FIXED! Infinity debunked. Xbox One is the official name.

[Dr Shroom]

Mac user

 

[NeoSneth]

Facebook, Pandora, Netflix, or Vudu.
If any of them change their API, your TV app is fucked. And good luck getting a TV manufacturer to update firmware. That happens once or twice in a TV's lifetime.

 

[Yodd]

Mac user

ze german


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[Taiso]

Facebook, Pandora, Netflix, or Vudu.
If any of them change their API, your TV app is fucked. And good luck getting a TV manufacturer to update firmware. That happens once or twice in a TV's lifetime.

They skirt the issue by putting a disclaimer in the owner's manual, but it still doesn't stop people from blaming the manufacturer.

The one I work for does communicate with the providers of those services when things go wrong. They only get fixed sometimes.

Manufacturers are, more often than not, thinking about next year's model. It's not unprecedented for them to release firmware. But not as common as you might think.

Ironically, the solution: use your PC. Which is exactly what these manufacturers want the consumers NOT to do.

 

[SNKorSWM]

And with pc gaming you deal with other crap. Os issues, drivers, updates and all the other stuff that go along with Windows. And that's if your hardware will even be sufficient to run the game at an acceptable framerate.

I like closed hardware for this reason. When you put a PS3 game in a PS3, you know it's going to work. Yeah, might be some updates, but otherwise no other concerns before jumping into your game.

Open hardware and desktop OS is a double edged sword.




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If something requires updates to function, it's not a closed hardware. And lots of people have to send the PS3 over for ylod repairs, so when you put a PS3 game in there, it might not always work.

 

[Dr Shroom]

ze german


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

You took the coward's way out.
The recurring question if something runs on my PC and how well it runs is like pure gay buttsex to me, the suspense is the best part. Not like you'd be able to play anything on your underpowered and overpriced hipster "non"-PC

 

[Spike Spiegel]

If something requires updates to function, it's not a closed hardware. And lots of people have to send the PS3 over for ylod repairs, so when you put a PS3 game in there, it might not always work.

That's idiotic logic, and a terrible come back to a legitimate point.

 

[SonGohan]

That's idiotic logic, and a terrible come back to a legitimate point.

What legitimate point? That you need hardware to run games at an acceptable framerate? I have a PC I built in 2008 that runs current games just fine. That's 5 years going strong. Sure, there will be a point that it won't run games well anymore, but by the time that happens, it'd be close to a console's life cycle, anyway. What exactly is the point, here? If anything, you can even argue that at least your new PC will still be able to play all your old PC games. Also, no matter how you slice it, PC gaming is capable of better graphics.

And I'm not even that big of a PC gamer.

 

[Yodd]

If something requires updates to function, it's not a closed hardware. And lots of people have to send the PS3 over for ylod repairs, so when you put a PS3 game in there, it might not always work.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic...



or just stupid.

You took the coward's way out.
The recurring question if something runs on my PC and how well it runs is like pure gay buttsex to me, the suspense is the best part. Not like you'd be able to play anything on your underpowered and overpriced hipster "non"-PC

German plz

i7 3770
32GBs ram
2GB GTX 680Mx


Hardly underpowered.

 

[OrochiEddie]

Video Game consoles are all about community these days. Some of you can argue all you want you don't want a particular console for whatever reasons, but in the end if you need to play modern games (I Do) and all your friends are on a specific platform, well guess what?, odds are you are going there as well. I owned the PS3 and 360 this current generation and played 90% on the 360 because my peoples adopted Xbox Live far more than PSN. I'm almost positive my peoples are going the Xbox One route in the future... and I'll be there with them.

Then you and your friends can enjoy your terrible purchase.

Like others mentioned I mostly play 1p aside from fighters. Nothing sounds worse than an 11 year old jacked up on Monster calling me a faggot on Call of Duty. That kid would have had shit beat out of him in an arcade.

 

[cdamm]

Nothing sounds worse than an 11 year old jacked up on Monster calling me a faggot on Call of Duty. That kid would have had shit beat out of him in an arcade.

this.

this is a big reason why my xbox is very dusty right now and my xbl membership experiment never made it out of that one purchase.

 

[OrochiEddie]

this.

this is a big reason why my xbox is very dusty right now and my xbl membership experiment never made it out of that one purchase.

haha we are apparently on the same wavelength when in it comes to console modern console gaming.


I think its great all the online options are there for gamers, but some of us enjoy a solo experience, or just not a competitive one. I'd love more co-op games like little big planet.

 

[Taiso]

I would really like to see some hard stats on how many people are actually playing online games outside of military FPS and Street Fighter.

I bet the numbers are smaller than people might expect.

The whole 'games are about online community' idea seems like more BS Microsoft marketing made up. It doesn't feel like a real thing.

Or, more appropriately, it feels like something that sounds more important than it actually is.

Also, 1P gaming is far from dead. In fact, I'd bet money that if we did some research on 1P games currently selling, the numbers would actually be decent. Or for games that have multi that people aren't bothering to hook up to play because they don't care. The current market mentality has people thinking 'CoD or bust' in terms of sales and online/social community.

In truth, I think people look at certain games as purely multiplayer experiences, like Halo, Gears, CoD and so forth. Even though they offer 1P content, I think that some games are just viewed as predominantly multiplayer experiences, but the mindset has somehow projected to all gaming.

I still like Sony's approach to it more. When you turn on your PS3, you get the XMB. There are some applications for Amazon, Netflix, etc., but that stuff isn't (currently) in your face. It's there if you want to access it. You can't step five feet in the Xbox Live interface without seeing some kind of advertisement for a new song or a new movie or TV show, or some UFC fight or sporting event.

These are the stats I'm curious about, actually. How many Xbox owners actually even care about all that stuff? Not saying they dont. Just wondering what the ratio is.

 

[brentsg]

I would definitely agree that the Xbox interface has consistently gotten a lot worse over time. I've mostly favored it because I like the controller better.

There is no online community, aside from a COD mosh pit.

 

[Magician]

I just can't help but look at the number of connected 360s against total sales. Back in April it was estimated that Xbox Live subscibers stood at 46 million. With total system sales around 78 million worldwide that's (potentially) 32 million sales/customers the XB1 won't receive. I just don't see XB1 passing the 360 in total sales while an internet connection is required to register and play games.

That target of "one billion" Xbox One worldwide lifetime sales is going to be really tough to achieve.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbo...on-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units/

 

[cdamm]

I just can't help but look at the number of connected 360s against total sales. Back in April it was estimated that Xbox Live subscibers stood at 46 million. With total system sales around 78 million worldwide that's (potentially) 32 million sales/customers the XB1 won't receive. I just don't see XB1 passing the 360 in total sales while an internet connection is required to register and play games.

That target of "one billion" Xbox One worldwide lifetime sales is going to be really tough to achieve.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbo...on-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units/

do total sales also includes all the people that had to buy more than one due to rrod issues? if the xbox one is as reliable as the 360, 1 billion may be achievable.

 

[Renmauzo]

do total sales also includes all the people that had to buy more than one due to rrod issues? if the xbox one is as reliable as the 360, 1 billion may be achievable.

It probably will be about as reliable as the 360. That's why MS had stopped making their own PCs, they just couldn't get the hardware to not break down.

 

[Magician]

do total sales also includes all the people that had to buy more than one due to rrod issues? if the xbox one is as reliable as the 360, 1 billion may be achievable.

LOL

No, I don't believe serviced RROD 360s count towards the posted lifetime sales of 78 million. Considering most 360 owners have gone through three to five replacement systems I'd imagine the total sales would be much much higher if they were counted as such.

 

[Taiso]

LOL

No, I don't believe serviced RROD 360s count towards the posted lifetime sales of 78 million. Considering most 360 owners have gone through three to five replacement systems I'd imagine the total sales would be much much higher if they were counted as such.

Factor those in and it comes out to roughly 1 billion.

Some suit at Microsoft doesn't understand how to read reports and just decided XBone can match that figure.

 

[SonGohan]

lol xbone

 

[Magician]

Factor those in and it comes out to roughly 1 billion.

Some suit at Microsoft doesn't understand how to read reports and just decided XBone can match that figure.

To be fair, the article also mentions how the quoted MS exec would like to see one-hundred million XB1 sales in the first five years of its existence. I think MS will be lucky to get half that in that span of time.

 

[cdamm]

LOL

No, I don't believe serviced RROD 360s count towards the posted lifetime sales of 78 million. Considering most 360 owners have gone through three to five replacement systems I'd imagine the total sales would be much much higher if they were counted as such.

i didn't say serviced- i said ones people had to buy again (out of warranty or not sent in to be serviced by ms). plus the ones that have been bricked by MS- thats another buy for a lot of those unfortunate souls. customers.

i know more than a few people that had to buy more than one system.

 

[FAT$TACKS]

I've not got a 360 anymore. I've had 3 of them, but when my last one finally died I never bought another. My roomie had at least 2 that I know of and I think he is on his 3rd system now. Saddly its been like that for just about everyone I know locally who has had a 360.

However, the crappy quality was not my biggest gripe with the system. The online experience was really worse than the quality issues. I tried to get into that call of doodie because that was the only game I had any local friends who were online playing. I won't be making that mistake again. Aside from the games being awful, the whole of xbox live for me was nothing but listening to some dumb ass kids whine, rednecks bashing anyone with skin darker than Tony Orlando, rap music played over the chat system, nigger this and nigger that, and attention whores loosing us every match with their awful kill/death ratio. So you have to mute almost everyone. With that then there was never anything that looked remotely like it could be considered team work. Finally I was like, why am I playing this and why am I paying for this service.

I liked it when a social video game was having someone standing next to you while you were playing. This being annoymous while gaming is not being social in any way. It removes all humanity from the event and turns into a one player experience. To me it feels that all the last few years of this style of gaming has done is to make the event less of a social experience. If anything it encourages antisocial play.

 

[Magician]

i didn't say serviced- i said ones people had to buy again (out of warranty or not sent in to be serviced by ms). plus the ones that have been bricked by MS- thats another buy for a lot of those unfortunate souls. customers.

i know more than a few people that had to buy more than one system.

Ah, my fault.

 

[bokmeow]

I liked it when a social video game was having someone standing next to you while you were playing. This being annoymous while gaming is not being social in any way. It removes all humanity from the event and turns into a one player experience. To me it feels that all the last few years of this style of gaming has done is to make the event less of a social experience. If anything it encourages antisocial play.

This.