Healthy Living

Spike Spiegel

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I disagree with a lot of what you said, FS. About the water thing: you retain water because you're not getting enough of it. Much like you store fat if you don't keep your metabolism up. Your body thinks it won't get any water, and therefore stores it. So that logic is backwards. Too much? Sure, you an get too much of anything, but MOST people don't drink enough. I don't think America's number one issue for fitness is how people drink too much.... water.

Certain types of chips and pretzels are fine. They are NOT as bad as fries (lots of carbs dipped in faty grease), but they aren't "healthy". It's good to nibble on food throughout the day, and I use low sodium, fat free pretzels to do just that. My BF% is 6.5 right now, so I think it's okay. ;)

As for hurting after a workout. You won't hurt a ton, like you did when you first started, but you WILL hurt if you do enough. Not too much, but enough. I do agree with stretching before hand, but you are breaking down muscle tissue and you're releasing acids into your muscles from working out. You're supposed to hurt. You're breaking your muscles down, and therefore some pain is going to happen if you're doing it right. I don't get this next thing you said:

You're doing your body more harm than good by destroying it and letting it "repair".

WHAT? That's what weight lifting is all about. You have to let your body heal. You're making micro tears in muscle tissue, and you must rest.
 

Neo Mike

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Spike Spiegel said:
WHAT? That's what weight lifting is all about. You have to let your body heal. You're making micro tears in muscle tissue, and you must rest.

Quoted again for emphasis. Spike is right!

I drink over a gallon of water a day. I literally fill a gallon jug each day, and see to it its done by bedtime...
 

jaydubnb

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MilkManX said:
Another thing I found that helps.

Dance Dance Revolution.

Yeah yeah laugh it up.

Sure you look like a gimp but throw in DDR Max 2 on your PS2 in workout mode and I guarentee that you will sweat like a madman and your cardio is maxing out. Its fun for me. I like the way Loopz put i "Its like you gotta parry all those arrows with your feet"


I have only been doing this for about a month now but I can already feel the results and see them.


http://www.getupmove.com/
 

ForeverSublime

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"breaking down" muscle is a step in growth, not "destruction". Much different. Yangest.

I was being presumtuous by not clarifying I was talking about people who exercise - my fault on the whole matter. Let me clarify a bit more what I meant, and correct me where you see "fit".

I tend to speak from a stance of efficiency, survival, and stability - muscle density over magnitude. Take that a bit into consideration.

Your body shouldn't really HAVE to take a break. You'd be dead in the wild. :) Long term damage to joints needs to be taken into consideration, not just fast muscle build. "Pain" is much different than the sensation you experience while exercising. Pain is a signal that something is wrong... I guess you've covered that, though. Like you said, if you're not used to working out then your body will think something is wrong because your mind has been conditioned to inactivity.

There's more to weight lifting than just muscle building. Muscles are connected to tendons, and tendons to bones, and those bones to other tendons to other muscles. It's common that people who exercise regularly only focus on one of those aspects. You can get big, but a lot of people who do often have inefficient muscles because everything conencted to that muscle hasn't properly developed (the same relationship applies when someone only focuses on one of the other elements of their system as well). I'm by no means as well versed as either of you Spike or Mike, but I've paid good attention to what works for my body as well as what I've seen around me, so I'd just like to add my experiences.

3% ;)

After your water explanation I think you're mostly right, Spike, but I think that pertains more to the people who don't work out at all (I know, you're still right in what you said, you said "most people"... and adequate exercise doesn't fit in with the lives of most people). When you cleanse your system of toxins you should be able to cut back on the fluids because the water you are drinking will be used more efficiently. Cleaning the food you eat will help cut back on useless water consumption. Water effects a lot more than just muscles. You can eat and drink all you want and concentrate that on your exercise, but your spine, central nervous system, and many organs need a special balance of water for maximum efficiency. Why do I feel the need to play Assault Suit Leynos? Trade off.

I guess it all goes down to what body type you currently have and what your ideal body build would be. Nobody is the same.

Anyway, for all of you water drinkers out there - stay away from distilled water. Go with tap or spring.
 
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rarehero

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wow.
i started reading because i thought i might pick up some health tips.
but shit.
i eat sandwiches like crazy.
i have 2 pbj sandwiches during the day (if i wake up early enough to make them)
and then go to the book store and get a thing of chocolate milk and a bag
of mini oreo cookies.
the pbj sandwiches usually don't happen, but when i get to my place i
eat either:
one cheeseburger and a double cheeseburger
or two corned beef sandwiches
or about 6 hotdogs
and with any of the combinations i usually have a pack or two of noodles
(with eggs) on the stove to polish off the night with.
any thing that you guys do is probably great compared to my diet,
which contains tons of sodium, sugar, and white bread like crazy.
 

neo>all

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don't smoke, drink alcohol or caffeine, lay off the sweets, get enough sleep, and get regular excersize. I adhere to every one of those rules but am having trouble with the caffeine one since i have a shit load of studying to do.
 

Spike Spiegel

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Nice post, ForeverSublime. Are you saying you are 3% BF? That's almost impossible, as you need about that much around your organs. I'd like to see a pic of you, you've got to be shredded to all hell.

As for the subject of caffine, I will say one good thing: It's a diuretic. It helps a bit in getting water out of your body. I never understood the dangers of caffine, so I can't comment on it. I still have much to learn.
 

neo>all

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Telling a girl friend about a forum then posting humiliating information about her would be considered an unhealthy lifestyle.
 

Diavle18

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*Haven't read the whole thread so sorry if what I say has been mentioned before.*

-There is an old Russian saying: Eat your breakfast yourself. Share your lunch with a friend. Give your dinner to your enemy. <-- You should eat a lot at breakfast, it charges you up for the rest of the day, and the least at dinner, so as not to stress your body for the night.

-If you piss and your urine is not clear/white/transparent then that means your body needs some cleaning. Drink as much water as possible, soon you'll see that your urine is clear and not yellow which is very good news in terms of how clean your body is. The best drink out there is still water imo.

-An occassional fast or two is recommended by doctors because it helps your body rest, cleanses the organism and strengthens metabolism.

- Apples are very good for you. They are also recommened as a great waker-upper instead of coffee.

- If you are working out then work out no more than 60-90 min a day, otherwise its overkill and actually harms you intead of helping you. Also, do it every other day so your muscles get some rest.

- If you plan or jogging then jog in the morning before breakfast. This way the jogging becomes 300% more effective b/c you are using up whatever you ate the night before instead of fighting whatever you ate at breakfast.
 
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