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I balance my meals. I'm pretty ok with my health this way.

Breakfast :
Milk, cereals / juice, fruits

Lunch :
Meat oriented food

Dinner :
Fish oriented food

This is the most regular basis for me.

You can also alternate meat and fish with pasta or something.

Water is essencial. Drink a lot. :buttrock:
 

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galfordo said:
I'd do either a high rep/low weight type workout, or just something that really gets your heart rate up for a sustained period of time - maybe an elliptical or rowing machine. 30-40 minutes a day, or even every other day to start off with, should be fine as long as the workout is intense.

Making your resistance training into a cardio workout is a great way to burn a bunch more calories, like Galfordo is basically suggesting here. I normally just lift my usual routine with heavy weights, low rep counts, and 2-3 minutes recovery period in between sets. But every now and then, when I reduce the weight a bit, up the number of reps, and drastically reduce the amount of recovery time (this is the key), I can really feel the difference.

Only give yourself one minute of recovery time between sets on the same lift, and spend that one minute jogging in place or jumping rope or anything else that will keep your heart rate up.

That's one way to change up your weight lifting routine and get a heck of a workout doing it. Be sure you've got water handy, you'll need it!
 

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Spike Spiegel said:
Good advice :rolleyes:

I can't help but think of a physically fit person the way Paul Mooney from Chappelle show said: "Everybody wants to be a nigga, but nobody wants to be a nigga"

I can't help but think that everyone wants to look great, but nobody's going to take half of what it takes to do it. I get compliments and what not about my work ethic and physique, but when people see me eating tuna, beans out of a can, water, and rice, they all make fun of how I eat. Look you fat bastards, you have to do something to get something. I wish I could tell people that... but I just smile and eat my food.

It takes more discipline than most people seem to have.

You, sir, speak the truth.

I'm known as "Grapes and Water" amongst my friends because when I'm in a major mood for sweets, I'd rather rustle up some grapes than a pint of Ben and Jerry's. They tease about my diet, but arent willing to my the necessary sacs to get back into shape.
 

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I already commented a bit on fitness/nutrition here

Looks like alot of misinformation here as well about nutrition/fitness. One especially funny comment from someone in a previous thread here on NG was a suggestion to eat Hot dogs. heh. Hot dogs are NOT healthy, and offer NO nutritional value.

Below is some info I posted in Tonk's thread a while back for him. Great info here for you guys wanting to make some changes in your diet/lifestyle...

As someone who is working (slowly) on getting certified as a strength and conditioning specialist (C.S.C.S.) by the National Strength and Conditioning Association, and as a passionate advocate for better living through exercise and good nutrition, I feel like I should chime in here with my thoughts on nutrition, and fitness.

The "C" word: Carbohydrates
In terms of carbs, I see nothing wrong with eating carbs. I eat plenty of carbs, but just eating the RIGHT ones is what is key. Ignore all the NON-Carb hoopla.

You want to concentrate on Low GI (Glycemic Index) carbs. Some examples:
Vegetables, Mixed Beans, Oatmeal, Bran, Whole Grain Breads, Whole Grains, Barley, Brown Rice, Low GI Fruits
Lowfat Milk, Lowfat Yogurt (note: while these dairy products have a low GI, they have a high Insulin Index (the reaction your body produces to the metabolizing of these products), so use in moderation)
White Rice (note: while having a higher GI, these have a low Insulin Index, so again, use in moderation)

The High GI carbs to avoid are as follows:
White Bread this means bagels, tortillas, pitas, and all other forms of bread
Potatoes (the worst very high GI) (sweet potatoes are OK)
High GI fruits (watermelon, dates, raisins, ) and fruit juice eat raw fruits instead (one glass of orange juice has over three oranges in it, without the benefits of the fiber in the raw orange)
Sugar and processed food with sugar or its many forms
Pastas (use in moderation, and never with saturated fats, e.g. fettucine alfredo)
Most breakfast cereals (stick to whole grain / bran cereals if you must eat cereals)

Protein
Proteins: Eat lean proteins, low in saturated fats.
Examples of Good Protein Sources:
Lean Beef (90% lean ground beef, lean steak, filets, rounds)
Chicken (particularly white meat)
Turkey (particularly white meat)
Lean pork (tenderloin, lean ham)
Lowfat dairy products, in moderation
Cottage cheese (highly recommended form of casein protein) I eat mad cottage cheese. Whey protein
Fish, particularly tuna, salmon, and cod
Eggs, particularly egg whites (yolks in moderation)
Soy and soy products, while very good sources of protein, have also been shown in some studies to have potential for causing high estrogen levels and sexual dysfunction. I suggest using these in moderation until testing is completed and a conclusion has been reached. Caveat Emptor.

Proteins to avoid:
Fatty meats (non-extra lean ground beef, fatty pork (HOT DOGS, bacon, ribs, etc)
Fatty dairy (whole milk, most cheese, ice cream)

Fats: Fats, as I mentioned in my other post are an essential ingredient in our diet. Poly and monounsaturated fats must be included in your daily plan. A small amount of saturated fats are also needed. Key is to minimize saturated fats, maximize monounsaturated fats and polyunsaturated fats.

You should also try to get good Essential Fatty Acids Omega 3 and Omega 6s. No more than 1/3 of your fat calories should be saturated fats (if you are on a 40/30/30 plan, 10% of your calories may come from sat. fats)

Here's some Examples of good fats:
Fish and fish oils polyunsaturated, best source of Omega 3s tuna, salmon, cod
Flaxseed oil some Omega 3, good Omega 6
Olive Oil - monounsaturated fat
Avocados monounsaturated fat
Nuts mono, poly, and omega 6s best are walnuts and almonds (raw almonds rock)

Bad fats:
Saturated fats from animal products (fatty beef, pork, milk, etc)
Hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated fats (trans fatty acids) - Wicked Bad Stuff. (margarine and Crisco are trans fatty acids)
Most vegetable oil and corn oils suck.

Veggies
I eat a bunch of veggies, you really cant go wrong here unless they are covered in butter or mayo or something gross anyways, and if thats the case, avoid em.

FruitsIf u feel a craving for fruits, go ahead. Despite what "Dr. Atkins" might say, America isn't obese because of its fruit eating.

Milk - buy non fat or skim. Eat lowfat cottage cheese - "The curd is king"

Snacks
Here's what i mostly eat for snacks: Cottage cheese, Natural (no trans fat) peanut butter, Beef Jerky, Raw Almonds, Protein Bars, Protein Shakes, etc.

DRINK MAD WATER!

And here's some other tips:
Avoid mixing high GI carbs with fats
Avoid all processed / prepackaged foods
Read labels! Be on the lookout for bad stuff (esp trans fats)!
Do not eat too little. Your metabolism will slow to a crawl and you will stop burning fat.
Do not eat too much. You will store excess as fat.
Alcohol, if required, must be kept to a minimum. When you drink alcohol, your body uses the alcohol as an energy source instead of burning your fat stores.

Whew
Hope this helps some of you guys.

-Mike
 
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Spike Spiegel said:
The thing I did was just work out. Working out alone helps in ways you can't imagine. The eating part is the hard part. There's not a thing that goes in my mouth that I'm not thinking about, and I would say about 75% of my body comes from the food I eat

This man speaks the truth. Personally, I eat like every 2-3 hours...and the time between eating all i can think about is what i'm going to eat next. i'm obsessive when it comes to food, and nutrition. My friends call me on it all the time too, but I dont give a shit. I look 10x better than all of them, and am 10x more fit. Its just determination.

As long as you're eating clean, that's key.

Feel free to PM me or Email me with any questions as well SonGohan. Good luck with your fitness goals...
 
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First of all, Ditch the Gatorade....

It's nothing but junk Sugar. What are the three most common ingredients after water in gatorade? 3 different types of sugar.

There is no point in dumping soda if your just going to load up on gatorade.

I drink DIet Pepsi. It's awesome stuff. It doesn't choke you like sugared soda.

What do you do for a living?

I used to work 50+ hours a day hauling ass at a lumber mill. I was on a 5 meal, 6000 Calorie a day diet. Lost alot of weight.

Now that I have a desk job, I gained it all back.
 

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Wow, thanks a lot Neo Mike! This is a lot of stuff to keep in mind, but I'm determined to learn it. It may sound weird, but after last night I'm already feeling results. At lunch I had a chicken salad with no dressing and ice water. When I came back to work I could immediately feel the difference. I'm assuming it can only get better from here. This morning I walked (at a fast pace) 5 miles, did a set of 100 pushups and situps and some curls.

It's a slow start, and it's not so much the exercise I'm worried about as it is finding the right thing to eat. Cutting the sodas wasn't hard, but it's taking a little bit of my body to get used to the water, but that'll come in time. I plan on still drinking Gatorade, but only when I work out. Would any of you advise against that?


PS - lol @ Neo Mike's hatred for hotdogs
 

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I'd listen to everything NeoMike says. All that info is pure gold. I've dabbled with bodybuilding and general fitness for a quite awhile learning as I go, but all that nutritional info is spot on 100% true. The important thing is to start small. You want a lifestyle change, not a quick fix. This comes through forming new habits, and slowly adjusting. Even things like eating 5-6 times a day require alot of effort and pre-planning. Not to mention getting used to eating that much. As far as exercise, start small as well. Start with maybe just getting a cardio routine for 30 minutes, and slowly build up from there. Then introduce lifting as well. And focus on compound movements( movements that use more than one muscle, squats for example) These kinds of movements are harder on your body, but you'll burn more calories than just doing isolated movements. And always always do your cardio after your weight training, you want to burn all the glycogen( carbs) out of your system by lifting, so that when you begin your cardio after, your glycogen is depleted and you'll be buring fat entirely through your cardio. Its alot info to take in at first, but start small and go at your own pace. I would save all the nutrition info NeoMike has laid out to your hard drive, so you can constantly reference it for ideas. Good Luck, its a lot of work, but ultimately all this will add years to life and quality of living.
 

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yeah, you should definitely ditch the gatorade. soda is carbonated sugar water. gatorate is just sugar water...drink regular water. i've heard even carbonated waters like san pelegrino, etc. can do bad things to your body, but i forget what. i drink water only now, and have been for a few months and feel tons better/healthier. i'll still drink jack&coke when i go out, but in moderation, oh well.

also, i've been riding my bike to work. 5 miles each way. if this is an option for you, give it a try. or walk. it gets me to work, and it's a little bit of physical activity as well. easy.

another thing that i can recommend is to eat organic foods whenever possible. if you can't go vegetarian, i can't, then eat organic meats and veggies. they're slightly more money, but they taste better and are much healthier for you. god knows what's in that other stuff...

i don't really have a lot of stuff that other people haven't already said, so this is all i got.
 

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Neo Mike said:
Looks like alot of misinformation here as well about nutrition/fitness. One especially funny comment from someone in a previous thread here on NG was a suggestion to eat Hot dogs. heh. Hot dogs are NOT healthy, and offer NO nutritional value.

Liar!!!

Babe Ruth is the greatest Athlete of all time. By some accounts, he ate 8 hot dogs a game.
 

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Me too I'm not as healthy as I used to be now I'm a drunken brawling drinkers what I mean is that I always over drink at a party to much. And now my belly is beer belly. :(
 

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Here's my tips for fitness, or at least the ones that have worked for me:

1.) NO GATORADE! It's ok in moderation; maybe after a long run or workout, but it's empty calories and not much else. Drink water first before anything else.

2.) Like someone said above, drink diet soda (or no soda at all if you don't like diet). After drinking diet soda for a long time, the amount of sugar in a regular soda will make you feel sick. this is a good thing.

3.) Eat a lot of fish, it's really good for you. Just make sure it isn't fried.

4.) Avoid fast food as much as possible. If you must, subway is your best friend. Get a sub on *WHEAT* (avoid white bread! get used to it) with no mayo and no cheese. instead of mayo, get one of the low or no fat sauces they have on the end of the line (like the sweet onion sauce).

5.) Do not eat anymore after you eat dinner. Your metabolism slows down at night and while you sleep, which is bad.


As far as working out goes...

1.) Lifting weights is great. I've done it for the better part of a decade (i'm 23). BUT - just lifting weights for most people is not enough. You really need to mix some cardio in there if you want to get that body fat to go away and have your muscle tone show through (chicks love it). took me a long time to realize this.

2.) Lifting with a buddy really helps you push yourself harder and allows someone to spot you so that you don't kill yourself when you drop 225 lbs on your sternum. highly recommend it. it also keeps the both of you motivated.

3.) Running is the classic cardio workout that everyone does, and it's great. But - one of the most underestimated cardio workouts on the planet is swimming. I've swam all my life and continue to do so - it works out almost every muscle in your body (especially shoulders and back) equally and really brings out muscle tone in your arms, chest, and abdominals. The best part? it's no impact. there is almost 0% chance you will injure yourself swimming. With running you take the risk of shin splints, ankle soreness, strained muscles, damaging your knees. The only injury i've ever gotten swimming was the occassional bruise from hitting the wall and a ruptured eardrum from diving in the wrong way. plus after your workout in the pool you're not covered in sweat and dirt. definitely give it a try if you have access to an olympic size pool (try a local rec center or YMCA).

4.) Don't workout too much. working out more than 5 times a week tends to be more detrimental to your body because it doesn't have time to heal and get stronger. A "good" week for me is about 4 times, usually M/TU/TH/SAT (rest wednesday and sunday).

DONT GIVE UP! All of this stuff might sound overwhelming but if you are serious about getting in shape, you really have to stick to it. it's 99.9% mental - you have to form healthy habits and be patient in order for this to work. But if you do it right, you will feel like a new person.
 

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norton9478 said:
Liar!!!

Babe Ruth is the greatest Athlete of all time. By some accounts, he ate 8 hot dogs a game.

Babe Ruth was one of the greatest Baseball players of all time, but I wouldn't call a man that fat (i.e. most of MLB) an "athlete"
 

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I applaud you that you're taking steps to improve your health. It ain't easy.

I dunno, man. I just couldn't do it. I enjoy my junk food and soda way too much. Although I do eat fruit, rice, and plenty of fish and chicken. To me it isn't worth it. I'm pretty skinny for the most part (I do have a little roll around the stomach). It just seems like alot of lifestyle changing and discipline - and what do you get out of it? To impress people? Although I can see your point of waking up and feeling good.

Let's face it - the older you get, the shittier you're gonna look, and to look less shitty takes 30X the work as it did when you were younger.
 

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Another thing I found that helps.

Dance Dance Revolution.

Yeah yeah laugh it up.

Sure you look like a gimp but throw in DDR Max 2 on your PS2 in workout mode and I guarentee that you will sweat like a madman and your cardio is maxing out. Its fun for me. I like the way Loopz put i "Its like you gotta parry all those arrows with your feet"


I have only been doing this for about a month now but I can already feel the results and see them.
 

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jLew said:
Babe Ruth was one of the greatest Baseball players of all time, but I wouldn't call a man that fat (i.e. most of MLB) an "athlete"

He'd kick your ass then outrun you.
 

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I almost never eat fruits or vegetables straight, but I drink plenty of (low sodium) V8 (much better still Trader Joe's Garden Patch) and 100% fruit juices. Just a tip if you're lazy like me.

Fruit shakes are awesome too. Frozen berries, lowfat yogurt and orange juice is tits, my breakfast consists of that and toast. Also, 100% whole wheat bread is a must.
 

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dude starcrunch owns, i've gone through a whole box of those in one day before, does a body good. i like the nutty bars and the rice crspy debbies too
 

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Be sure to read the label on the bread products. Many will have enriched flour on the label and be advertised as whole grain. Get the products that have 'whole grain or stone ground whole grain' on the ingredients label.
 

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DashK said:
dude starcrunch owns, i've gone through a whole box of those in one day before, does a body good. i like the nutty bars and the rice crspy debbies too

Stargrunches are garbage.

The $.25 Oatmeal cakes own.... I was putting down a box of them a day.
 

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You must have the desire to drop the pounds off before anything else. I've committed myself to havinga healthier lifestyle this Summer by not eating as much during the semester and getting out and exercising more. Lots and lots of cardiovascular work walking up and down steep hills and the occassional walk alongside the RR tracks. I'm currently at 300 lbs. even, down from 305-307 when school ended, so the committment and the results are there, but it's gonna take time. My goal is to get down to 260 by the end of the Summer. Make up a plan of your own, stick w/ it, and most of all, enjoy trying to better yourself physically, and you'll more than likely be pleased w/ the results.
 

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Nobody has brought up Meth Amphetamines yet....

Loose weight while playing third strike all night!!!!!!!1
 

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DashK said:
dude starcrunch owns, i've gone through a whole box of those in one day before, does a body good. i like the nutty bars and the rice crspy debbies too

Now we know why you won't post your pic, you fat bastard. :shame:
 

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Just a random list of stuff to jabber about in the 3 minutes I have to type:

Stay away from chips/pretzels - even if they're organic or baked. Just because something is organic doesn't mean it has nutritional value. There's not much difference between these foods and french fries. Andres ;)

Hydrogenated oils: Even "all natural" products like Newman's Own has these in them. Not good. Cottonseed oil has a lot of chemicals in it that should be avoided as well.

If you really hurt after you work out you're probably doing something wrong. Your body was designed to exercise almost all the time. Work on light stretching after your body is warm - it'll help out some. Other than that, read up on dos and don'ts or ask a personal trainer for help. It's good to take a rest a day or two a week, but that every other day stuff is nonesense. You're doing your body more harm than good by destroying it and letting it "repair".

Drink water when you're thirsty. Don't drink water to "fill up". Lots of people are carrying around too much water weight to begin with. Water is an essential part of maintaining your body's electrical system. Water is good for cleaning out the bad, but too much water will dilute the good.
 
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