Disney Forbidding Distribution Moore´s latest film

[Temjin]

Maybe this is a war-room topic.
I think this is disgusting: http://www.michaelmoore.com/

Disney Forbidding Distribution of Film That Criticizes Bush.
Feels like mideaval times or something, when slave farmers
didn´t dare stand up to their landowners cause they might
be driven of their farms or something.
Lucky for me that I live in Europe though, cause it´s
geting distribution here!
Does anyone in USA like this joke of a President?

I heard on the news today that American analysts say that
when USA leaves Iraq and let the Iraqies hold a free election
they most likely will vote for a Nationalist muslim party,that
will be great, a new regime even more hostile towards the USA
than any other in the world.
The USA will have gained nothing by geting rid of Saddam, well
maybe a new enemy.

 

[Tacitus]

Good.


The concept behind it sucks, yes. He should be allowed to distribute his propaganda freely.

On the other hand, Michael Moore makes satire but paints it up as a documentary. For the interest of space, I won't repost it, but "bowling for columbine" was one of the most manipulated, staged, altered and just plain INCORRECT 'documentaries' of all time.

Don't give me the "other side" does it too argument, when you call yourself a documentary, you better damn well be FACTUAL, which he fails ALL THE TIME.

Michael Moore is a POS.

(this is no statement for or against his political views or statements... just the fact he's a BS artist)

He's a farce of himself.. because he did some really great things about 20 years ago.

 

[slerch666]

Do I like GWB Jr? No. How will I support this? How about by not voting for him?

Do I care that Disney is blocking this film? No. It'll see release, if not through Miramax, then someone else will pick it up. His films are notoriously famous in the 'art run' type stuff, so someone NOT picking it up, if not Miramax smoothing it over with Disney, would be more of a surprise.

As far as the US making another enemy in Iraq, oh well. They know we can fuck them hard in the ass if we don't have to worry about 'civilian' deaths, so who cares.

This movie smells of the same trick that dude the just wrote that Anti-GWB Jr. book, right before his trip into the 9-11 Commission. I can't think of his name, because I don't really give a fuck, but I'm sure someone else on here knows his name and will be more than happy to post it for me. Anti-GWB Jr books and movies will make LOTS AND LOTS OF CASH at this particular point in time, it's election year and for some reason people want to see Anti-GWB jr stuff.

Sure, he may have been working on it for a couple of years so the 9-11 Commission may have nothing to do with it, but is it just coincidence that it was set to appear in cinemas during an electionyear? I SERIOUSLY doubt that, and if anyone says he's just trying to open people's eyes, I call bullshit. He's trying to make a quick buck, pure and simple.

If they really want to be ignorant to him, and make it funny at the same time, they'll let Miramax release his film... AFTER the election. I would love to see that.

I'm in a bad mood today.

 

[FeelGood]

Do I like GWB Jr? No. How will I support this? How about by not voting for him?

you'd be wiser to vote against him than not to vote for him.

Anyhow, I don't like the type of argument style Michael Moore takes where he draws an extremist to make a point. I get into arguments all the time with people over my right to own guns and so far, no one has succesfully beaten me on the point that more people die from cars than from guns -

to which they typically respond that guns, unlike cars, are created with the intention of killing -

to which I respond that intention does not outweigh the quantity and likelihood of death moving vehicles carry over firearms.

Yesterday I was walking around washington park and my friend told me about how a person was bludgeoned to death by a fire extinguisher. I told him fire extinguishers don't kill people, people kill people.

He said 5 year old children bring guns to school and kill - and I was flummoxed - could he have even used a handgun and make that statement? A five year old would have trouble holding a gun, much less pulling the trigger. He said children now have stronger hands and fingers from playing video games - again ignorant, and children should only have stronger thumbs - playing video games, our trigger fingers are not exactly used.



as usual, the argument ends with the other side calling me stupid. So much for debate.

 

[Tacitus]

you'd be wiser to vote against him than not to vote for him.

Anyhow, I don't like the type of argument style Michael Moore takes where he draws an extremist to make a point. I get into arguments all the time with people over my right to own guns and so far, no one has succesfully beaten me on the point that more people die from cars than from guns -

to which they typically respond that guns, unlike cars, are created with the intention of killing -

to which I respond that intention does not outweigh the quantity and likelihood of death moving vehicles carry over firearms.

Yesterday I was walking around washington park and my friend told me about how a person was bludgeoned to death by a fire extinguisher. I told him fire extinguishers don't kill people, people kill people.

He said 5 year old children bring guns to school and kill - and I was flummoxed - could he have even used a handgun and make that statement? A five year old would have trouble holding a gun, much less pulling the trigger. He said children now have stronger hands and fingers from playing video games - again ignorant, and children should only have stronger thumbs - playing video games, our trigger fingers are not exactly used.



as usual, the argument ends with the other side calling me stupid. So much for debate.

Next time I'm in VA visiting, you're coming with me to say exactly the same thing to my sister.

Heh.

I've made that exact same argument, hopefully hearing it from someone else will prove I'm not making shit up.. or insane.

 

[BioMotor_Unitron]

Maybe this is a war-room topic.
I think this is disgusting: http://www.michaelmoore.com/

Disney Forbidding Distribution of Film That Criticizes Bush.
Feels like mideaval times or something, when slave farmers
didn´t dare stand up to their landowners cause they might
be driven of their farms or something.
Lucky for me that I live in Europe though, cause it´s
geting distribution here!
Does anyone in USA like this joke of a President?

I heard on the news today that American analysts say that
when USA leaves Iraq and let the Iraqies hold a free election
they most likely will vote for a Nationalist muslim party,that
will be great, a new regime even more hostile towards the USA
than any other in the world.
The USA will have gained nothing by geting rid of Saddam, well
maybe a new enemy.

Last time I checked, Disney was not a government entity, and has no obligation to distribute any film they don't want to. It's a free market, so Michael Moore can take it to another company. Saying that Disney is "forbidding" distribution makes it sound like they have the final say over all distributors.

 

[SML]

Good luck to him in quickly finding a distributor, though I know I'll probably hate it. I generally share Vanilla's views on his body of work. But there's nothing that can be said here that hasn't been played out to death on the IMDB forums for Bowling.

 

[slerch666]

you'd be wiser to vote against him than not to vote for him.

I meant, I'll be voting, but not for him, not that I am not voting.

 

[Tacitus]

Good luck to him in quickly finding a distributor, though I know I'll probably hate it. I generally share Vanilla's views on his body of work. But there's nothing that can be said here that hasn't been played out to death on the IMDB forums for Bowling.

Interesting note about Michael Moore in this case.

I'm sure he'll scream about his freedom of speech being taken away... but when it comes to another amendment in the Constituition... we're stupid and it should be taken away.

 

[rarehero]

funny stuff.
nobody is preventing him from going to another company and having it distributed.
if disney doesn't want to put it out, that's their own decision.
they don't have a responsibility to micheal moore in the least.
he'll be showing it at the cannes anyways so I don't really see the big deal.
just a marketing ploy.
he's just a comedic political commentary satiritist. just like alot of people now.
it's the next big thing in comedy.
besides. when was the last good movie he put out anyways?
canadian bacon?
what. when john candy was still alive?
hah.

 

[Tacitus]

funny stuff.
nobody is preventing him from going to another company and having it distributed.
if disney doesn't want to put it out, that's their own decision.
they don't have a responsibility to micheal moore in the least.
he'll be showing it at the cannes anyways so I don't really see the big deal.
just a marketing ploy.
he's just a comedic political commentary satiritist. just like alot of people now.
it's the next big thing in comedy.
besides. when was the last good movie he put out anyways?
canadian bacon?
what. when john candy was still alive?
hah.

Calling canadian bacon funny.. is an affront to all comedy, worldwide.

I've laughed more at cancer patients.

 

[BioMotor_Unitron]

funny stuff.
nobody is preventing him from going to another company and having it distributed.
if disney doesn't want to put it out, that's their own decision.
they don't have a responsibility to micheal moore in the least.
he'll be showing it at the cannes anyways so I don't really see the big deal.
just a marketing ploy.
he's just a comedic political commentary satiritist. just like alot of people now.
it's the next big thing in comedy.
besides. when was the last good movie he put out anyways?
canadian bacon?
what. when john candy was still alive?
hah.

Canadian Bacon had more truth to it than Michael Moore's so-called "documentaries."

 

[galfordo]

Good.


The concept behind it sucks, yes. He should be allowed to distribute his propaganda freely.

On the other hand, Michael Moore makes satire but paints it up as a documentary. For the interest of space, I won't repost it, but "bowling for columbine" was one of the most manipulated, staged, altered and just plain INCORRECT 'documentaries' of all time.

Don't give me the "other side" does it too argument, when you call yourself a documentary, you better damn well be FACTUAL, which he fails ALL THE TIME.

Michael Moore is a POS.

(this is no statement for or against his political views or statements... just the fact he's a BS artist)

He's a farce of himself.. because he did some really great things about 20 years ago.

AMEN. Thank You.

Everybody's always so quick to cry censorship - maybe Disney just thinks his work sucks. Isn't that their right?

 

[beelzebubble]

yep i agree totally.

(beelzebubble cunningly breaks in his new av)

 

[Neo Mike]

Good.

"bowling for columbine" was one of the most manipulated, staged, altered and just plain INCORRECT 'documentaries' of all time

I couldn't have said it better!

 

[FormlessOne]

Oh man, I thought this was about that new Mandy Moore movie "Saved". My gf woulda been pissed.

phew

 

[rarehero]

Calling canadian bacon funny.. is an affront to all comedy, worldwide.

I've laughed more at cancer patients.

actually I watched again it not to long ago.
think the best part was the cop making them vandalize their truck in french too
for the 'soup eaters'
personally I don't think it was the greatest, but any film about an attack on canada's gotta be good.

 

[Phoenix Down]

Last time I checked, Disney was not a government entity, and has no obligation to distribute any film they don't want to. It's a free market, so Michael Moore can take it to another company. Saying that Disney is "forbidding" distribution makes it sound like they have the final say over all distributors.

Ding Ding! We have a winner!

 

[jethrek]

So what's the big deal? Somebody else who wants to make a quick buck'll pick it up, and Disney making a stupid business decision is nothing new with Michael Eisner in charge.

 

[rarehero]

So what's the big deal? Somebody else who wants to make a quick buck'll pick it up, and Disney making a stupid business decision is nothing new with Michael Eisner in charge.

actually it's a better idea from him to not rock the boat.
from how disney has been in the news with a failed comcast purchase,
I would think eisner is very much in the hotseat.

 

[aria]

Calling canadian bacon funny.. is an affront to all comedy, worldwide.

I've laughed more at cancer patients.

Okay, now you've crossed a line with me.

That movie was brilliant, not perfect, but 3 1/2 stars all the way. The phone call parody was for the ages.

 

[aria]

Part of the reason Mr. Moore is causing a row over this is because it falls into a point he's been trying to make: Corps are manipulating what you see.

While I don't think its on the same level as the whole bru-hah-hah with Nightline, I still think there's something interesting in that this Corp, having raised the ire of the Conservative wing by releasing "Bowling" is all of a sudden hesitating to release this new film. Disney, as we all know, hesitates to piss off anybody (which is part of what lead to "Dogma" being released by an independent company).

Disney is like 90s-era Nintendo in that regard.

 

[Tacitus]

Okay, now you've crossed a line with me.

That movie was brilliant, not perfect, but 3 1/2 stars all the way. The phone call parody was for the ages.

The truck was funny, as wasthe call. Nothing was more than a giggle and there were FEW at that.

I can count on my hand how many times the movie was funny with fingers to spare.

The Pentagon Wars was a far funnier movie that did the same thing. Compare the two... not even the same league... same thing with Dr. Strangelove.

 

[jethrek]

actually it's a better idea from him to not rock the boat.
from how disney has been in the news with a failed comcast purchase,
I would think eisner is very much in the hotseat.

Disney board overturnes 401K meeting's "no confidence" vote in CEO Michael Eisner and new Chairman of the Board George Mitchell

Honestly, the board is so stacked they don't give a damn what the shareholders think. Disney'll go down in flames before they actually unseat Eisner and Mitchell.

The Comcast bid itself could be looked on as more of an insult than a joke. Eisner's decision was correct int hat he should give the Comcast bid a straight up thumbs-down, but the low amount Comcast offered for Disney is also a sign of just how mismanaged the animation giant is.

 

[Tacitus]

Part of the reason Mr. Moore is causing a row over this is because it falls into a point he's been trying to make: Corps are manipulating what you see.

While I don't think its on the same level as the whole bru-hah-hah with Nightline, I still think there's something interesting in that this Corp, having raised the ire of the Conservative wing by releasing "Bowling" is all of a sudden hesitating to release this new film. Disney, as we all know, hesitates to piss off anybody (which is part of what lead to "Dogma" being released by an independent company).

Disney is like 90s-era Nintendo in that regard.

True.

There's not much to argue about that, but fuck.. it comes with living in a "capitalist" society.