Can we be old and grumpy and live in 1999 Forever?

greedostick

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Is this possible? It doesn't seem to be maintained very well.

Could I also add that there should be columns for regular price, and forum.prices.
 
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It's a lot like with SSZS on the MVS -- the price guide is accurate, people are just retarded.
 

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Why are you so obsessed with prices lately?

What leads you to believe I'm obsessed with prices "lately"?

I just think it should be maintained at least once every few months instead of next to never.

Anyway, I'm just trying to help contribute in some way. I don't have to do it, just offering.
 

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It's an honorable idea, but here's what I think would happen: Half of the people are going to tell you the prices are too high, and the other half are going to tell you they are too low. But let's say all of these people are wrong and you manage to make an accurate list despite little data; it's going to be immediately obsolete. The people wanting and affording uncommon expensive games are willing to pay more than what the last guy paid, no matter the final cost. At least, that's how I see things.
 

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how much for metal slug? no label hockey puck variety.
 

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It's an honorable idea, but here's what I think would happen: Half of the people are going to tell you the prices are too high, and the other half are going to tell you they are too low. But let's say all of these people are wrong and you manage to make an accurate list despite little data; it's going to be immediately obsolete. The people wanting and affording uncommon expensive games are willing to pay more than what the last guy paid, no matter the final cost. At least, that's how I see things.

I see what you're saying, the data is getting hard to find. I think loose mvs and complete AES would be all that's needed. There are prices for most games recently though, if you dig deep enough through video game price charting.

I understand it can't be exact, but the way it is now it's completely useless.

I would basically take the average of all ended auctions, in average shape, and subtract 10% for a forum price.

If we're not going to maintain it, it might as well be removed.
 

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If we're not going to maintain it, it might as well be removed.

NOOO
.its better how it is. negeokult messes with theirs. pricing here, if its high?!!! otherwise its what you'll pay? patience and friends..the way it is if a noob researched it maybe they'd try to spend less and cause less inflation? Tell me the quote now?
 

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Make your own price guide, dude :) The one on here should be left for posterity as a reminder of what once was.
 

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I figured this would be an issue,

Only on neo-geo can a task as simple as upgrading the very out of date price guide be shunned upon, and argued.

It should be kept current. Take a screenshot of the old one. Believe it or not some people might actually be clueless enough to price stuff the way it is, so flippers can buy all their stuff and eBay it.

Why is not updating the price guide even a consideration? Its completely 100% stupid the home of the Neo Geo has a out of date price guide because people refuse to accept the fact that prices are rising. Or because of the small chance opportunity they might rip a unsuspecting seller off.

We could archive the old price guides, or make a chart one with increase and decrease per year so people could see the rise or fall in value.
 

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I figured this would be an issue,

Only on neo-geo can a task as simple as upgrading the very out of date price guide be shunned upon, and argued.

It should be kept current. Take a screenshot of the old one. Believe it or not some people might actually be clueless enough to price stuff the way it is, so flippers can buy all their stuff and eBay it.

Why is not updating the price guide even a consideration? Its completely 100% stupid the home of the Neo Geo has a out of date price guide because people refuse to accept the fact that prices are rising. Or because of the small chance opportunity they might rip a unsuspecting seller off.

We could archive the old price guides, or make a chart one with increase and decrease per year so people could see the rise or fall in value.


You had a "Real Bout 2 Special" for sale not that long ago.
 

greedostick

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You had a "Real Bout 2 Special" for sale not that long ago.

I've never sold a real bout special that I remember. Maybe I'm missing something here.

Oh, I think I remember something about this. What does that have to do with the price guide?
 
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I've never sold a real bout special that I remember. Maybe I'm missing something here.

You're still missing something.

I said, "real bout 2 special". That's not a real game.

I pointed that out in your original thread by going "OMG RBS2!? You'll get mad money for this?!"

and you didn't get the sarcastic cues despite responding to my posts.

EDIT: I'll tell you what it has to do with the price guide. How can you follow the market closely enough to make an accurate guide if you can't discern between RBS and RB2?
 
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I'm happy to contribute to this cause. My copy of Magical Drop 3 is worth $90

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even though I only paid $50.50 two weeks ago.
 

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RBFF2S notwithstanding, an updated price guide will be a meaningless gesture at this point. Prices are all over the place for the high dollar games. You can't possibly put an accurate value on something that only sells a handful of times a year, if that. How do you know the eBay sale wasn't shill bidded or even completed? Only confirmed forum sales between trusted parties could be used and there simply isn't the volume to get values for anything except commons.
 

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I think it's a good idea. The problem is that people need to trust your pricing. The best way would be to go ahead and make a price guide. Hell add it to your first post here. If you keep it up to date and you have honest and true prices people will eventually use it. Even grudgingly. Don't worry about it taking over the old spot on the website. You'll just have to earn it.

Go ahead and put on some armor, mech suit or whatever cus everyone and their brother is going to tell you they paid _____ and why the hell do you have it listed ___?! Are you nutz. Are you blind. It's only worth ___. F your guide. Blah, blah, blah..... If you can do it all by the numbers (Excel, whatever) it becomes a lot harder for people to argue with you. Not that they'll stop, just they're arguing opinions. While you'll have the unpopular facts.

*** 2 cents left. Now getting the F out of this thread ***
 

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Hey greedo, what's my VG+ condition Pulstar full MVS kit with matching serials worth these days?

Forum price and Jewbay price?
 

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I think the market here does a pretty good job of regulating itself, regardless of an outdated price guide. The 2 carts I put up moved quickly because I went below what I found to be market price based on my research of past sales. Wyo brings up a good point, there is fluctuation with teh rarez so it's hard to say what a reasonable price may be, especially if you have a handful of people who've been waiting 6 months for a certain title to show up. One could price a cart higher and it'll move, put up that same cart at the same price when nobody is looking/has the spare cash, a seller may not get as much.
 

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You're still missing something.

I said, "real bout 2 special". That's not a real game.

I pointed that out in your original thread by going "OMG RBS2!?

I have real bout special and real bout 2, I understand what you meant here, but yeah before I didn't notice at first. Still not related to the price guide though.

RBFF2S notwithstanding, an updated price guide will be a meaningless gesture at this point. Prices are all over the place for the high dollar games. You can't possibly put an accurate value on something that only sells a handful of times a year, if that. How do you know the eBay sale wasn't shill bidded or even completed? Only confirmed forum sales between trusted parties could be used and there simply isn't the volume to get values for anything except commons.

I actually think I could put a price on a game that was only sold one or two times a year. The game would be worth the price -10%. I'm also not 100% shill bidding would even matter. Even if it was shilled someone still paid that price. If the shill bidder actually won, then the price would either be

1. way higher and not taken into account.

Or

2. About the same as all the others.

Obviously if a blazing star sells one day for $7000.00, and a week later for $4500.00, then the lower price would be chosen in case it was shill bid. I could easily put a price on something like Magical Chase with manual, which is only sold a few times a year. It would be 4k -10% --- or $3600.00. Would be the same for neo geo games. I would also price most of my stuff based on sellers in the USA and Japan, and the UK. Not France or Spain, unless there was no other solid information to go by.

I also would go by mainly ended auctions with bids, instead of buy it now, unless there is very consistent buy it now information with many sales about the same.

Hey greedo, what's my VG+ condition Pulstar full MVS kit with matching serials worth these days?

Forum price and Jewbay price?

As stated earlier I wouldn't mess with kit prices. Unless very common easily found kits.

I think the market here does a pretty good job of regulating itself, regardless of an outdated price guide. The 2 carts I put up moved quickly because I went below what I found to be market price based on my research of past sales. Wyo brings up a good point, there is fluctuation with teh rarez so it's hard to say what a reasonable price may be, especially if you have a handful of people who've been waiting 6 months for a certain title to show up. One could price a cart higher and it'll move, put up that same cart at the same price when nobody is looking/has the spare cash, a seller may not get as much.

The ultimate goal of the price guide would not to be 100% accurate, just more accurate than it is now, and actually updated more than once every few years. We could easily post a new thread, or keep it in the what's it worth thread, for members to notify me if games are rising fast, or declining.
 
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I agree with lions, post up a current price guide here and maintain it, i'd be interested in checking it out...
 

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I like the old price guide, gives me hope.
 

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Why have a price guide? Why not have a star rating or 1-10 rating guide based on expense, not quality or rarity? Then the guide would only have to be updated for individual games that have appreciated faster than the others. If the general trend is up for the whole collection of neo stuff it wouldn't matter. A five star game would always be five stars, and the buyer and seller would just have to be aware of the general market values. If you put a dollar amount on it, then it would have to be updated constantly, then people would get pissed again if the guide caretaker wasn't keeping up.

Just as an example, let's say the general thought was on a five star scale, each star was 50$. For loose cart mvs, Twinkle Star Sprites is five stars. 250$. If after 5 years each star is considered 100$, then it's 500$. Again, this is just an example, and maybe not the best one.

At least with this type of scale people would know what range to be in, add long as there was some kind of understanding on the high and low extremes of the scale.

This type of scale would be a tremendous help when it comes to trading
 
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