Has the vs. matchups, been done right?

[AztekNinja]

CAPCOM vs. SNK
CAPCOM vs. SNK 2
SNK vs. CAPCOM: Match of the Millenium
SNK vs. CAPCOM: Chaos

Have these matchups been done right? Everyone of these games has its good points. What do you think was wrong about all these? Did the companies implement the dream matchup right?

I mean look at the games, many of the same characters over and over. Rush jobs on both sides. What is your ultimate SNK vs. CAPCOM? Does this vs. matchup have much of a future? How far can they strectch this novelty? Post your opinion.

 

[Kemps]

CVS - No!
CVS2 - Yes...
MOTM - Yes!
SVC - Okay.

So far, all the crossovers save MOTM have been letdowns. What I want:

ALL new sprites - I am disgusted at the amount of sprite rehashes going on in crossovers. If you're not going to take the time to put some care into the characters, well, fuck you.

Half classic backgrounds, half new backgrounds - updated a bit of course. There are some really good stages Capcom and SNK have from their past games. Krauser, AOF '95, Ryu, Guile, etc. New stages should have a crossover theme.

Classic music - yeah.

Better roster - no more of the SFII cast. Please! I'd rather see Wyler than Honda or Dhalsim again!

One consistent playing system - how about the 3rd Strike engine for everyone? All these grooves are kinda messy.

Character interaction - SVC had it, and it was a nice plus for me. I want to see more of it!

Characters out of character - namely, the Capcom side. I'm talking different clothes, some moves they NEVER had, etc.

Story and ending - I don't care if there's a problem with the timeline; the AOF team shouldn't even be in KOF as it is.

Gameplay-wise, I think Capcom is better. Presentation-wise SNK takes it. I'd much rather see SVC2 than CVS3.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

I think CvsSNK2 is the best of the bunch. I love the groves you can choose from... which really shows just how much history each company has, and all the styles and techniques over the years. I do agree that I wish EVERYONE was redone completely. What I like about CvsSNK2 is they also have a ton of characters, and many that aren't shown often. Eagle, Maki, Rock Howard for instance.... nice. But, again, too bad not everyone was redrawn completely. Same goes for SvsC. I love the redraws of the new guys, but could we NOT reuse KOF sprites? KOF for crying out loud, while I love the series to death, has the worst sprites out of any Neo Geo series in recent years. Couldn't they have used Real Bout or MOTW sprites? Redone Iori and Kyo? Hmmm.

I'm pretty pleased with CvsSNK2 and think of it as cannon. The matchups work well in it. Now, if they could only make a 3, and remove some cheap moves.

Spike

 

[SPINMASTER X]

I'm not going to sit here and list alot of shit i'm just gonna let you know the basics, kinda.....

Anyway, the game that started out the best in my eyes was CvS, It had everything a beginner game should have had. It had great character intros and the thing that made it so much more badass was the fact they put the oldskool music from both worlds in the game which gave it much more atmosphere. The downfall was the ratios and the movelists.

What I would have done is basically worked off of CvS's goodpoints and made the movelists 100% and gave the SNK chars 4 buttons and Capcom chars 6 buttons.

With CvS2 I woulda basically built off of what was already in the first game and as far as the roster is concerned I would have looked at who has to be in there, and who would be cool in there and who hasn't seen any action and deserves to be in there. This way you get your standard characters, and you a suprise with peeps who've been out of it for a while and are making a comeback. Maki is a good example of this.

basically thats it.

 

[AztekNinja]

Interesting, I wish CAPCOM would release a third installment. Just with a shitload of characters like in MvC2, just fucken make sure that you balance that shit.

 

[ajk1080]

Perfect xover game for me would be

1. SF3 engine
2. Hi Res Hi animation 100% new sprites
3. Many diff types of opening dialog and interaction
4. Cap 6 buttons, SNK 4
5. Option to have 1on1 or KOF like tournament play
6. Fully animated endings

 

[AztekNinja]

6. Fully animated endings

That would be fucken awesome!

 

[OmegaSaber]

I like most of the games, of all 4 CvsS2 gets on my nerves the most, with MOTM, SVC, and CVS being faves.

My idea would be completely out of left field. Actually make the game everyone's been waiting for, make it stand out, as it's own, not like it was thrown together. The premise for it would revolve around a KoF tournament. Basically make a dream match that has story elements to it but really doesn't involve a continuous story, make it in it's own universe. A KoF tournament that called the best fighters from both universes out to actually prove themselves, without evil organizations involved.

ALL sprites would be uniform and new, created for this game.
A basic fighting system with highlights from both franchises.
A team country for each side, i.e. Capcom Japan Team / SNK Japan Team
Not just Street Fighter characters for Capcom, same for SNK (KoF, SS)
Lots of character interaction and more rivalries explored (pre and post fight).
A NEW boss, co-created for this game by both companies.

Basically a new game made from scratch with BOTH companies working on it, not just so and so's interpretation of the match-up.

 

[SPINMASTER X]

Basically a new game made from scratch with BOTH companies working on it, not just so and so's interpretation of the match-up.

EXACTLY!!

 

[AztekNinja]

My idea would be completely out of left field. Actually make the game everyone's been waiting for, make it stand out, as it's own, not like it was thrown together. The premise for it would revolve around a KoF tournament. Basically make a dream match that has story elements to it but really doesn't involve a continuous story, make it in it's own universe. A KoF tournament that called the best fighters from both universes out to actually prove themselves, without evil organizations involved.

EXACTLY!!! I want fucken Strider going in there, dammit! Redrawn with new moves and non-lame supers.