my shoulder, above was mostly me summing up her reply about it)

On topic :

As a general rule, it's only a "disorder" if it's interfers with your life somehow, so I don't have any disorders or illnesses. I've probably got what some would label as issues, but they don't interfer with my life any.

My fiance did say I do however display schadenfreude to an extreme degree. More so than any other person she's ever personally seen in her life. It's not a disorder, since hey, it makes me happy, but others are prone to see it as a major personality disorder.

 

[neobuyer]

Was it some magnet of pathos which made me read this forum again tonight? I wonder?

Because I know almost every answer to these questions now.

I will fess up to grand mal high-functioning AD(h)D- and the 'too many aptitudes' problem. It is not a weakness, handicap or disadvantage- not for the ones like us. It is a problem for 'them'- they who are the sheeply and unlovely average.

Being super-smart and also an artistic chameleon has it's advantages, y'know.

 

[smokehouse]

just to reinforce the point. ADD has biological causes, its not merely behavioral. The drugs taken are not sedatives, but actually stimulants, so the brain will actually feel stimulated, because people with ADD have a very hard time feeling sensory stimulation.

However, I do feel ADD is over-diagnosed and is occasionally substituted for the real disorder...
lousy parents.

Bingo...

The stuff I was on was definitely a stimulant...I knew when it was coming on because I got the "tingling hair" speed feeling...I kind of miss that...lost some weight when I was on it as well.

 

[norton9478]

Other than the Military, what jobs check your medical records?