Help a RE4 addict out!!

[Takumaji]

Last night my Cube ate the contents of one of my memory cards with all my RE4 saves on it, now all my records are gone. I had six complete runs so far and had an (IMO) almost perfect equipment except for the hand cannon, I was THAT close to unlocking it.... damn...

I'm not sure what happened with the memcard, I put it Super Smash Bros. Melee and played it for about five minutes, then I resetted the machine and put in RE4, afterwards it said "memcard has to be formatted" or something. I tested it with the builtin memcard manager, but it also said "needs to be formatted", so I guess I'm screwed (and my saves too).

Is there a way to repair the contents of a memcard? I guess not, so getting another RE4 save (US version) seems to be the way to go.

I've also started a similar thread in International, but got no helpful replies so far, seems that most ppl here have the uncut Euro or Japanese version but they're not compatible to the US one (tried it, didn't work).

I wouldn't mind doing another run to unlock Mercenaries and Ada again, but I can't bring myself to do several runs to max out all weapons again and buy the ultd. launcher... took me two goes alone to get it.

Any ideas what to do?

 

[genjiglove]

Cheat device perhaps? Like an Action Replay or something.

 

[roker]

the different regions may have had something to do with it

I remember keeping a seperate memory card for my JPN Soul Calibur 2

 

[Mushiki]

Some GameCube games like to load/store data on the MemCards like mad, and this tends to lead to data corruption. Same happened to me when playing Super Smash Bros Melee a couple of months ago - had to reformat.

 

[Amano Jacu]

I think there are some memory cards to where you can transfer data from the PC. Doing so you could download a saved game from the internet that has all you want.

 

[roker]

Cheat device perhaps? Like an Action Replay or something.

use a cheat device to bring you back up to speed

that may help

 

[kernow]

is it an official memcard ?

send it back maybe before you start it all again

and multi region gaming on one card aint good, although you werent doing that of course


you could always put RE4 down for a couple months and play killer7 "bois"

 

[Amano Jacu]

I have never had any problem mixing USA and PAL gamesaves in my cube mem card, however I heard you need to have a specifically-formatted one for Japanese games. I don't have Smash Bros Melee though.
Anyway it is wise to have 2 cards to back-up your most important saves from time to time, you know, even Nintendo official hardware fails from time to time...

By the way, I have a US gamesave with the handcannon, typewriter, unlimited launcher, etc, I think there are 3 or 4 runs in normal and 1 in pro. If everything else fails I have no problem if you send me your card, or I can send you my spare one, to copy my save on it.

 

[kernow]

*doesnt mention he has 2 memcard 251's, 4 59's and 1 unofficial, also gave another official one away*


you know, the cube memcards are actually 5 blocks bigger than they say, 256,64,1024, but the extra blocks are used for allocation tables and backups of such tables etc

*yawn*

 

[Takumaji]

Thanks for the help so far.

Yeah, it's an original Nintendo memcard. I've decided to buy another one and give the current one back for checking/exchange, just to make sure.

Amano, thanks for your offer, I'll send you a PM about it.

kernow, Killer 7 for GC PAL has just been released over here, do you know if it supports 60Hz? If so, I'll probably pick it up... tried the PS2 version and liked it a lot.

Man, my Cube game library is too damn small, currently I only have RE4 and SSBM. I wanted to buy Zelda - Wind Waker and Four Swords, but given that I pretty much suck at RPGs, I'll probably try it first before buying.

 

[Fran]

sorry to hear about your problems,takumaji

funnily enough,i started playing BH 4 again after a 3 months hiatus

i want to beat the game in 2 hours or less

fucks knows why,but i deleted my original saves so i am now completing the damn thing again for like the 16th time to gather enough cash for the infinite launcher

and while we're on the subject

i have the videos of this japanese guy who can beat it in 1 h 50 or so

load game of course

d'you know the "las plagas" mines where the ganados are digging and there's the chainsaw guy and the big boulder blocking the way?

alright,in the videos of the japanese player ( he's using the japanese version of the game,of course ) he doesn't have to obtain the dynamite to get rid of the boulder

he simply uses the infinite launcher

that saves him about 2 minutes or so,i guess

i have the us version of the game and after 328728873027802111 tries i still can't destroy the boulder with the rocket launcher

i have asked my friends here if with their lame euro resident evil 4 copies they can blow it up without the dynamite and they said : yes

so is it really possible that the US version is the only one where you can't skip that damn dynamite bit?

if would be uber cool to save those 2 minutes and lower my final time...

 

[kernow]

yep kiler7 supports 60

uhm, I don't know if it'll be subject to the usual censorship over there though

 

[Takumaji]

Destroying the bolder with the launcher... cool idea. Would suck if that really does not work in the US version - maybe you have to use Ada's special launcher for that, it seems to be more powerful than the normal one.

I also was thinking about how to save time on my speed runs, but I can't see myself completing the entire game in less than three and a half hours (my last run time). Problems here are Krauser (boss fight), the 5-3 scorpio-like boss and some parts of the castle (like the lava room), plus various other locations (Salazar's garden maze...). It's not that these parts would be too difficult, I just feel that I could save a lot of time there with a more clever strategy.

1:50h... wow, that's amazing. Where can I download the vids?

Oh and another thing, when doing speed-runs, do you try to snipe the Regeneradores using the infrared scope or do you simple blow them up with the launcher or magnum? I find the Regeneradores battles very time-consuming (even tho I love their design, they look really frightening, specially the spiked ones).

Ah well... when my saves are restored, I will try to do a knife-only run (except for the bosses perhaps)...

kernow, just checked out my fave game store, they have Killer 7 PAL on stock, it has an M rating (18+), but that doesn't mean much I guess because even the bastardized RE4 Euro verison without the mini games was 18+. Damn friggin' censorship.

 

[Darren870]

You can't mix USA game saves and JPN game saves on a MEM card. The JPN tend to delete the USA ones. Happened with my friend had 100+ hours on some US RPG then his brother played JPN Ikaruga.

All gone.

 

[Amano Jacu]

Wow, I'm surprised Fran has the US version, I thought he had the Japanese one...

Oh and another thing, when doing speed-runs, do you try to snipe the Regeneradores using the infrared scope or do you simple blow them up with the launcher or magnum? I find the Regeneradores battles very time-consuming (even tho I love their design, they look really frightening, specially the spiked ones)

Well, if you have the handcannon maxed out just one (maybe 2) shots of it kill them. Possibly the typewriter can clean them fast too.

My last playthrough the game in normal was a "speedrun attempt" and it finished at 4 hours...

Well, as I said if you can't find anything else closer we can try to have my save put into your memory.

 

[Fran]

Wow, I'm surprised Fran has the US version, I thought he had the Japanese one...



Well, if you have the handcannon maxed out just one (maybe 2) shots of it kill them. Possibly the typewriter can clean them fast too.

My last playthrough the game in normal was a "speedrun attempt" and it finished at 4 hours...

Well, as I said if you can't find anything else closer we can try to have my save put into your memory.

i have all the japanese bio hazard games,but a friend here got the us version and because we wanted to read all the diaries,memos,etc

we played the american game together and then he lent me the game because he doesnt give a crap about speed runs,unlocking stuff,etc

that was back in january so it's like game's officially mine now

could never bother getting the hand cannon but for a speed run all you really need is the chicago tw

believe it or not the infinite launcher is not so necessary

maybe only twice,but it's slow as hell and you lose time if you use it too much

a couple flash grenades to kill ganados quickly

6 or so first aid sprays

the special rocket launcher you get from ada

that's because you can kill saddler with the normal launcher and keep the special one for the next round

so that soon as you step off the elevator you can kill saddler in 3 seconds and save at least 2 or 3 minutes

 

[kernow]

I've never got excited by speed runs, by that time I've either moved on to something else because I'm obviously needing to, or playing the game again

first time I played re4 - 22 hours

second time I played re4 - 13 hours because I was just taking in all the jaw dropping scenery, to run through is a waate, I can't help but stand and stare every time I play.. "look at that polygonal tree. etc"

 

[Takumaji]

It took me 34 hrs to beat the game for the first time... I must have explored every damn pixel in it. I moved very sneakily at first and tried to peak around every corner to be on the safe side. I also journeyed back and forth between chapters to buy goods from merchants and used every damn typewriter to save my progress... after I I thought I had made it through Salazar's castle, my attention loosened a bit because I was well stocked with upgraded weapons and other goodies, but then I stupidly wasted most of it on the sub-boss that has to be frozen with liquid nitrogen.... here I definitely prefer the launcher over any other weapon, one shot and he's dead.

My 2nd run took me 10 hrs, my 3rd one 8, etc... now I'm down to about 4 hrs, with 3,5 hrs as my personal record. The infinite launcher helped me a lot, specially during boss fights except against Krauser who is too quick for it.

Fran, many ppl already told me that the Chicago Typewriter would be enough for speed runs, but I concentrated on beating Mercenaries first, which was/is slightly frustrating IMO. I always have troubles racking up good scores with Hunk, his arsenal seems to be so limited. Any tips?

 

[Cnidarian]

on a US ver., I tried to blow away the boulder with the infinite launcher, but it never worked.

I also tried to free Ashley from the wall using the launcher like in the Jpn. player's replay, but failed

1:50h... wow, that's amazing. Where can I download the vids?

at the bottom of the page, there are two sets:
new game T.A. [1 : 58' 10"]
load game T.A. [1 : 49' 25"]

http://homepage3.nifty.com/shin3/capcom/bio4.htm

there are also some replays of The Mercenaries, which really helped me to understand the strategy for stage 2..

 

[Takumaji]

on a US ver., I tried to blow away the boulder with the infinite launcher, but it never worked.

I also tried to free Ashley from the wall using the launcher like in the Jpn. player's replay, but failed



at the bottom of the page, there are two sets:
new game T.A. [1 : 58' 10"]
load game T.A. [1 : 49' 25"]

http://homepage3.nifty.com/shin3/capcom/bio4.htm

there are also some replays of The Mercenaries, which really helped me to understand the strategy for stage 2..

Thanks for the link.

Why would one want to use the launcher to free Ashley anyway, except if he has no sniper rifle in his inventory?

Are there more differences between the JPN/Euro and the US version? The JPN one was the one I wanted to buy first but then a friend of mine talked me into buying a RE4 GC pack with the butchered Euro version w/o the mini games, afterwards I bought the US version and really thought it would be the same as the JPN one... that's kinda annoying if you ask me.

 

[Amano Jacu]

Why would one want to use the launcher to free Ashley anyway, except if he has no sniper rifle in his inventory?

I guess you can save some seconds if Ashley isn't killed by the missile

 

[Cnidarian]

Why would one want to use the launcher to free Ashley anyway, except if he has no sniper rifle in his inventory?

I don't know, but its a fairly quick (and risky) way to free Ashley in one shot.
I prefer to use the C.typewriter myself.

Are there more differences between the JPN/Euro and the US version?

one thing I've noticed was that in the Jpn. version of The Mercenaries, in Stage 1, sometimes the Ganado's heads don't explode...

the sound effect for it is still there, but when you do a grab-escape or headshot, it doesn't disappear (except for Plagas).

in the US version there are no problems with the decapitation.

also the body count in The Mercs is called "Combo" in Jpn. and "In a Row" in Eng.

there could possibly be more differences, but I haven't spotted them yet.

 

[kernow]

the JPN version is censored too, the euro pal version (non german) is in my opinion the best, as its not censored one bit, and has all the minigames, AND easy mode (which I know is lame but it sure helps my non gaming friends appreciate the game more with a shotgun to start off with)

the US version is basically the same, uncensored and all, but no easy mode, and that boulder I guess.

(Killer7 is fantastic, everyone should own it and stroke it along with this title as a shrine to capcom 2004/5)

 

[Takumaji]

the JPN version is censored too, the euro pal version (non german) is in my opinion the best, as its not censored one bit, and has all the minigames, AND easy mode (which I know is lame but it sure helps my non gaming friends appreciate the game more with a shotgun to start off with)

the US version is basically the same, uncensored and all, but no easy mode, and that boulder I guess.

(Killer7 is fantastic, everyone should own it and stroke it along with this title as a shrine to capcom 2004/5)

Aha... didn't know that you get a shotgun in Easy mode, saw the mode on my (censored) Euro version but never tried it. Cheap!

The good Euro versions seem to be taken straight from the Japanese release.

The funny thing about the German version, there are two of them available, a completely uncensored one with the minigames for the German-speaking but not German markets (Austria, Switzerland, northern Italy/Tyrolia) and the butchered one I happened to buy for the domestic market. That stinks.

Your comment about censorship in Killer 7 got me thinking... I guess I'll order the US or JPN version to be on the safe side, even tho I couldn't think of any viable reasons to cut anything in it, judging from my two hours test-run of the game.

EDIT: About the differences between each RE4 version, some say there would be different death scenes/anims in the Euro and US versions. When you are in the castle and meet Salazar, he suddenly opens a trapdoor and you fall down into a deep pit with spikes on the ground, you have to press the dodge buttons to avoid getting impaled. If you do it too late, you'll see Leon getting impaled in the US or JPN versions, but not in some Euro versions - is that true? I always wanted to confirm it but never did because I deleted my per-chapter saves long ago and only kept the full runs, so I was reluctant to start a new game and advance that far just to kill myself...

 

[Amano Jacu]

I don't really see the point in an easy mode for RE4, as it is by far the easiest game in the series in the normal US difficulty. I'm just wondering, what do you exactly start with in the inventory in this mode? Shotgun? You can normally get it after 10 minutes of playing (and no more than a dozen kills) in that barricaded house, and it is actually nice to get it that way when you are cornered and have to clear the way out... Already having it spoils a part of the fun I think.